Does color vs.B&W influence cropping options?
Aug 4, 2015 10:19:33 #
i have received different recommnadions concerning these two versions of the same image file!
Your thoughts?
Dave
Your thoughts?
Dave
Aug 4, 2015 10:46:52 #
Aug 4, 2015 11:15:24 #
No hard and fast rules. Choice is strictly yours.
Aug 4, 2015 11:31:50 #
boberic wrote:
No hard and fast rules. Choice is strictly yours.
The reason these were posted is because i've received suggestions for cropping the color version which consistently differ from the suggestions for cropping the monochrome version. I'm curious how viewers here would react to the two versions from the point-of-view of possible cropping.
Dave
Aug 4, 2015 12:16:31 #
Just my .02 cents. Aside from sharpness (no problem with this image) or something that doesn't belong (again not a problem), the only opinion that should count is yours. What someone else thinks(they have that right) about cropping, composition, or any thing else, is much less important than what you think. It is after all your photo. If you wish fiddle around with various crops, you just might find some that you prefer.
Aug 4, 2015 12:30:25 #
boberic wrote:
Just my .02 cents. Aside from sharpness (no problem with this image) or something that doesn't belong (again not a problem), the only opinion that should count is yours. What someone else thinks(they have that right) about cropping, composition, or any thing else, is much less important than what you think. It is after all your photo. If you wish fiddle around with various crops, you just might find some that you prefer.
I guess my point in asking wasn't clear.
To some viewers, there is a difference between the cropping they would recommend depending upon whether it is the color or monochrome version being cropped. I am curious if our friends here, if they would crop at all, would crop these two versions differently.
Dave
Aug 4, 2015 13:04:17 #
Uuglypher wrote:
I guess my point in asking wasn't clear.
To some viewers, there is a difference between the cropping they would recommend depending upon whether it is the color or monochrome version being cropped. I am curious if our friends here, if they would crop at all, would crop these two versions differently.
Dave
To some viewers, there is a difference between the cropping they would recommend depending upon whether it is the color or monochrome version being cropped. I am curious if our friends here, if they would crop at all, would crop these two versions differently.
Dave
No cropping of either IMHO but the B&W one brings out the longing for a road trip in a '57 chevy. :)
Aug 4, 2015 13:12:17 #
debbie wrazen wrote:
No cropping of either IMHO but the B&W one brings out the longing for a road trip in a '57 chevy. :)
A BelAire?
Aug 4, 2015 13:34:44 #
Aug 4, 2015 15:35:36 #
The 2 versions sure have different "flavors" to them - I prefer the color version much better.
And since I am a huge fan of "big sky" photos, I think that advice to crop this one at all is a pile of crop. I'm pretty sure you are probably one of those shooters who frames very purposefully and consciously when clicking the shutter (the way you should!), and probably had really good reason to frame it as it is. I very rarely see a crop "improve" a well-composed shot - but have seen many unsuccessful attempts at cropping to fix a bad one! ;)
My rule of thumb is: A Crop tool is for changing the aspect ratio - unless you screwed up the shoot.
And since I am a huge fan of "big sky" photos, I think that advice to crop this one at all is a pile of crop. I'm pretty sure you are probably one of those shooters who frames very purposefully and consciously when clicking the shutter (the way you should!), and probably had really good reason to frame it as it is. I very rarely see a crop "improve" a well-composed shot - but have seen many unsuccessful attempts at cropping to fix a bad one! ;)
My rule of thumb is: A Crop tool is for changing the aspect ratio - unless you screwed up the shoot.
Aug 4, 2015 19:38:44 #
Dr.db wrote:
The 2 versions sure have different "flavors&q... (show quote)
Hi, Dr .db.
Thanks for. Looking and commenting. Bottom line is I like the composition as is. I've just been curious about the comments that one of these needs to be cropped. (No hints as to which one gets this comment)
Aaaactually...this is a seven-frame panorama..but that doesn't change the point of my question.
Dave
Aug 4, 2015 19:55:47 #
Not sure if my opinion is what you're after but I find the effect of each photo is different. The lower part - the road - seems to take on a different 'pesonality'.
The B&W seems to have more punch with the brightness of the cloud and the road seems to be perfectly in keeping with the scene. Adding to it, actually. So I feel it needs no cropping at all.
In the colour version the brightness of the road and the highly contrasting colour of it makes it almost equally the centre of attention and as such I feel I want to see a bit more of it. It seems that would be achieved by not cropping so much off the bottom, if that's what you did, deepening that part of the photo by about 50% - the opposite of cropping!
So the two seem to have different stories to tell.
My preference is the drama of the B&W as things stand.
But...
The B&W seems to have more punch with the brightness of the cloud and the road seems to be perfectly in keeping with the scene. Adding to it, actually. So I feel it needs no cropping at all.
In the colour version the brightness of the road and the highly contrasting colour of it makes it almost equally the centre of attention and as such I feel I want to see a bit more of it. It seems that would be achieved by not cropping so much off the bottom, if that's what you did, deepening that part of the photo by about 50% - the opposite of cropping!
So the two seem to have different stories to tell.
My preference is the drama of the B&W as things stand.
But...
Aug 4, 2015 20:18:25 #
Frank2013
Loc: San Antonio, TX. & Milwaukee, WI.
Uuglypher wrote:
i have received different recommnadions concerning these two versions of the same image file!
Your thoughts?
Dave
Your thoughts?
Dave
A triptych minus one Dave? Haha
I think there could be different crops for almost any B&W vs. Color as they appear different to us. What works for one may not for the other.
Aug 4, 2015 20:56:47 #
Well, I don't know about the two examples presented here, but there certainly are times when color or monochrome can influence a cropping decision. For example, if there is a distracting color field, or if there is lack of tonal separation of an area of the image when rendered monochrome.
Aug 4, 2015 21:22:07 #
Uuglypher wrote:
i have received different recommnadions concerning these two versions of the same image file!
Your thoughts?
Dave
Your thoughts?
Dave
Dave, in this particular case, I don't think the cropping makes a difference. The composition and interesting balance is presented in either equally.
The road entering the image from the border about 1/3 of the way from the right. It also enters the frame from the bottom.
The highest part of the cloud bank is about 1/3 of the way from the right. It extends to almost the top at that 1/3 line.
Another interesting compositional point is that the smaller portion of the cloud, just to the right of the farthest extent of the road, seems to use the road as a fulcrum to balance the larger cloud mentioned earlier, visually not physically.
These elements present themselves very well in both the colour and black and white versions.
--Bob
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