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I used to work at the Country Club and after work I would go out on a golf car to see what I could get! This was in July on a windless afternoon. Used a Hoya R72 Filter.
steve40
Loc: Asheville/Canton, NC, USA
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Okay,okay look I'm very ADD, that's more then I want to read. Just tell me what your doing to get the look.
I want it now!
Ok, first your camera must accept filters. Second you need to do an IR test, to see if the camera is compatible.
Set your camera on something like F2.8, or whaterer your widest aperture is. Point a Tv remote at the lens, no more than a foot away. Look in the LCD display if you see the IR light, and it is pretty bright your camera is a good candidate. If it is dim, you can still take IR images but with very long exposures. If you can't see it at all, don't even waste your time or money.
If everything checks out OK, you need an IR filter like a Hoya R72 sometimes called a RM72. Mine was $89.95 from B&H. If you went this far inquire back for other particulars, for after you take the shot.
littlebiddle wrote:
I used to work at the Country Club and after work I would go out on a golf car to see what I could get! This was in July on a windless afternoon. Used a Hoya R72 Filter.
Little,
That is a very nice shot and well exposed, love the reflection; too bad the top of the tree on the far left got clipped just a touch.
What camera did you use? Were you able to handhold or did you have to use a tripod? Have you continued shooting IR or was that just a lark?
Just wondering,
Eric
steve40 wrote:
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Okay,okay look I'm very ADD, that's more then I want to read. Just tell me what your doing to get the look.
I want it now!
Ok, first your camera must accept filters. Second you need to do an IR test, to see if the camera is compatible.
Set your camera on something like F2.8, or whaterer your widest aperture is. Point a Tv remote at the lens, no more than a foot away. Look in the LCD display if you see the IR light, and it is pretty bright your camera is a good candidate. If it is dim, you can still take IR images but with very long exposures. If you can't see it at all, don't even waste your time or money.
If everything checks out OK, you need an IR filter like a Hoya R72 sometimes called a RM72. Mine was $89.95 from B&H. If you went this far inquire back for other particulars, for after you take the shot.
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Thanks I have a Canon D60 I think it will do all that. But the filter thing, I need a red one?
steve40
Loc: Asheville/Canton, NC, USA
Not just a red one; an IR one. The Hoya R72 or sometimes RM72, is the most popular. Buy it in the filter thread size, for the lens you plan on using. If you use the canon standard kit 18-55mm, it will take a 58mm thread filter.
These things are pretty expensive as a piece of glass goes, mine was 89.95 from B&H. You might shop around and find a little better price, but I don't recommend one of the no-name or cheap brand filters.
You also need PhotoShop, or Elements to convert the cameras output. The Gimp might work, I really don't know about that. If you have elements you will need the color channel mixer plugin, I posted a link to earlier.
All this sounds a lot more complicated than it really is, so don't let it scare you. :)
EricLPT wrote:
littlebiddle wrote:
I used to work at the Country Club and after work I would go out on a golf car to see what I could get! This was in July on a windless afternoon. Used a Hoya R72 Filter.
Little,
That is a very nice shot and well exposed, love the reflection; too bad the top of the tree on the far left got clipped just a touch.
What camera did you use? Were you able to handhold or did you have to use a tripod? Have you continued shooting IR or was that just a lark?
Just wondering,
Eric
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"Sony A100, 28-50mmF2.8, Hoya R72 Filter... ISO 100, F5.0,28MM, 13Sec. Manfroto tripod" I still use it but not as much as I should!
steve40 wrote:
Not just a red one; an IR one. The Hoya R72 or sometimes RM72, is the most popular. Buy it in the filter thread size, for the lens you plan on using. If you use the canon standard kit 18-55mm, it will take a 58mm thread filter.
These things are pretty expensive as a piece of glass goes, mine was 89.95 from B&H. You might shop around and find a little better price, but I don't recommend one of the no-name or cheap brand filters.
You also need PhotoShop, or Elements to convert the cameras output. The Gimp might work, I really don't know about that. If you have elements you will need the color channel mixer plugin, I posted a link to earlier.
All this sounds a lot more complicated than it really is, so don't let it scare you. :)
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I'm in the market for a new lens. I have a promaster 18=200mm a Tamron wide angle lens and a Tamron 70-300mm lens. I've got to give the promaster back to my mother so I looking for a new multi-purpose lens.
I realize lens are cheap, and neither am I, at least that's what my husband keep telling me.
I haved PSE for the past year and just got Lightroom and CS5 in August. Still learning them. Lightrooms easy, CS5 is not.
Can I do it without the special filter? Just with CS5, take a colored photo and play with the reds,blues and greens?
And no, I do not scared easily, just don't like to read Wikapedia? Have to do that to much with my kids. Seems like homework to me....and I hate homework, or Parent work.
steve40
Loc: Asheville/Canton, NC, USA
Ok, I posted that on another thread, so here it is again. You open the zip file and copy the 8BF plugin, open the Adobe files under programs X86 for windows 7, copy the 8BF to Adobe's plugins folder. Start up Elements, and you should find the plugin under the Filters tab.
http://www.simpelfilter.de/en/imaging/colormixer.html
Rachel wrote:
Thanks I have a Canon D60 I think it will do all that. But the filter thing, I need a red one?
Rachel,
The most common IR filter is the Hoya R72, buy one sized for your largest lens circumference and then step down rings to fit your other lenses, that way you only have to buy one filter. Most SLR's have a pretty strong 'hot mirror' (IR filter) to keep out IR as it makes visible light photos less sharp. This translates into long shutter speeds anywhere from 1-30 seconds, making a tripod a necessity. Some people have to compose the photos first, then screw on the filter, then play with shutter speed to get the correct exposure. On top of that some lenses have an IR 'hot spot', an area in the center of the lens that exposes more than the rest of the image. That's why I prefer a camera that is already IR sensitive so I can handhold my shots.
Eric
ps then after image capture you have to process the images to go from the reddish original, to B&W, and/or false color. I can do a B&W in a minute or so but false color takes a lot of time, 30 minutes to an hour per image, at least it does for me. I don't want to discourage you, but I don't want you to think it is as easy as visible light. I love IR and think it is worth the time and effort but again, I have an IR sensitive camera and can handhold my shots. Phew!
Original out of camera
A minute later, B&W
1/2 hour later, false color
steve40
Loc: Asheville/Canton, NC, USA
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I haved PSE for the past year and just got Lightroom and CS5 in August. Still learning them. Lightrooms easy, CS5 is not.
Ok both CS5, and (Lightroom I think) have a color channel mixer, so you are in good shape there.
You can do a pseudo IR in PhotoShop, but it does not look genuine to someone who knows the difference.
I used to do Pseudo's, but got the bug for the real deal. :)
EricLPT wrote:
Rachel wrote:
Thanks I have a Canon D60 I think it will do all that. But the filter thing, I need a red one?
Rachel,
The most common IR filter is the Hoya R72, buy one sized for your largest lens circumference and then step down rings to fit your other lenses, that way you only have to buy one filter. Most SLR's have a pretty strong 'hot mirror' (IR filter) to keep out IR as it makes visible light photos less sharp. This translates into long shutter speeds anywhere from 1-30 seconds, making a tripod a necessity. Some people have to compose the photos first, then screw on the filter, then play with shutter speed to get the correct exposure. On top of that some lenses have an IR 'hot spot', an area in the center of the lens that exposes more than the rest of the image. That's why I prefer a camera that is already IR sensitive so I can handhold my shots.
Eric
ps then after image capture you have to process the images to go from the reddish original, to B&W, and/or false color. I can do a B&W in a minute or so but false color takes a lot of time, 30 minutes to an hour per image, at least it does for me. I don't want to discourage you, but I don't want you to think it is as easy as visible light. I love IR and think it is worth the time and effort but again, I have an IR sensitive camera and can handhold my shots. Phew!
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thank you everyone, I really like this, I've just have to fiqure out which lens to buy first. don't want to get one that does not fit my new lens.
steve40 wrote:
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Okay,okay look I'm very ADD, that's more then I want to read. Just tell me what your doing to get the look.
I want it now!
Ok, first your camera must accept filters. Second you need to do an IR test, to see if the camera is compatible.
Set your camera on something like F2.8, or whaterer your widest aperture is. Point a Tv remote at the lens, no more than a foot away. Look in the LCD display if you see the IR light, and it is pretty bright your camera is a good candidate. If it is dim, you can still take IR images but with very long exposures. If you can't see it at all, don't even waste your time or money.
If everything checks out OK, you need an IR filter like a Hoya R72 sometimes called a RM72. Mine was $89.95 from B&H. If you went this far inquire back for other particulars, for after you take the shot.
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Aw man, I don't see anything with my remote, unless I'm doing it wrong, I have a Nikon D3100.
littlebiddle wrote:
"Sony A100, 28-50mmF2.8, Hoya R72 Filter... ISO 100, F5.0,28MM, 13Sec. Manfroto tripod" I still use it but not as much as I should!
Little, Thanks for the info. I'm not usually big on equipment lists and settings, but with IR it is (to me) much more critical to note shutter speed and equipment because some cameras are more IR sensitive than others and thus require less exposure time. 13 seconds seems about average for an unmodded SLR.
You should shoot IR more often, it can make you lose weight, look years younger, and just make you an all around better person*
Eric
*These claims have not been substantiated by the FDA and are only the opinion of Eric ;-).
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Aw man, I don't see anything with my remote, unless I'm doing it wrong, I have a Nikon D3100.[/quote]
I think the lose weight and look younger thig is a lost cause! But I could stand being a better person!
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