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Jul 2, 2015 11:29:27   #
fotoless
 
Geez, My attraction to the 900 ( which I have on backorder ) was/is it's advertised reach and secondarily, 16 versus my 12yr old 3mp pkt camera but wondering now, about the spotting scope analogies. Hmmm.....

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Jul 2, 2015 11:39:33   #
BobbyT Loc: Southern California
 
rdgreenwood wrote:
At the risk of bursting some bubbles, I want to add a post that sums up my final conclusions on the Nikon P900. Last week I went to Florida and left my Nikon D800E and Canon G-12 at home, committed to giving the P900 a thorough trial. I shot birds, landscapes, interiors, and people. Here is what I decided.

I hear what everyone is saying about the zoom capability of the P900, but what good is it as a practical matter? At full zoom 2000mm is nearly impossible to hand hold; hell, even 500mm is dicey when it's hand held.
Okay, so you use a tripod. At 2000mm tracking a large bird is extremely difficult if you're on a tripod. I know that some heads are easier to use than others, but when the smallest movement equates to the loss of target and focus it's no mean task to collect it all and recover the shot.

I hate to say it, but unless your photographic goal is to create videos of things that are far away and to feed off the "oooos" and "aahs" of others, put your $600 back in your pocket and count it as a down payment on a mirrorless camera. As a bridge camera the P900 can't keep up with my Canon G-12.

The P900 is a bold step on Nikon's part, but shooting soft images from 24 to 2000mm, frustrating the user as he desperately struggles to keep a subject in the frame as every small movement--ISO adjustment, focal length tweak, a small bit of side conversation--and the occasional lock-up make it a weak package.
So that's my take on the P900. It's over-hyped, and purchasing one was the worst photographic expenditure I've made since I bought a 43-86mm lens in 1968.
At the risk of bursting some bubbles, I want to ad... (show quote)


I agree and expected this to be the case when I bought my P600 camera which has similar zoom capability. So, I have decided that capturing moving targets at these extreme zooms is not practical. But, I can still shoot very good stills at these zooms. This camera is not a catch all camera but still a nice tool to have in the toolbox.
We need a camera mounted on a servo tracking platform to be able to capture moving subjects at very long distances. Sounds like a good project for some innovating Hog.

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Jul 2, 2015 11:53:47   #
BobbyT Loc: Southern California
 
rdgreenwood wrote:
I just checked Adorama, and they only had a new, full-priced P900. They did have a refurbished P600, but even that was for sale for more than $199. I don't know what you think you saw.


I bought a refurbished P600 for $199 from Adorama. That was one of the reasons I decided to try it.

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Jul 2, 2015 11:59:29   #
fotoless
 
Thanx BT! Moving targets aren't a priority here so will continue to look farward to the new toy! ~

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Jul 2, 2015 12:10:58   #
Shutter Bugger
 
rdgreenwood wrote:
At the risk of bursting some bubbles, I want to add a post that sums up my final conclusions on the Nikon P900. Last week I went to Florida and left my Nikon D800E and Canon G-12 at home, committed to giving the P900 a thorough trial. I shot birds, landscapes, interiors, and people. Here is what I decided.

I hear what everyone is saying about the zoom capability of the P900, but what good is it as a practical matter? At full zoom 2000mm is nearly impossible to hand hold; hell, even 500mm is dicey when it's hand held.

Okay, so you use a tripod. At 2000mm tracking a large bird is extremely difficult if you're on a tripod. I know that some heads are easier to use than others, but when the smallest movement equates to the loss of target and focus it's no mean task to collect it all and recover the shot.

I hate to say it, but unless your photographic goal is to create videos of things that are far away and to feed off the "oooos" and "aahs" of others, put your $600 back in your pocket and count it as a down payment on a mirrorless camera. As a bridge camera the P900 can't keep up with my Canon G-12.

The P900 is a bold step on Nikon's part, but shooting soft images from 24 to 2000mm, frustrating the user as he desperately struggles to keep a subject in the frame as every small movement--ISO adjustment, focal length tweak, a small bit of side conversation--and the occasional lock-up make it a weak package.

So that's my take on the P900. It's over-hyped, and purchasing one was the worst photographic expenditure I've made since I bought a 43-86mm lens in 1968.
At the risk of bursting some bubbles, I want to ad... (show quote)


In some other thread I think I said to someone who was going to buy one; "dont"... in a few more words though. I did not have to use it
to know exactly what you have written.

It's pretty obvious (to me) that the person who buys it is someone who
knows very little about photography and thinks the biggest numbers equals the best product.

The P900 is just a clever marketing ploy by Nikon to relieve the uninitiated from their money.

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Jul 2, 2015 12:18:25   #
BobbyT Loc: Southern California
 
Shutter Bugger wrote:
In some other thread I think I said to someone who was going to buy one; "dont"... in a few more words though. I did not have to use it
to know exactly what you have written.

It's pretty obvious (to me) that the person who buys it is someone who
knows very little about photography and thinks the biggest numbers equals the best product.

The P900 is just a clever marketing ploy by Nikon to relieve the uninitiated from their money.


And also, how clever you are!

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Jul 2, 2015 12:25:57   #
Shutter Bugger
 
BobbyT wrote:
And also, how clever you are!


It's hard to be humble when you're perfect in every way. 8-)

Seriously though it's not rocket science.

Diminishing returns applies to big numbers photographicwise in spades...
multiply that by the (lack of) cost of the unit and the only thing
that could be good about it, is the BIG numbers... on paper.

And having said all that, I have (about) a decade old 6.2 meg S6500fd
Fujifilm bridge camera, that is a useful tool. In fact I used it a couple of
hours ago while I was fixing my fridge

Fridge terminal location reference photo SOOC. You wanna see sharp, do the download.
Fridge terminal location reference photo SOOC.  Yo...
(Download)

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Jul 2, 2015 12:50:07   #
Kuzano
 
rdgreenwood wrote:
At the risk of bursting some bubbles, I want to add a post that sums up my final conclusions on the Nikon P900. Last week I went to Florida and left my Nikon D800E and Canon G-12 at home, committed to giving the P900 a thorough trial. I shot birds, landscapes, interiors, and people. Here is what I decided.

I hear what everyone is saying about the zoom capability of the P900, but what good is it as a practical matter? At full zoom 2000mm is nearly impossible to hand hold; hell, even 500mm is dicey when it's hand held.

Okay, so you use a tripod. At 2000mm tracking a large bird is extremely difficult if you're on a tripod. I know that some heads are easier to use than others, but when the smallest movement equates to the loss of target and focus it's no mean task to collect it all and recover the shot.

I hate to say it, but unless your photographic goal is to create videos of things that are far away and to feed off the "oooos" and "aahs" of others, put your $600 back in your pocket and count it as a down payment on a mirrorless camera. As a bridge camera the P900 can't keep up with my Canon G-12.

The P900 is a bold step on Nikon's part, but shooting soft images from 24 to 2000mm, frustrating the user as he desperately struggles to keep a subject in the frame as every small movement--ISO adjustment, focal length tweak, a small bit of side conversation--and the occasional lock-up make it a weak package.

So that's my take on the P900. It's over-hyped, and purchasing one was the worst photographic expenditure I've made since I bought a 43-86mm lens in 1968.
At the risk of bursting some bubbles, I want to ad... (show quote)

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Jul 2, 2015 12:52:07   #
Shutter Bugger
 
PS. It cost me less than $300 and there is no way I would swap it for a P900.

If you are thinking about buying a P900, go here and
save yourself 5 or 600 bucks and get a more useful unit:

http://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_from=R40&_trksid=p2050601.m570.l1313.TR2.TRC0.A0.H1.Xs6000fd.TRS0&_nkw=s6000fd&_sacat=0

The S6500fd and S6000fd are identical units, the Australian market jobs are 6500 and the US is 6000

The biggest weakness with the Fujifilm above, is noise at moderately high ISOs and noise with long (30 seconds) exposures

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Jul 2, 2015 13:16:29   #
Lee Everett
 
I disagree with the notion that the P900 is not sharp and not a good versatile bridge camera. I have had one for several months and I love it. I bring it with me everywhere and don't carry my heavy slrs with big lenses (D610 and D7000 with 80-200 2.8 and 24-70 2.8). I have shot in all kinds of situations, low light (at 3200 ISO) and bright sun light, 24 wide and zoomed all the way to 2000mm.
Once you get the hang of the zoom it is quite controllable. I have captured professional performance photographs that i never could have gotten with my longest lens. See my website at: www.finelinelenox.com (under photography-performance photography-slide show) the very first Tony Bennett and Lady Gaga photographs are shot with the P900. They were zoomed in to about 1200mm, but I have some shots at 2000mm that are just as sharp. Some of the others were shot with my P510.

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Jul 2, 2015 13:22:07   #
wingclui44 Loc: CT USA
 
Shutter Bugger wrote:
It's hard to be humble when you're perfect in every way. 8-)

Seriously though it's not rocket science.

Diminishing returns applies to big numbers photographicwise in spades...
multiply that by the (lack of) cost of the unit and the only thing
that could be good about it, is the BIG numbers... on paper.

And having said all that, I have (about) a decade old 6.2 meg S6500fd
Fujifilm bridge camera, that is a useful tool. In fact I used it a couple of
hours ago while I was fixing my fridge
It's hard to be humble when you're perfect in ever... (show quote)


I still have the Fujifilm S5000 with 3.1 mp. and 10X optical zoom, and the Panasonic Lumix DMC-FZ50 with 10mp. and 10X optical zoom, I use this Panny quite oven because of easy of use, especially when it's zoom-in (35-420mm) the lens doesn't extend even when focusing, it's internal focusing, it uses zoom ring to do zooming not toggle switch. It's sensor is lager than most of other bridge cam. now on the market, it's 1/1.8" sensor. I once took a picture of Central Park in infra red and made a 20X30" copy and now is hung on the wall of my sitting room.
After this one, I won't consider any more bridge camera because of their small sensor and I don't care how long their zoom can be!



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Jul 2, 2015 13:30:38   #
fotoless
 
Thanks, I do get the macro range sharp part but the 900 struck a chord after my Canon t2i w/24-300mm lens produced bacteria-sized orcas swimmin 1K yds off the shore of our vacation rental. I'm checking out the ebay ad you sent to try to determine, does a $135 refurbished 6500 approach the $600 mirage I'm chasing?

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Jul 2, 2015 14:06:15   #
shelty Loc: Medford, OR
 
I also have purchased a Nikon P900. First of all, I'm 88 years old and have recently developed a tremor which means that my hands now shake. I took a trip over to Ashland, Oregon's Lithia park. They have a large pond there, and as I was trying to get some duck shots (two of which won me first prizes in my camera club) I hand held this shot from across the lake of this lady. Now this is just a straight shot without a lot of processing. The second shot is of a duck processed for projection. Now look at these pictures and tell me what you think about the camera.


(Download)


(Download)

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Jul 2, 2015 14:07:23   #
shelty Loc: Medford, OR
 
I also have purchased a Nikon P900. First of all, I'm 88 years old and have recently developed a tremor which means that my hands now shake. I took a trip over to Ashland, Oregon's Lithia park. They have a large pond there, and as I was trying to get some duck shots (two of which won me first prizes in my camera club) I hand held this shot from across the lake of this lady. Now this is just a straight shot without a lot of processing. The second shot is of a duck processed for projection. Now look at these pictures and tell me what you think about the camera.


(Download)


(Download)

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Jul 2, 2015 14:22:19   #
Lee Everett
 
Very nice Shelty... I agree with you the P900 is a very versatile camera. See my shots of Tony Bennett on my website at www.finelinelenox.com under performance photography slide show.

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