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Aug 3, 2015 22:07:28   #
Dan821 Loc: Traveling........
 
rmalarz wrote:
BTW, just to really throw a wrench into the works, film is digital, digital is analog.
--Bob


Geez!! :)
Don't confuse her!!

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Aug 3, 2015 22:15:50   #
SharpShooter Loc: NorCal
 
Nightski wrote:
I decided if I'm going to hang out on a forum that has so many people that "shot film", I should get with it and do some work in that area so I have some experience to draw from when looking at the film shots people have posted. I have shot up a roll and have had it developed. Now I have a few questions.

When I had my film developed I got a CD with the pictures and the negatives. Do you get more detail if you scan the negatives yourself? Is scanning the negatives like getting a RAW file on a digital?

Has anyone compared the light metering on their digital to the light metering on a SLR camera of the same brand? Is the way that the light metering works pretty much the same?

Is 35mm the same as full frame? Do you get bigger prints from a full frame camera, or does that depend on how many megapixels it is?

Do you get more out of your film if you develop it yourself?

I actually found a Walgreens that does the "wet" processing so I can get negatives. I was informed that all Walgreens are going "dry" though, and there will come a day where I can only get my pictures on a CD. Does anyone have a favorite online place to get their pics developed?

I have viewed my pictures on the CD, but I don't know how to scan my negatives yet. It seems like they get a little pixelated if i zoom way in ... is this because the files on the CD are small?

One more question My settings aren't listed in lightroom on my film pics ... how the heck am I suppose to remember what my settings were? I mean, I know I used 400 film, so thats' my ISO, but how do I know what my shutter speed and aperture were set at?
I decided if I'm going to hang out on a forum that... (show quote)


CD....... ??
Com'n Nightski, don't be a wimpy film shooter! Break out the enlarger and WET print those puppies. To post'em just take a photo of the photo. That's how real men and gals do it!!!
When you shoot film the next step is to go into a darkroom, NOT plop yourself down in front of a computer!!!
I'll bet Ansels bones are twithing. :lol: :lol: :lol:
SS

PS, bet you can't do it without looking at the back of the camera!!! :lol: :lol:

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Aug 3, 2015 22:29:45   #
Nightski
 
Michael Hartley wrote:
Don't know if it was mentioned in here, go to thedarkroom.com, to process the film, you can order the optional 'SuperScan', of the images. They are scanned at a higher resolution, than what comes standard on the disc.


Thank you, Michael. I will check it out. http://www.thedarkroom.com

I created a link for anyone that would like to check it out. ;-)

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Aug 3, 2015 22:33:20   #
Nightski
 
rook2c4 wrote:
Not entirely true about Walgreens. Some locations which process on-site will return negatives if requested by the customer on the drop-off form. All other branches send the film to the nearest branch that does process, but negatives will not be sent back to the customer. If you ask the clerk in charge, he/she will can inform you if they process on-site, or if not, to which branch they send the film for processing. With luck, the branch that processes is not too far.


Yes, I have my negatives from my first roll. The Walgreens in Fargo, ND still does the wet processing .. however the Walgreens in Moorhead across the river has eliminated their dark room and sends out for a CD only .. no negatives. But they did tell me that their scan of your negatives to do a CD is a lower resolution. They told me if I had a good scanner, I'd be better off doing it myself.

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Aug 3, 2015 22:34:12   #
Dan821 Loc: Traveling........
 
Nightski wrote:
Thanks for the great suggestion, Dan. I am really having a great bit of fun with this. :-)

I have noticed something special about the quality of the image I took with film. I have a feeling I am in for a real education.


I really enjoy the challenges of film. I shoot mostly B&W now.
As for developing your own film, you might check the classified/for sale section here on UHH. Some of the members are trying to get rid of their darkroom equipment. There might be a diamond in the rough for a newbie to learn about processing!
Just a thought.

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Aug 3, 2015 22:35:09   #
Nightski
 
SharpShooter wrote:
CD....... ??
Com'n Nightski, don't be a wimpy film shooter! Break out the enlarger and WET print those puppies. To post'em just take a photo of the photo. That's how real men and gals do it!!!
When you shoot film the next step is to go into a darkroom, NOT plop yourself down in front of a computer!!!
I'll bet Ansels bones are twithing. :lol: :lol: :lol:
SS

PS, bet you can't do it without looking at the back of the camera!!! :lol: :lol:


What the heck are you talking about, SS? What enlarger? Hey . I am a long way from being able to develop. I wonder how many rolls of film I will wreck doing that? And .. what do you mean looking at the back of the camera? This SLR is an old used model and there is no live view or any such thing on the back of the camera.

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Aug 4, 2015 02:31:30   #
SharpShooter Loc: NorCal
 
Nightski wrote:
This SLR is an old used model and there is no live view or any such thing on the back of the camera.


:lol: :lol:

SS

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Aug 4, 2015 03:14:55   #
BHC Loc: Strawberry Valley, JF, USA
 
SharpShooter wrote:
:lol: :lol:

SS

Depends...... Sometimes you get a real view (not an image) of the title line of your film cartridge. Sometimes there's a frame for a film box end, but you can stick a cutdown picture of a loved one, even a Mother-in-Law, in the slot - or you can write REALLY SMALL and leave a set of reminders in there. Sometimes there's a cute red window and, as you wind, you can see all sorts of weird symbols and numbers go past. And, if you're really careful, you can watch your rewind crank turn. On some really old cameras, you can actually watch the shutter speed reset itself. It's a grand and glorious adventure!

Then there are those heard rending decisions. Do I rewind when I shoot or wait until I'm ready to shoot again? I've only got two shots left on this roll and the next wave of geese may be the most spectacular; should I waste those two frames and reload now? Oh, good grief, the sun's right behind me; if I don't cover the eyepiece, will it affect my exposure of that beautiful shot? Oh, the angst of it all......

8-) 8-) 8-)

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Aug 4, 2015 03:48:49   #
corryhully Loc: liverpool uk
 
Great to see nightski. I moved back to film a number of years and find it so much more rewarding. Home deveoping is not difficult and the equipment can had for next to nothing on ebay (shush, dont tell anyone :). i develop a lot of my film b&w in coffee.

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Aug 4, 2015 05:21:03   #
selmslie Loc: Fernandina Beach, FL, USA
 
Nightski wrote:
When I had my film developed I got a CD with the pictures and the negatives. Do you get more detail if you scan the negatives yourself? Is scanning the negatives like getting a RAW file on a digital?
You can get better resolution yourself. The negative is the "raw file". The scan goes directly to JPG or preferably to TIFF. Hang on to the negative so if you ever get a better scanner you can always scan it again.

Nightski wrote:
Has anyone compared the light metering on their digital to the light metering on a SLR camera of the same brand? Is the way that the light metering works pretty much the same?
ItÂ’s the same.

Nightski wrote:
Is 35mm the same as full frame? Do you get bigger prints from a full frame camera, or does that depend on how many megapixels it is?
It depends on the resolution of your scan. I scan at 4000 PPI (about 21 MP) but a drum scan can go as high as 73 MP.

Nightski wrote:
Do you get more out of your film if you develop it yourself?
Yes for B&W which is easy to develop and few labs will bother. No for color which is harder to do and labs can control the process better.

Some labs will develop your film and return it without scanning or printing it for around $6 or $7 per roll. B&W film costs less than a dollar a roll to develop yourself and it takes about 20 minutes per roll.

Nightski wrote:
I have viewed my pictures on the CD, but I don't know how to scan my negatives yet. It seems like they get a little pixelated if i zoom way in ... is this because the files on the CD are small?
They were scanned to a very low resolution, possibly less than 2 MP.

Nightski wrote:
One more question My settings aren't listed in lightroom on my film pics ... how the heck am I suppose to remember what my settings were? I mean, I know I used 400 film, so thats' my ISO, but how do I know what my shutter speed and aperture were set at?
You have two choices: 1. Take notes; 2. Get a Nikon F6 (about $2450) and it will record your settings so you can see them later.

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Aug 4, 2015 05:27:08   #
selmslie Loc: Fernandina Beach, FL, USA
 
Rongnongno wrote:
What is the point of having a film camera if you digitize the pictures?

*puzzled*

If you have to ask then you are new to photography.

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Aug 4, 2015 05:30:17   #
selmslie Loc: Fernandina Beach, FL, USA
 
Darkroom317 wrote:
... Settings don't really matter much. I have been writing down settings when working with 4x5 and sometimes with 10 exposure 120 when working in the landscape. For 35mm shots I don't bother, too much to bother with that happens too quickly

Exactly! I don't normally care since I probably got the exposure right anyhow. When in doubt, I bracket.

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Aug 4, 2015 05:46:53   #
selmslie Loc: Fernandina Beach, FL, USA
 
Peterff wrote:
Y... Unless you want to stay with chemical processes from shot to print there is probably very little point in using film other than as an interesting intellectual exercise.

Not quite so.

While some might enjoy the wet printing process, it is hard work, extremely time consuming and requires a large dark room. To develop B&W film you only need a small dark space or changing bag to load a daylight film processing tank.

Scanning is more practical because you can then print more easily. An ink-jet print is virtually indistinguishable from a wet print unless you want to use some of the more exotic wet processes.

For B&W, you can get more control and resolution developing the film yourself. There are B&W films available that far exceed the resolution of any full frame digital as well as any lens made for full frame.

Digital is more practical and provides higher resolution only if you limit yourself to full frame 35 mm. Medium format digital is extremely expensive. Medium and large format film cameras are relatively inexpensive and can produce much larger prints.

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Aug 4, 2015 05:58:47   #
Peterff Loc: O'er The Hills and Far Away, in Themyscira.
 
selmslie wrote:
Not quite so.

While some might enjoy the wet printing process, it is hard work, extremely time consuming and requires a large dark room. To develop B&W film you only need a small dark space or changing bag to load a daylight film processing tank.

Scanning is more practical because you can then print more easily. An ink-jet print is virtually indistinguishable from a wet print unless you want to use some of the more exotic wet processes.

For B&W, you can get more control and resolution developing the film yourself. There are B&W films available that far exceed the resolution of any full frame digital as well as any lens made for full frame.

Digital is more practical and provides higher resolution only if you limit yourself to full frame 35 mm. Medium format digital is extremely expensive. Medium and large format film cameras are relatively inexpensive and can produce much larger prints.
Not quite so. br br While some might enjoy the ... (show quote)


Fair points, b&w film developing is very straight forward. It'll be interesting to hear from more film users and their thoughts....

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Aug 4, 2015 06:41:32   #
corryhully Loc: liverpool uk
 
Peterff wrote:
Fair points, b&w film developing is very straight forward. It'll be interesting to hear from more film users and their thoughts....


I am surprised there is not a film section on the hog.

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