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Jun 27, 2015 11:28:40   #
nanaval Loc: Cornwall
 
I would like to get the gritty look in B/W that I have seen in the people photography section. I have taken a biker and gone to B/W but can't find a filter to get the look.. Thanks

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Jun 27, 2015 11:34:36   #
Linda From Maine Loc: Yakima, Washington
 
What editing program/s do you have, Val? And do you want people to offer their versions, or just asking? (will you be posting a photo?)

If you see this before your hour is up, suggest you change title to something descriptive. See link above your avatar.

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Jun 27, 2015 11:40:38   #
chase4 Loc: Punta Corona, California
 
If you post the photo for us to work on, perhaps we can help.

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Jun 27, 2015 11:54:20   #
MT Shooter Loc: Montana
 
nanaval wrote:
I would like to get the gritty look in B/W that I have seen in the people photography section. I have taken a biker and gone to B/W but can't find a filter to get the look.. Thanks


Topaz offers their Photoshop Plug-ins which include numerous "grunge" filters of varying degrees, they work very well for the look you are seeking.

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Jun 27, 2015 11:58:27   #
SharpShooter Loc: NorCal
 
nanaval wrote:
I would like to get the gritty look in B/W that I have seen in the people photography section. I have taken a biker and gone to B/W but can't find a filter to get the look.. Thanks


n, try using B&W film, does it perfectly!!! :lol: :lol:
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Jun 27, 2015 12:18:44   #
Bill Houghton Loc: New York area
 
I have found that taking a color, not a b&W works pretty well. If you are using a decent editing program, when you convert the file to B&W, you can work on separate color ranges. Sliding the red - will bring out some the grunge, then go into your add on's as Mt Shooter suggested. or even an HDR Program can have its grunge effect.

Note: some of the effects you see on this site are professional done, some of the artist have spent years perfecting there art while others use a canned version.

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Jun 27, 2015 15:51:31   #
G Brown Loc: Sunny Bognor Regis West Sussex UK
 
As I understand it.....you tone map the image and then look at dodging and burning certain aspects by layer adjustment. Not an easy task nor quick but certainly worthwhile. I would suggest lots of reading and practice. BW has to be an image with impact first and then technique. You may get some hints here but it will take much more understanding of both camera technique and software usage to achieve what was originally quite a difficult darkroom workload.

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Jun 27, 2015 15:56:33   #
minniev Loc: MIssissippi
 
nanaval wrote:
I would like to get the gritty look in B/W that I have seen in the people photography section. I have taken a biker and gone to B/W but can't find a filter to get the look.. Thanks


What software do you have? There's more than one way to skin a cat, and we can help more if we know what you have to work with.

Silver Efex by NIK is one that is commonly used. On One, Topaz and MacPhun Tonality are some others I've used to get this effect. They all provide presets that can get you started but perform much better when you learn how to use the controls to determine your own outcome.

Even if you're working only with Lightroom there are presets that can help you begin to emulate some of these styles.

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Jun 27, 2015 16:19:12   #
boberic Loc: Quiet Corner, Connecticut. Ex long Islander
 
nanaval wrote:
I would like to get the gritty look in B/W that I have seen in the people photography section. I have taken a biker and gone to B/W but can't find a filter to get the look.. Thanks

almost all of the PP programs have B/W conversion available. As has been said some scenes have the starkness that looks better in B/W and some look better in color. Often it is a personal choice. There are books on B/W photography check them out.

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Jun 27, 2015 18:52:21   #
nanaval Loc: Cornwall
 
Linda From Maine wrote:
What editing program/s do you have, Val? And do you want people to offer their versions, or just asking? (will you be posting a photo?)

If you see this before your hour is up, suggest you change title to something descriptive. See link above your avatar.


Hi Linda, my hour has passed. I have Creative cloud 2015 and the Topaz and Nik collections, Inagenomic and photomatix Pro 5.0 and lightroom. What I would like to do is to get the gritty black and white look that I have seen in the people section, may be I do not have the filters that were used, I have tried with some of the filters that I have. I have attached some pictures

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Jun 27, 2015 18:53:19   #
nanaval Loc: Cornwall
 
chase4 wrote:
If you post the photo for us to work on, perhaps we can help.


Thanks chase4, I have posted some pictures....

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Jun 27, 2015 18:54:42   #
nanaval Loc: Cornwall
 
MT Shooter wrote:
Topaz offers their Photoshop Plug-ins which include numerous "grunge" filters of varying degrees, they work very well for the look you are seeking.


Thanks Mt Shooter, will have a look through them....

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Jun 27, 2015 18:56:27   #
nanaval Loc: Cornwall
 
SharpShooter wrote:
n, try using B&W film, does it perfectly!!! :lol: :lol:
SS


Thanks SharpShooter Will give it a go... :D

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Jun 27, 2015 19:01:15   #
nanaval Loc: Cornwall
 
Bill Houghton wrote:
I have found that taking a color, not a b&W works pretty well. If you are using a decent editing program, when you convert the file to B&W, you can work on separate color ranges. Sliding the red - will bring out some the grunge, then go into your add on's as Mt Shooter suggested. or even an HDR Program can have its grunge effect.

Note: some of the effects you see on this site are professional done, some of the artist have spent years perfecting there art while others use a canned version.
I have found that taking a color, not a b&W wo... (show quote)


Thanks Bill, Will give it a go.. and practice a lot... :D

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Jun 27, 2015 19:03:54   #
nanaval Loc: Cornwall
 
G Brown wrote:
As I understand it.....you tone map the image and then look at dodging and burning certain aspects by layer adjustment. Not an easy task nor quick but certainly worthwhile. I would suggest lots of reading and practice. BW has to be an image with impact first and then technique. You may get some hints here but it will take much more understanding of both camera technique and software usage to achieve what was originally quite a difficult darkroom workload.


Thanks G Brown, I did not think it would be a quick fix, If I can get the idea of what to do then I can practice... :D

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