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Feb 25, 2012 01:51:42   #
Nikonian72 Loc: Chico CA
 
tramsey wrote:
I understand that DOF has to have a small f stop here we have f/8 which is pretty wide I thought. Than one second? Why isn't the whole picture nothing but one big blur?

At 1:1 (life-size), f/8 provides a very narrow DOF. That is why I complimented OP for holding left & right stamens in focus with central pistil. He had to position subject just right in order to have all three parts in parallel with camera sensor plane, and keep all three within narrow DOF. Not easy!

I am sure this image was captured indoors, where lighting is controlled, and no wind. OP's camera was mounted on a sturdy tripod, so a 1-second exposure was no problem.

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Feb 25, 2012 11:17:52   #
tramsey Loc: Texas
 
Nikonian72 wrote:
tramsey wrote:
I understand that DOF has to have a small f stop here we have f/8 which is pretty wide I thought. Than one second? Why isn't the whole picture nothing but one big blur?
At 1:1 (life-size), f/8 provides a very narrow DOF. That is why I complimented OP for holding left & right stamens in focus with central pistil. He had to position subject just right in order to have all three parts in parallel with camera sensor plane, and keep all three within narrow DOF. Not easy!
I am sure this image was captured indoors, where lighting is controlled, and no wind. OP's camera was mounted on a sturdy tripod, so a 1-second exposure was no problem.
quote=tramsey I understand that DOF has to have a... (show quote)
Thanks much things are starting to come together now

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Feb 25, 2012 11:26:52   #
tramsey Loc: Texas
 
ring wrote:
tramsey wrote:
I have an old bridge camera Lumix FZ20
Oh, easy, thought we were talking SLR
You have more depth of field at 2.8 with your Panasonic than you would with a SLR.
I'm not familiar with Panasonic But I'm sure I can figure it out
here should be a Macro mode. It'll say Macro or there will be a flower symbol. You may be able to engage Macro in conjunction with another program like shutter priority. Like I said I'm not familiar with Panasonic but I'm sure there will be a Macro mode there somewhere.
This mode may automatically choose the aperture for you. And if it does it will most likely choose f8. F8 on your camera will give you more depth of field than you'd have with a SLR at f22
If Macro mode lets you choose the aperture, for this test choose 2.8 because this will allow for a faster shutter speed. The faster the shutter speed the less chance of blur due to camera shake or blur from your subject moving.
Set your ISO to the lowest number your camera has, should be around 100. Do not use automatic ISO if that's an option. Low ISO gives you a prettier picture, less noise.
Turn off your flash, the inboard flash can be used but that takes more settings to play around with. Way too easy to blow out the highlights with flash when shooting Macro.
Now, for macro photography "No camera movement" is very important. A tripod or a stationary object to hold your camera is a must. It doesn't matter what you want to photograph just pick something tiny.
You want some decent lighting and you can position your camera on a table a few inches away from your subject.
Look closely when your camera focuses. You can't get too close but you want to be close enough to focus properly. You want to make sure you're using spot focus, where your focus point is in the center of your lens. For Macro you're only using the center of your lens.
Let me know how this works out.
quote=tramsey I have an old bridge camera Lumix F... (show quote)
I bought this camera when it first came out, 2004, and was perfectly satisfied with the automatic setting and the nice zoom lens. I took all kinds of pictures of the grand kids and places where we visited etc and things were great. Then I found this site, I hate this site, and saw macro. WOW But I couldn't figured out how to work it on my trusty Lumix.

I can't afford to buy anything. I have a five year old grand daughter who has one leg shorter than the other and is going to require several major operations. Medicare, mediaide and my son-in-law's insurance only covers so much and its going to leave tens of thousands. Anyway, I can make this work.

So far this is macro for me

I know now I can do better



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Feb 25, 2012 11:54:30   #
Wabbit Loc: Arizona Desert
 
tramsey wrote:
So far this is macro for me
I know now I can do better
You did good, from the looks of it you used a very small aperture, probably f8.

Try using f2.8 if you want to isolate the background more (less depth of field)

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Feb 25, 2012 13:46:40   #
Nikonian72 Loc: Chico CA
 
tramsey wrote:
So far this is macro for me
I know now I can do better
Just so you are aware of the purpose of this forum, your photo of a yellow hibiscus flower is actually a close-up, not a macro.

By definition a macro image is exactly the same size on the sensor as the object being photographed. OP's image of an hibiscus pistil is life size; your photo of the same type flower shows much more area, because you are not close enough to isolate just the pistil.

Please read:
True Macro-Photography Forum Introduction
http://www.uglyhedgehog.com/t-22447-1.html

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Feb 25, 2012 16:14:37   #
tramsey Loc: Texas
 
Nikonian72 wrote:
tramsey wrote:
So far this is macro for me
I know now I can do better
Just so you are aware of the purpose of this forum, your photo of a yellow hibiscus flower is actually a close-up, not a macro.

By definition a macro image is exactly the same size on the sensor as the object being photographed. OP's image of an hibiscus pistil is life size; your photo of the same type flower shows much more area, because you are not close enough to isolate just the pistil.

Please read:
True Macro-Photography Forum Introduction
http://www.uglyhedgehog.com/t-22447-1.html
quote=tramsey So far this is macro for me br I kn... (show quote)


Read the link, something else I didn't know.
Let's see if I have it now: Close-up is 1:4 (Life Size, like my flower)
Macro is 1:1 (Life size. that's what you usually do with your flash ring, extension tubes and macro lens etc.)
Micro is 10:1 10X1 10 times life size, I don't think I've seen that

Only marco and micro is allowed on this forum as per the title, duh. Mine was neither, as it is a close up not allowed here, I should've posted it on general photography or maybe the analysis forum.

There how's that? Pretty soon I'll know so much, I'll even know what I'm talking about ... nahhhh.

I want you to know that I hold your photos, advise, tips, opinions and remarks in the highest regard and consider it an honor that you would extend a helping hand to me. I appreciate the time and patience it took very much.

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Feb 25, 2012 16:29:40   #
Nikonian72 Loc: Chico CA
 
tramsey wrote:
Only marco and micro is allowed on this forum as per the title, duh. Mine was neither, as it is a close up not allowed here, I should've posted it on general photography or maybe the analysis forum.
Just about any lens can capture a close-up photo. Many lenses can take a pseudo-macro photo. Only a purpose-built macro lens can take a true macro. This forum is reserved for true macro images.

If you want "Attaboy" comments, post to Photo Gallery. Do not expect much help in this forum.

If you want constructive criticism (sometimes a bit bloody) post to Photo Analysis. Take all comments (except mine) with a grain of salt. Remember, there is no criteria to determine between who really knows of what they speak, and wannabe experts.

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Feb 25, 2012 17:56:19   #
tramsey Loc: Texas
 
I am unable to afford a dslr with a couple of nice lens. So I won't be spending any time on the Macro Forum but I won't be in the Photo Gallery Forum either. I'll take your advice and go to Photo Analysis and learn something. I have a decent bridge camera, it is old like me and we get along. I haven't built up the courage to post anything in the Photo Analysis Forum but I am going to bit the bullet and just do it. Thanks again.

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Feb 28, 2012 10:22:10   #
ShooterOR
 
Nikonian72 wrote:
tramsey wrote:
Only marco and micro is allowed on this forum as per the title, duh. Mine was neither, as it is a close up not allowed here, I should've posted it on general photography or maybe the analysis forum.
Just about any lens can capture a close-up photo. Many lenses can take a pseudo-macro photo. Only a purpose-built macro lens can take a true macro. This forum is reserved for true macro images.

If you want "Attaboy" comments, post to Photo Gallery. Do not expect much help in this forum.

If you want constructive criticism (sometimes a bit bloody) post to Photo Analysis. Take all comments (except mine) with a grain of salt. Remember, there is no criteria to determine between who really knows of what they speak, and wannabe experts.
quote=tramsey Only marco and micro is allowed on ... (show quote)


Just my humble opinion on the Photo Gallery section: There are so many posting, that images quickly get "lost" on the back pages without being seen by many. Since "bumping" is a "no no", the Photo Analysis is the place to go-- or perhaps the speciality forums.

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