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Sep 22, 2011 17:38:18   #
gayellen Loc: Arkansas
 
what camera settings would you use in this setting? This picture is not "fixed" in any way.. Need advice please.... I have a Nikon D90.. thanks for your help



opposite wall with floor lamp
opposite wall with floor lamp...

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Sep 22, 2011 17:44:32   #
JimH Loc: Western South Jersey, USA
 
Here's the problem - the light from the back windows is gonna throw off your exposure. The table lamp isn't helping, but it's not as big a deal-breaker as the windows. I'd close the drapes, turn on some other lighting in the room, and make sure the foreground is as well lit, to get their faces. Also, clear away some of the clutter in the frame temporarily.

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Sep 22, 2011 18:15:58   #
gayellen Loc: Arkansas
 
JimH wrote:
Here's the problem - the light from the back windows is gonna throw off your exposure. The table lamp isn't helping, but it's not as big a deal-breaker as the windows. I'd close the drapes, turn on some other lighting in the room, and make sure the foreground is as well lit, to get their faces. Also, clear away some of the clutter in the frame temporarily.


no overhead lighting in this portion of the room. just the wall lights to the left of the lamp and on every post between the doors.. 2 table lamps and 2 floor lamps.. this is all the lighting in this area.. there is a light fixture over the table on the far left of the picture but doesn't help light up this area.. If the wall lights are on they reflect back in the picture.. this is where we do family gatherings.. family home on the lake. do lots of Christmas pics here too.. that's a problem too...

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Sep 22, 2011 18:17:41   #
patw62
 
I am soooo new but I don't agree with the previous comment. I love the outside shot, puts the inside shot in perspective. Warm and fuzzy christmas shot with a cold and blistery back ground looks like ice. With all those great sliding windows I really think that is what the shooter was aiming for. Don't know how to correct it, do you have a "backlight" feature on the camera? Did you use a flash. Photo has so much potential. I love it.

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Sep 22, 2011 18:21:40   #
kruegewm01 Loc: buff ny
 
repositining to the right and shooting back in will also help. it will get rid of some of the outside light letting the picture lighten up a bit and it seems like you should still beable to capture some of the outside effect

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Sep 22, 2011 18:23:50   #
gayellen Loc: Arkansas
 
patw62 wrote:
I am soooo new but I don't agree with the previous comment. I love the outside shot, puts the inside shot in perspective. Warm and fuzzy christmas shot with a cold and blistery back ground looks like ice. With all those great sliding windows I really think that is what the shooter was aiming for. Don't know how to correct it, do you have a "backlight" feature on the camera? Did you use a flash. Photo has so much potential. I love it.


no flash used..

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Sep 22, 2011 18:34:38   #
JimH Loc: Western South Jersey, USA
 
patw62 wrote:
I am soooo new but I don't agree with the previous comment. I love the outside shot, puts the inside shot in perspective. Warm and fuzzy christmas shot with a cold and blistery back ground looks like ice. With all those great sliding windows I really think that is what the shooter was aiming for.

If it was what the shooter was aiming for, s/he wouldn't have asked for, and I quote, "HELP!".

The windows in the back make it difficult to get a correct exposure such that you can see the people's faces. S/he needs more light IN the room, and less light coming in from outside.. Simple as that.

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Sep 22, 2011 19:20:57   #
bobmielke Loc: Portland, OR
 
gaye mgough wrote:
what camera settings would you use in this setting? This picture is not "fixed" in any way.. Need advice please.... I have a Nikon D90.. thanks for your help


Regarding the first shot: Understand how a digital camera, any camera, adjusts its exposure. It averages the brightest light source it sees. In this case its the light from the windows resulting in the people being too dark. Use "exposure compensation". Every digital camera has it. Read your book.

If you want the scene in the window and the people to be exposed correctly at the same time, take two shots, one with compensation, one without. blend the two together. This can only be done with a camera capable of "bracketing", which will shoot multiple frames with adjustments to exposure rapidly.

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Sep 23, 2011 06:57:34   #
CarlR Loc: Brooklyn, NY to Santa Monica, CA
 
on my mac, I dragged your photo onto the desktop and opened it in preview.... I cropped the child behind the jar and opened the shadow detail.



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Sep 23, 2011 07:01:38   #
CarlR Loc: Brooklyn, NY to Santa Monica, CA
 
Again in preview i cropped out the clutter and lightened the photo



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Sep 23, 2011 07:07:19   #
bobmielke Loc: Portland, OR
 
CarlR wrote:
on my mac, I dragged your photo onto the desktop and opened it in preview.... I cropped the child behind the jar and opened the shadow detail.


Please understand that the poster didn't ask for these photos to be "fixed". What he wanted was advice on doing a better job of getting them right in the camera.

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Sep 23, 2011 08:28:17   #
gayellen Loc: Arkansas
 
I would like to Thank everyone for your help.. and it seems to be a problem as to whether I am male or female.. I am a female my real name is Gay no kidding.. I was born in the 50's when the real meaning of the word was Happy...

I have asked Admin to change my name to Ellen which is my middle name...

Again thank you all for your input on my photos.. I love this forum I am learinging more and understanding things better now...

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Sep 23, 2011 09:53:33   #
GTinSoCal Loc: Palmdale, CA
 
I would like to see the outside exposed proeprly too.
You would to meter for the outside and use flash to fill the interior.
If no flash is available, you can bring up the light levels inside by placing the aformentioned lamps in front of the subjects and as close as feasible.
With floor lamps only, you probable won't be able to get a balanced photo, with that lighting, but you could time the photos for near sunset when the exterior light levels will be dropping.

Gordon

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Sep 23, 2011 10:01:58   #
gayellen Loc: Arkansas
 
GTinSoCal wrote:
I would like to see the outside exposed proeprly too.
You would to meter for the outside and use flash to fill the interior.
If no flash is available, you can bring up the light levels inside by placing the aformentioned lamps in front of the subjects and as close as feasible.
With floor lamps only, you probable won't be able to get a balanced photo, with that lighting, but you could time the photos for near sunset when the exterior light levels will be dropping.
Gordon



Thank you very much...

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Sep 23, 2011 12:38:31   #
CarlR Loc: Brooklyn, NY to Santa Monica, CA
 
and you do not feel that "fixing" them didn't show a better photo. Except where the people in the second picture were looking.
I would suggest that she expose for the darkest face in the crowd, tighten up her image, or get the group closer together. (shot 1)
I would suggest that she expose for the just the people and have them look into the lens (shot2).

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