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Feb 23, 2015 13:35:53   #
jburlinson Loc: Austin, TX
 
OK. I've pretty much gone all out for mirrorless, for all the obvious reasons. I still have a Pentax K5iis and a Sony A57, but am fixing, with great reluctance, to sell these in order to finance my next step -- full frame mirrorless, probably the Sony A7ii (to get the in camera image stabilization). This will also mean selling off my OMD EM5 and a full complement of mft zoom lenses from wide angle to telephoto along with an Oly 60mm macro f2.8.

So -- my two questions: (1) Am I crazy?

(2) Regardless of the answer to (1), what's my best roadmap for lenses for the A7ii to try to regain the scope I now have with my 3 zoom lenses and the portrait macro?

Any suggestions would be welcome. Thanks.

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Feb 24, 2015 06:47:43   #
lukan Loc: Chicago, IL
 
jburlinson wrote:
OK. I've pretty much gone all out for mirrorless, for all the obvious reasons. I still have a Pentax K5iis and a Sony A57, but am fixing, with great reluctance, to sell these in order to finance my next step -- full frame mirrorless, probably the Sony A7ii (to get the in camera image stabilization). This will also mean selling off my OMD EM5 and a full complement of mft zoom lenses from wide angle to telephoto along with an Oly 60mm macro f2.8.

So -- my two questions: (1) Am I crazy?

(2) Regardless of the answer to (1), what's my best roadmap for lenses for the A7ii to try to regain the scope I now have with my 3 zoom lenses and the portrait macro?

Any suggestions would be welcome. Thanks.
OK. I've pretty much gone all out for mirrorless,... (show quote)


I don't think you're crazy, just being a little hasty. The Oly gear is actually outstanding, just streamline your holdings. I personally do not like the A7 nor the A7ii nor the A7S. Sony only has about 4 lenses that work in full complement with those bodies. I'd take a different approach: use a full-frame DSLR, and a mft mirror-less. The OMD E-M5ii, would be my top mirror less choice at this time. It's just superior in every way, especially with its system lenses. Get the 12-40 f2.8 pro, the 40-150 f2.8 pro, you have the exceptional 60 macro, get the 75mm which is amazing, and the new 300mm. I find the Sony difficult to shoot with, and I don't like the actual pictures the A7 produces. The A99 is the best choice for a Sony full-frame, and it isn't mirror-less. I still think Canon (the new badass 5DSR) and Nikon (D810) are your best full-frame choices, and neither is an action/ sports camera. Before you commit to a Sony A7, I would highly recommend you borrow or rent one for a few days of shooting to see if you actually like using it. Another idea is to check out the Sony A6000, which costs significantly less but has an excellent sensor and great features, but not as good as the Oly E-M5ii. Just my 2 cents. ;-)

P.S. When the E-M1 Mkii comes out, I'm sure it'll be hands-down the most innovative, best mirror-less on the market, without debate.

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Feb 24, 2015 07:53:22   #
jerryc41 Loc: Catskill Mts of NY
 
jburlinson wrote:
(2) Regardless of the answer to (1), what's my best roadmap for lenses for the A7ii to try to regain the scope I now have with my 3 zoom lenses and the portrait macro?

Getting new equipment is one of the joys of photography. There will be pluses and minuses, but that's part of the fun of learning. As for the lenses, try to avoid much overlap in focal length and read reviews and comparisons. Canon and Nikon have more lenses available, but you really need hundreds of lenses. You have plenty of choices when it comes to lenses.

http://alikgriffin.com/sep/18/sony-a7-a7r-a7s-full-frame-e-mount-lens-list

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Feb 24, 2015 07:57:11   #
mikegreenwald Loc: Illinois
 
lukan wrote:
I don't think you're crazy, just being a little hasty. The Oly gear is actually outstanding, just streamline your holdings. I personally do not like the A7 nor the A7ii nor the A7S. Sony only has about 4 lenses that work in full complement with those bodies. I'd take a different approach: use a full-frame DSLR, and a mft mirror-less. The OMD E-M5ii, would be my top mirror less choice at this time. It's just superior in every way, especially with its system lenses. Get the 12-40 f2.8 pro, the 40-150 f2.8 pro, you have the exceptional 60 macro, get the 75mm which is amazing, and the new 300mm. I find the Sony difficult to shoot with, and I don't like the actual pictures the A7 produces. The A99 is the best choice for a Sony full-frame, and it isn't mirror-less. I still think Canon (the new badass 5DSR) and Nikon (D810) are your best full-frame choices, and neither is an action/ sports camera. Before you commit to a Sony A7, I would highly recommend you borrow or rent one for a few days of shooting to see if you actually like using it. Another idea is to check out the Sony A6000, which costs significantly less but has an excellent sensor and great features, but not as good as the Oly E-M5ii. Just my 2 cents. ;-)

P.S. When the E-M1 Mkii comes out, I'm sure it'll be hands-down the most innovative, best mirror-less on the market, without debate.
I don't think you're crazy, just being a little ha... (show quote)


I've looked into mirrorless some, and while I can't comment on the details (I shoot Canon & Nikon DSLR, others for large format film), I completely agree that you're too quick with the switch. Mirrorless has great promise, but so far there is nothing out there that compares with the best of FF mirror type DSLRs.

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Feb 24, 2015 09:24:42   #
jro1010
 
Hi guys. Here is my two cents... I owned an a7 when they came out originally, and before that I owned a olympus 4/3 (just to compare the sony vs olympus experience)... I was NEVER satisfied with the image quality of the sony a7, and always satisfied with the image of the olympus, even when I was shooting with the kit lenses.
What I am saying is that if you are satisfied with the olympus and the images that you are able to create with the lenses that you have, don't bite on the comercial conversation about full frame vs micro fourth thirds.
Now I am shooting Panasonic gx7 and gh4. They produced great images with cheap, light, lenses and am very satisfied with the images that I am getting. At the end, how you feel with them is what really matters. Peace to you all...jro

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Feb 24, 2015 18:21:48   #
lukan Loc: Chicago, IL
 
jro1010 wrote:
Hi guys. Here is my two cents... I owned an a7 when they came out originally, and before that I owned a olympus 4/3 (just to compare the sony vs olympus experience)... I was NEVER satisfied with the image quality of the sony a7, and always satisfied with the image of the olympus, even when I was shooting with the kit lenses.
What I am saying is that if you are satisfied with the olympus and the images that you are able to create with the lenses that you have, don't bite on the comercial conversation about full frame vs micro fourth thirds.
Now I am shooting Panasonic gx7 and gh4. They produced great images with cheap, light, lenses and am very satisfied with the images that I am getting. At the end, how you feel with them is what really matters. Peace to you all...jro
Hi guys. Here is my two cents... I owned an a7 whe... (show quote)


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Feb 24, 2015 19:23:33   #
texaseve Loc: TX, NC and NH
 
For what it's worth, I agree with Lukan. I have been studying the mirrorless cameras, reading, watching youtube, etc. to make a choice and I don't see a great one yet. They all lack in something or another. Time will improve these new guys I think.

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