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Apr 20, 2012 09:07:19   #
GordonB. Loc: St. Petersburg, Fl.
 
I was looking at the photography mags after I had finished grocery shopping yesterday and one of the main mags
had a large article on mirrorless cameras; it was a review
of the new Olympus.
Would some of the pros here who are never without an
intelligent answer please explain the pros and cons of
this subject. I would have bought the mag if I didn't have to get back into those darn understaffed check-out lines.
Still, I think I can get better info from some of the guys here than in that article.

Many thanks,
Gordon

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Apr 20, 2012 09:21:11   #
MT Shooter Loc: Montana
 
A camera with a mirrorless viewfinder simply uses a small LCD screen to show you what your lens sees.

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Apr 20, 2012 12:40:11   #
GordonB. Loc: St. Petersburg, Fl.
 
MT Shooter wrote:
A camera with a mirrorless viewfinder simply uses a small LCD screen to show you what your lens sees.


Thanks so much for the reply. I appreciate it. I thought it was something much more complicated than that. lol

Gordon

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Apr 20, 2012 12:46:06   #
bhfranklin Loc: Boston Area / Cape Cod
 
GordonB. wrote:
I was looking at the photography mags after I had finished grocery shopping yesterday and one of the main mags
had a large article on mirrorless cameras; it was a review
of the new Olympus.
Would some of the pros here who are never without an
intelligent answer please explain the pros and cons of
this subject. I would have bought the mag if I didn't have to get back into those darn understaffed check-out lines.
Still, I think I can get better info from some of the guys here than in that article.

Here is what Sony Claims: "Sony’s first-ever digital cameras to employ Translucent Mirror Technology showcase an innovative optical system that opens up dramatic new shooting possibilities. In contrast with conventional DSLR cameras, Translucent Mirror Technology uses a fixed, translucent mirror that ‘splits’ the optical pathway between the main image sensor and a separate phase-detection autofocus sensor.

High-resolution live image preview with rapid, accurate phase detection autofocus is thus available at all times – either via the angle-adjustable 7.5cm (3”) LCD or precision Tru-Finder (electronic viewfinder). This also ensures that even moving objects stay in sharp focus at all times, whether you’re shooting Full HD video or stills.

Translucent Mirror Technology overcomes other traditional limitations of DSLR models, with its simplified mechanical design shrinking camera size and complexity. This makes the α55 and α33 a compelling choice for casual photographers who want to capture spontaneous family moments and travel scenes with less to carry."



the Sony Aplha's 55,65,77 etc all have a transparent mirror which lets light thru without having to flip up the miror ...is that what you are referring to?

Many thanks,
Gordon
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Apr 21, 2012 06:07:56   #
charlie Loc: Minneapolis, Minnesota
 
bhfranklin wrote:
GordonB. wrote:
I was looking at the photography mags after I had finished grocery shopping yesterday and one of the main mags
had a large article on mirrorless cameras; it was a review
of the new Olympus.
Would some of the pros here who are never without an
intelligent answer please explain the pros and cons of
this subject. I would have bought the mag if I didn't have to get back into those darn understaffed check-out lines.
Still, I think I can get better info from some of the guys here than in that article.

Here is what Sony Claims: "Sony’s first-ever digital cameras to employ Translucent Mirror Technology showcase an innovative optical system that opens up dramatic new shooting possibilities. In contrast with conventional DSLR cameras, Translucent Mirror Technology uses a fixed, translucent mirror that ‘splits’ the optical pathway between the main image sensor and a separate phase-detection autofocus sensor.

High-resolution live image preview with rapid, accurate phase detection autofocus is thus available at all times – either via the angle-adjustable 7.5cm (3”) LCD or precision Tru-Finder (electronic viewfinder). This also ensures that even moving objects stay in sharp focus at all times, whether you’re shooting Full HD video or stills.

Translucent Mirror Technology overcomes other traditional limitations of DSLR models, with its simplified mechanical design shrinking camera size and complexity. This makes the α55 and α33 a compelling choice for casual photographers who want to capture spontaneous family moments and travel scenes with less to carry."



the Sony Aplha's 55,65,77 etc all have a transparent mirror which lets light thru without having to flip up the miror ...is that what you are referring to?

Many thanks,
Gordon
I was looking at the photography mags after I had ... (show quote)
quote=GordonB. I was looking at the photography m... (show quote)


I recently received an a55. Should I go with the SAL lenses or lean toward my Maxxum AF lenses?

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Apr 21, 2012 07:50:50   #
Wanda Krack Loc: Tennessee, USA
 
I have read and heard that the mirror-less cameras will be the next wave of the future as far as cameras go. They make sense to me.

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Apr 21, 2012 08:50:16   #
bhfranklin Loc: Boston Area / Cape Cod
 
charlie wrote:
bhfranklin wrote:
GordonB. wrote:
I was looking at the photography mags after I had finished grocery shopping yesterday and one of the main mags
had a large article on mirrorless cameras; it was a review
of the new Olympus.
Would some of the pros here who are never without an
intelligent answer please explain the pros and cons of
this subject. I would have bought the mag if I didn't have to get back into those darn understaffed check-out lines.
Still, I think I can get better info from some of the guys here than in that article.

Here is what Sony Claims: "Sony’s first-ever digital cameras to employ Translucent Mirror Technology showcase an innovative optical system that opens up dramatic new shooting possibilities. In contrast with conventional DSLR cameras, Translucent Mirror Technology uses a fixed, translucent mirror that ‘splits’ the optical pathway between the main image sensor and a separate phase-detection autofocus sensor.

High-resolution live image preview with rapid, accurate phase detection autofocus is thus available at all times – either via the angle-adjustable 7.5cm (3”) LCD or precision Tru-Finder (electronic viewfinder). This also ensures that even moving objects stay in sharp focus at all times, whether you’re shooting Full HD video or stills.

Translucent Mirror Technology overcomes other traditional limitations of DSLR models, with its simplified mechanical design shrinking camera size and complexity. This makes the α55 and α33 a compelling choice for casual photographers who want to capture spontaneous family moments and travel scenes with less to carry."



the Sony Aplha's 55,65,77 etc all have a transparent mirror which lets light thru without having to flip up the miror ...is that what you are referring to?

Many thanks,
Gordon
I was looking at the photography mags after I had ... (show quote)
quote=GordonB. I was looking at the photography m... (show quote)


I recently received an a55. Should I go with the SAL lenses or lean toward my Maxxum AF lenses?
quote=bhfranklin quote=GordonB. I was looking at... (show quote)


I have both sony and maxxum /minolta and tamron lenses. All seem to work fine for me and I like the pricing of the used Maxxums and Tamron BUT I'm new to the DSLR world and may not be the best judge yet!

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Apr 21, 2012 08:55:30   #
sbesaw Loc: Boston
 
GordonB. wrote:
I was looking at the photography mags after I had finished grocery shopping yesterday and one of the main mags
had a large article on mirrorless cameras; it was a review
of the new Olympus.
Would some of the pros here who are never without an
intelligent answer please explain the pros and cons of
this subject. I would have bought the mag if I didn't have to get back into those darn understaffed check-out lines.
Still, I think I can get better info from some of the guys here than in that article.

Many thanks,
Gordon
I was looking at the photography mags after I had ... (show quote)


If you are really interested read this article for some perspective. There are many who believe that the DSLR may be going the way of BetaMax and HDDVD. I had posted this link here in General Photography but the admin moved it to "Links and resources" so I am still learning where things go but since you asked about it here, this article by Trey Ratcliff is pretty compelling:

http://www.stuckincustoms.com/2012/01/04/dslrs-are-a-dying-breed-3rd-gen-cameras-are-the-future/?awt_l=FucPY&awt_m=K46rXbko6oHlCW

I found the above article by Trey Ratcliff pretty thought provoking. I have my own thoughts shooting both Nikon FX Bodies with Nikon Glass as well as the Olympus OM-D E-M5 micro 4:3 mirrorless camera. The quality of the Olympus even at 100% crop at higher ISO is pretty remarkable and this is still new technology. Thoughts????
This is going to ruffle a lot of DSLR feathers while some will give it the serious look it deserves.

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Apr 21, 2012 09:10:19   #
Roger Hicks Loc: Aquitaine
 
Wanda Krack wrote:
I have read and heard that the mirror-less cameras will be the next wave of the future as far as cameras go. They make sense to me.


When they get the finders right, quite possibly. But even the best electronic finders at the moment are blurry and jerky compared with optical finders. They're getting better but they ain't quite there yet.

Cheers,

R.

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Apr 21, 2012 10:09:50   #
sbesaw Loc: Boston
 
Roger Hicks wrote:
Wanda Krack wrote:
I have read and heard that the mirror-less cameras will be the next wave of the future as far as cameras go. They make sense to me.


When they get the finders right, quite possibly. But even the best electronic finders at the moment are blurry and jerky compared with optical finders. They're getting better but they ain't quite there yet.

Cheers,

R.


I respect your opinion but have you looked through the EVF on the new Olyumpus OM-D E- M5? It is exceptionally clear and sharp and they will only get better. I don't find it blurry and it is not at all jerky. Perhaps not quite as good as my D3s but pretty close and thie picture quality is amazing. Not suggesting it's dump your DSLR time but I find myself grabbing the M5 more and more.

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Apr 21, 2012 11:40:25   #
GH2man Loc: Portland Oregon
 
This was a very interesting article. I haven't seen many 4/3 cameras being used here on UHH, but I have been very pleased with mine. Maybe I will be on the ground floor of the third generation cameras. Looks like what ever happens we will all be forced to upgrade cameras (like computers).
sbesaw wrote:
GordonB. wrote:
I was looking at the photography mags after I had finished grocery shopping yesterday and one of the main mags
had a large article on mirrorless cameras; it was a review
of the new Olympus.
Would some of the pros here who are never without an
intelligent answer please explain the pros and cons of
this subject. I would have bought the mag if I didn't have to get back into those darn understaffed check-out lines.
Still, I think I can get better info from some of the guys here than in that article.

Many thanks,
Gordon
I was looking at the photography mags after I had ... (show quote)


If you are really interested read this article for some perspective. There are many who believe that the DSLR may be going the way of BetaMax and HDDVD. I had posted this link here in General Photography but the admin moved it to "Links and resources" so I am still learning where things go but since you asked about it here, this article by Trey Ratcliff is pretty compelling:

http://www.stuckincustoms.com/2012/01/04/dslrs-are-a-dying-breed-3rd-gen-cameras-are-the-future/?awt_l=FucPY&awt_m=K46rXbko6oHlCW

I found the above article by Trey Ratcliff pretty thought provoking. I have my own thoughts shooting both Nikon FX Bodies with Nikon Glass as well as the Olympus OM-D E-M5 micro 4:3 mirrorless camera. The quality of the Olympus even at 100% crop at higher ISO is pretty remarkable and this is still new technology. Thoughts????
This is going to ruffle a lot of DSLR feathers while some will give it the serious look it deserves.
quote=GordonB. I was looking at the photography m... (show quote)

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Apr 21, 2012 11:48:14   #
tainkc Loc: Kansas City
 
Roger Hicks wrote:
Wanda Krack wrote:
I have read and heard that the mirror-less cameras will be the next wave of the future as far as cameras go. They make sense to me.


When they get the finders right, quite possibly. But even the best electronic finders at the moment are blurry and jerky compared with optical finders. They're getting better but they ain't quite there yet.

Cheers,

R.
It is kind of funny; when I started to get serious in digital photography, I started with a 10mp Fuji bridge camera which has an EVF. I had no problem getting used to it. Then, when I upgraded, I bought a Sony dslr with an optical viewfinder. At this time, Sony was introducing their new SLT and they use an EVF for obvious reasons. Since then, I upgraded once more and I had a decision to make. They had one new model left that had an optical viewfinder and I decided to stay with that. Since then(which was not all that long ago) Sony dropped my model and now all they are producing are SLT's with electronic viewfinders. I guess it is part of the natural evolution of digital cameras. Just like with computers, we aint seen nuthin' yet! It is going to be interesting. I personally have not noticed any blur or jerkiness, just a bit of high contrast with the EVF. This seems to be the major complaint so far. Those whom are complaining are saying however, that this has not been a big detraction.

Tom

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Apr 21, 2012 12:50:01   #
Roger Hicks Loc: Aquitaine
 
sbesaw wrote:
. . . Perhaps not quite as good as my D3s but pretty close . . .


That's all I mean. Another year or five...

Cheers,

R.

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Apr 21, 2012 15:52:35   #
planepics Loc: St. Louis burbs, but originally Chicago burbs
 
Fascinating video/article. Almost make me think I wasted $600 on Black Friday 2010 on my first digital camera kit (Sony A330). I've been happy with it though, but it would sure be nice to get one of those newfangled contraptions. Someday.

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Apr 21, 2012 15:58:27   #
RiverNan Loc: Eastern Pa
 
I have been waiting for this camera that was supposed to be available april 1 2012.
Its release has been postponed.
I just want to hold it and feel it and try a few snaps with it....
WHERE IS IT?



sbesaw wrote:
GordonB. wrote:
I was looking at the photography mags after I had finished grocery shopping yesterday and one of the main mags
had a large article on mirrorless cameras; it was a review
of the new Olympus.
Would some of the pros here who are never without an
intelligent answer please explain the pros and cons of
this subject. I would have bought the mag if I didn't have to get back into those darn understaffed check-out lines.
Still, I think I can get better info from some of the guys here than in that article.

Many thanks,
Gordon
I was looking at the photography mags after I had ... (show quote)


If you are really interested read this article for some perspective. There are many who believe that the DSLR may be going the way of BetaMax and HDDVD. I had posted this link here in General Photography but the admin moved it to "Links and resources" so I am still learning where things go but since you asked about it here, this article by Trey Ratcliff is pretty compelling:

http://www.stuckincustoms.com/2012/01/04/dslrs-are-a-dying-breed-3rd-gen-cameras-are-the-future/?awt_l=FucPY&awt_m=K46rXbko6oHlCW

I found the above article by Trey Ratcliff pretty thought provoking. I have my own thoughts shooting both Nikon FX Bodies with Nikon Glass as well as the Olympus OM-D E-M5 micro 4:3 mirrorless camera. The quality of the Olympus even at 100% crop at higher ISO is pretty remarkable and this is still new technology. Thoughts????
This is going to ruffle a lot of DSLR feathers while some will give it the serious look it deserves.
quote=GordonB. I was looking at the photography m... (show quote)

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