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Jul 15, 2015 09:01:15   #
boberic Loc: Quiet Corner, Connecticut. Ex long Islander
 
Do photographers take or make photographs? Painters make or paint pictures. I know this is not a life changing topic, but I'm curious.

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Jul 15, 2015 09:05:17   #
jerryc41 Loc: Catskill Mts of NY
 
boberic wrote:
Do photographers take or make photographs? Painters make or paint pictures. I know this is not a life changing topic, but I'm curious.

First take (raw), then make. Both are very expensive operations. :D

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Jul 15, 2015 09:12:43   #
mariak Loc: Las Cruces, New Mexico USA
 
boberic wrote:
Do photographers take or make photographs? Painters make or paint pictures. I know this is not a life changing topic, but I'm curious.


I would think that depended on the photographer. Some are creative artists and some are recorders. The works of both are interesting.
mariak

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Jul 15, 2015 09:13:50   #
minniev Loc: MIssissippi
 
boberic wrote:
Do photographers take or make photographs? Painters make or paint pictures. I know this is not a life changing topic, but I'm curious.


Depends on who you listen to.

“You don’t take a photograph, you make it.” – Ansel Adams -

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Jul 15, 2015 09:23:26   #
Linda From Maine Loc: Yakima, Washington
 
minniev wrote:
Depends on who you listen to.

“You don’t take a photograph, you make it.” – Ansel Adams -


Ansel also said, "There is nothing worse than a sharp image of a fuzzy concept."

There is endless discussion about whether a photo should be "straight out of camera," or if it's OK to edit - and how much. I consider photography to be an art; therefore, I make a photograph. Even if I weren't doing any editing, I am making choices of what I want you to see, and how I hope you feel, by my selective composing.

To expand the pp vs sooc thought, UHH's Photographer Jim put it eloquently, "I come from the position that ultimately all that matters is the final image. If it meets the maker's creative and artistic needs, or if it stimulates a viewer emotionally, intellectually, or aesthetically, then the level of editing necessary to make the image becomes irrelevant. I don't believe this differs with subject matter (with the exceptions of forensic, or photo-journalistic photography which are obviously the domain of a different topic)."

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Jul 15, 2015 09:36:21   #
joer Loc: Colorado/Illinois
 
boberic wrote:
Do photographers take or make photographs? Painters make or paint pictures. I know this is not a life changing topic, but I'm curious.


I think everyone makes a photograph to some degree because they capture their vision at that moment in time. It may be reality or maybe not.

Some take it way beyond that and some every where in between.

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Jul 15, 2015 09:37:46   #
Marionsho Loc: Kansas
 
Linda From Maine wrote:
Ansel also said, "There is nothing worse than a sharp image of a fuzzy concept."

There is endless discussion about whether a photo should be "straight out of camera," or if it's OK to edit - and how much. I consider photography to be an art; therefore, I make a photograph. Even if I weren't doing any editing, I am making choices of what I want you to see, and how I hope you feel, by my selective composing.

To expand the pp vs sooc thought, UHH's Photographer Jim put it eloquently, "I come from the position that ultimately all that matters is the final image. If it meets the maker's creative and artistic needs, or if it stimulates a viewer emotionally, intellectually, or aesthetically, then the level of editing necessary to make the image becomes irrelevant. I don't believe this differs with subject matter (with the exceptions of forensic, or photo-journalistic photography which are obviously the domain of a different topic)."
Ansel also said, "There is nothing worse than... (show quote)


Thanks Linda. "Jim put it eloquently", just might be an understatement. :thumbup:
Marion

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Jul 15, 2015 09:42:15   #
Marionsho Loc: Kansas
 
minniev wrote:
Depends on who you listen to.

“You don’t take a photograph, you make it.” – Ansel Adams -


I try to make photographs, until I get tired, like I did recently at an outdoor sporting event, in 90+ % humidity. So I just sat on a rock and started 'taking' pictures. :lol: :lol: :lol:
Marion

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Jul 15, 2015 09:44:14   #
paulrph1 Loc: Washington, Utah
 
boberic wrote:
Do photographers take or make photographs? Painters make or paint pictures. I know this is not a life changing topic, but I'm curious.

A photographer records light. Some will then take that recording and change it to what they want.

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Jul 15, 2015 09:50:02   #
russelray Loc: La Mesa CA
 
boberic wrote:
Do photographers take or make photographs? Painters make or paint pictures. I know this is not a life changing topic, but I'm curious.

Over a century ago Edgar Degas (painter) said: "Art is not what you see but what you make others see."

Back in 1966 when my wise old grandmother was sitting at her dining room table cutting and pasting picture and picture parts here and there in her scrapbooks, she said, "What comes out of the camera is just the basics to start with."

I have taken both of those quotes to create my "Photographic Art" which produces about 75% of my monthly income. By the end of the year, I hope to be at 100%.

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Jul 15, 2015 09:51:16   #
Karl Shuffler Loc: Weinert, Texas
 
My camera is a product made with the combinations of other parts, made collectively equal camera. My camera therefore, is a product made. That product is designed to collect images by recording light by each click one takes,(by taking one's finger pressing on the shutter button). There's nothing made,but taken,(taking a camera to take photos). However, to make a photo,would to make a product. To view your images that were taken to be printed, now we have a product. That image,(photograph), was made from the result of taking something to make something else. With the combination of products made,(ink jet printer, ink, paper and computer; a product is made to be viewed by all who look apond that printed image; a photograph is made by that combination of mention products made by industrial manufacturer. That photograph was made by your camera in which you took that started the process. You shouldn't take for granted all the parts in your camera, but make a effort to do your best at taking great images to make great (printed) photograph you took with the camera of choice. Enjoy!

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Jul 15, 2015 09:55:19   #
boberic Loc: Quiet Corner, Connecticut. Ex long Islander
 
Marionsho wrote:
I try to make photographs, until I get tired, like I did recently at an outdoor sporting event, in 90+ % humidity. So I just sat on a rock and started 'taking' pictures. :lol: :lol: :lol:
Marion

OK, But you made the decision to push the shutter. Does it make a difference under which circumstance you were in at that time. The quality of the image is not really germane to the subject Even a rotten painting is painted by the artist. Ifyou took that painting you would be accused of theft. When I did all my own B&W work in my dark room I made my own prints. But I still said that I took the photo. I am still in a quandry

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Jul 15, 2015 10:13:01   #
wilsondl2 Loc: Lincoln, Nebraska
 
To me it's like do you go or do you leave? Let the photo speak for itself and don't worry about how you say it. - Dave

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Jul 15, 2015 11:01:25   #
boberic Loc: Quiet Corner, Connecticut. Ex long Islander
 
wilsondl2 wrote:
To me it's like do you go or do you leave? Let the photo speak for itself and don't worry about how you say it. - Dave


I guess it all comes down to language. we have a particularly confusing onel there are many oxymorons as well as opposite statements that mean the same thing. just a few- your house can burn down or burn up- rain can keep up or come down- When you shoot some one the gun went off-Etc etc

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Jul 15, 2015 11:45:54   #
MT Shooter Loc: Montana
 
boberic wrote:
Do photographers take or make photographs? Painters make or paint pictures. I know this is not a life changing topic, but I'm curious.


Simple. The photographer "takes" a photograph (intangible item), from which he "makes" a print (tangible item).

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