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Jul 13, 2015 18:32:26   #
DLH13 Loc: Texas
 
Hello Hogs,
I will be attempting taking pics of our dog club this coming weekend at an indoor venue. Any advise on settings to use without flash on a Canon 5diii with a rented 70-200ii lens? I have found a wide variety of settings online and thought that this lens would work best. There will be stills and action shots.
Thanks in advance,
Darryl
DLH13

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Jul 13, 2015 19:02:12   #
OddJobber Loc: Portland, OR
 
Sorry, Darryl, but "indoor venue" says very little.
It's near impossible to give advice on settings while knowing nothing about where you're shooting.

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Jul 13, 2015 19:21:30   #
DLH13 Loc: Texas
 
Thanks for the reply,
NRG center in Houston, formally Reliant center in Houston TX.
Very large exhibit hall
This is what is listed on their website NRGpark.com
(85-90 PC lighting composed of 3:1 clusters of metal halide & high sodium pressure)

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Jul 13, 2015 19:21:57   #
dirtpusher Loc: tulsa oklahoma
 
if it florescent lighting will have to set shutter at 1/60. to match the current in the fluorescent bulbs.

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Jul 13, 2015 19:49:05   #
Kmgw9v Loc: Miami, Florida
 
dirtpusher wrote:
if it florescent lighting will have to set shutter at 1/60. to match the current in the fluorescent bulbs.


Good point.

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Jul 13, 2015 20:21:25   #
Bill Houghton Loc: New York area
 
dirtpusher wrote:
if it florescent lighting will have to set shutter at 1/60. to match the current in the fluorescent bulbs.


Are you saying multiples of 60 won't work, 60, 120,180 ect.

On second thought it most like wouldn't. cutting the cycle into cycles.

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Jul 13, 2015 21:04:35   #
MarkD Loc: NYC
 
I'm not familiar with the location and its lighting. Your 5D is very good at high iso's. I'd set it to aperture priority, set the lens wide open, and raise the iso until you get a high enough shutter speed. I suggest no lower than 1/60s for dogs who are relatively stationary, and no lower than 1/125s or better still 1/250s for moving dogs. If you can't get 1/125 or 1/250 try panning with the moving dogs. I also suggest a wider lens for those shots of dogs that are near you.

Good luck. Let us know what you did and how it turned out.

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Jul 13, 2015 21:13:33   #
DLH13 Loc: Texas
 
Thanks, was also planning on using my main lens 24-70ii. Just not enough reach in the rings for some shots. Hopefully will have a few posts if not totally humiliated by my attemps. What about the lighting selection for fluorescent and tungsten or leave to auto?

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Jul 13, 2015 23:32:46   #
OddJobber Loc: Portland, OR
 
dirtpusher wrote:
if it florescent lighting will have to set shutter at 1/60. to match the current in the fluorescent bulbs.


If I understand Canons correctly (I shoot Nikon) the 5D's and 7D's have anti flicker technology which adjusts the shutter opening time to coincide to the brightest part of the flicker cycle, so shooting at 1/500 or 1/1000 should be OK.

The mix of metal halide and sodium vapor (and maybe some daylight if the auditorium has windows) calls for shooting in RAW with auto white balance or use of a gray card.

I almost always shoot in manual mode or you could do aperture priority with f stop set according to the distance you are from your subjects and the depth of field you want. I would set aperture, then shutter speed for the action, probably 1/250 or 1/500, and then set ISO to whatever it needs to be.

These of course are guesses and are all pretty much a crap shoot until you see what the actual light intensity will be. Good luck! :)

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Jul 13, 2015 23:56:20   #
OddJobber Loc: Portland, OR
 
Follow up on flicker. Default for anti flicker is off. You have to enable it. My source is: http://www.the-digital-picture.com/News/News-Post.aspx?News=13866

Sorry, Nikon shooters, Nikon has anti flicker but it works only in live view and video recording. :(

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Jul 14, 2015 00:00:24   #
dirtpusher Loc: tulsa oklahoma
 
Bill Houghton wrote:
Are you saying multiples of 60 won't work, 60, 120,180 ect.

On second thought it most like wouldn't. cutting the cycle into cycles.


yeah it just a 60 hrtz. only.

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Jul 14, 2015 00:03:39   #
dirtpusher Loc: tulsa oklahoma
 
OddJobber wrote:
If I understand Canons correctly (I shoot Nikon) the 5D's and 7D's have anti flicker technology which adjust the shutter opening time to coincide to the brightest part of the flicker cycle, so shooting at 1/500 or 1/1000 should be OK.

The mix of metal halide and sodium vapor (and maybe some daylight if the auditorium has windows) calls for shooting in RAW with auto white balance or use of a gray card.

I almost always shoot in manual mode or you could do aperture priority with f stop set according to the distance you are from your subjects and the depth of field you want. I would set aperture, then shutter speed for the action, probably 1/250 or 1/500, and then set ISO to whatever it needs to be.

These of course are guesses and are all pretty much a crap shoot until you see what the actual light intensity will be. Good luck! :)
If I understand Canons correctly (I shoot Nikon) t... (show quote)


my poor ole camera not that fancy.i shooting an airplane build under fluorescent. was having miserable time till i shot 1/60. got happy after that. :thumbup: :thumbup: :thumbup:

top it off the plane was a deep blue. :roll: :roll:

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Jul 14, 2015 01:56:24   #
mongoose777 Loc: Frisco Texas
 
Is this going to be inside the Stadium?
Ive shot there plenty of times and never made any
adjustments for special lighting.
The lighting is great, except they may only turn
on just a few lights. Your not gonna get any light
flicker over there.
Use a grey card or expo disc if your concerned
about color correction.
I would use 1/250 for candids or stills and 1/500 to 640 for action
or if they are jumping then you may have to kick it up to 1/800.
Don't sacrifice a higher ISO for higher shutter speed.

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Jul 14, 2015 02:20:39   #
rpavich Loc: West Virginia
 
DLH13 wrote:
Hello Hogs,
I will be attempting taking pics of our dog club this coming weekend at an indoor venue. Any advise on settings to use without flash on a Canon 5diii with a rented 70-200ii lens? I have found a wide variety of settings online and thought that this lens would work best. There will be stills and action shots.
Thanks in advance,
Darryl
DLH13


Your settings for this indoor event will not be any different from anything outdoors, or any other thing you shoot.

Your decisions will always be the same: how much light is there? Do I want to freeze the action or smear it? How much do I want to isolate the subjects or not?

Nobody can tell you what settings to use because none of us have been there. It might be bright as heck in that place, or dim as a night club...or something in between.

How do you set your camera for any other shooting situation?

What do you normally do?

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Jul 14, 2015 05:52:38   #
Don Fischer Loc: Antelope, Ore
 
I've been to a number of show's in the film days. There was always a photographer there and they always shot with a flash.

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