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Sigma 70-200mm f/2.8 EX DG APO OS HSM vs Canon EF 70-200mm f/2.8L IS II USM Lens
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Nov 21, 2014 14:55:41   #
Japakomom
 
Do you have experience with one or both of these lenses? Is the Canon worth the extra $1000.00? I am shooting basketball indoors and need less noise.

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Nov 21, 2014 15:05:42   #
xxredbeardxx
 
Japakomom wrote:
Do you have experience with one or both of these lenses? Is the Canon worth the extra $1000.00? I am shooting basketball indoors and need less noise.


I don't have that lense, but I do have a Sigma
lens and I love it. I'm guessing you will be very happy
with the Sigma. They make great lenses.

Good luck and have fun.

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Nov 21, 2014 15:11:00   #
MT Shooter (a regular here)
 
Japakomom wrote:
Do you have experience with one or both of these lenses? Is the Canon worth the extra $1000.00? I am shooting basketball indoors and need less noise.


Noise is caused by the camera sensor, not the lens. A faster lens will allow for lower ISO settings, resulting in slightly less noise. But if you really need to eliminate noise you will probably have to upgrade your body for one with a more capable sensor.

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Nov 21, 2014 15:12:36   #
Japakomom
 
xxredbeardxx wrote:
I don't have that lense, but I do have a Sigma
lens and I love it. I'm guessing you will be very happy
with the Sigma. They make great lenses.

Good luck and have fun.


Thank you for your input.

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Nov 21, 2014 15:22:45   #
Japakomom
 
MT Shooter wrote:
Noise is caused by the camera sensor, not the lens. A faster lens will allow for lower ISO settings, resulting in slightly less noise. But if you really need to eliminate noise you will probably have to upgrade your body for one with a more capable sensor.


I am using a 6D, which has always been good with noise. This is the first time I am shooting basketball and I realize I do not have a camera that is designed for sports. This past week I was using my Sigma 50-200/4.5-6.3 along with an ISO of 12800 and the noise is hard to clean up. Just wondering if a 2.8 would help in this regard. I am attaching a couple of shots.


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Nov 21, 2014 15:24:18   #
MT Shooter (a regular here)
 
On that body it would. The 6D is the best low noise sensor Canon has. Even at that though, the 12,800 ISO will be noisy

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Nov 21, 2014 15:29:28   #
Japakomom
 
MT Shooter wrote:
On that body it would. The 6D is the best low noise sensor Canon has. Even at that though, the 12,800 ISO will be noisy


Thank you for your help!

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Nov 21, 2014 15:36:29   #
xxredbeardxx
 
I am using a 6D, which has always been good with noise. This is the first time I am shooting basketball and I realize I do not have a camera that is designed for sports. This past week I was using my Sigma 50-200/4.5-6.3 along with an ISO of 12800 and the noise is hard to clean up. Just wondering if a 2.8 would help in this regard. I am attaching a couple of shots.

I can't imagine needing ISO higher than 400 for
what your doing. I never use higher than 1000
even on night shots. Give 400-600 a try before
buying anything.

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Nov 21, 2014 15:37:52   #
MT Shooter (a regular here)
 
Japakomom wrote:
Thank you for your help!


Anytime.

I might suggest finding someone that may be willing to loan you a 70-200mm F2.8 lens to try at a game. Or even just rent one prior to laying out the cash to buy one, just to make sure it will do the job for you.
My favorite basketball/volleyball lens is the Sigma 120-300mm F2.8 Sports lens, its simply amazing indoors or out. And its the worlds ONLY 300mm F2.8 zoom lens, quite a feat seeing as they have made it for over 12 years and no other manufacturer has even come close.

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Nov 21, 2014 15:44:13   #
xxredbeardxx
 
MT Shooter wrote:
Anytime.

My favorite basketball/volleyball lens is the Sigma 120-300mm F2.8 Sports lens, its simply amazing indoors or out. And its the worlds ONLY 300mm F2.8 zoom lens, quite a feat seeing as they have made it for over 12 years and no other manufacturer has even come close.


You know a lot more than I do about this.
I was just rather shocked at using such high ISO.

I don't shoot indoor sports.

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Nov 21, 2014 15:46:29   #
MT Shooter (a regular here)
 
xxredbeardxx wrote:
You know a lot more than I do about this.
I was just rather shocked at using such high ISO.

I don't shoot indoor sports.


I regularly shoot basketball at ISO 6400. There are a few gyms around here with better lighting that allow for ISO 3200, but not many, especially at the high school level.

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Nov 21, 2014 15:49:49   #
xxredbeardxx
 
MT Shooter wrote:
I regularly shoot basketball at ISO 6400. There are a few gyms around here with better lighting that allow for ISO 3200, but not many, especially at the high school level.


Wow, ok. I shoot surfers on foggy mornings.
I guess I need to try it before giving advise.

Thanks for the heads up for when I do.

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Nov 21, 2014 16:12:46   #
Japakomom
 
MT Shooter wrote:
Anytime.

I might suggest finding someone that may be willing to loan you a 70-200mm F2.8 lens to try at a game. Or even just rent one prior to laying out the cash to buy one, just to make sure it will do the job for you.
My favorite basketball/volleyball lens is the Sigma 120-300mm F2.8 Sports lens, its simply amazing indoors or out. And its the worlds ONLY 300mm F2.8 zoom lens, quite a feat seeing as they have made it for over 12 years and no other manufacturer has even come close.


Yes, I have several places nearby that rent. I just looked up the 120-300, wow is all I can say! I know my husband thinks the pictures are fine, but I can see that they could be much better.
Thank you again!

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Nov 21, 2014 16:15:13   #
Japakomom
 
xxredbeardxx wrote:

I can't imagine needing ISO higher than 400 for
what your doing. I never use higher than 1000
even on night shots. Give 400-600 a try before
buying anything.


The problem being is that to get a lower ISO I need to slow down the shutter and with basketball it becomes a big blur. I will have to try some other things, I have all basketball season to figure it out :)
Thanks again!

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Nov 22, 2014 06:54:52   #
Gene51 (a regular here)
 
Japakomom wrote:
Do you have experience with one or both of these lenses? Is the Canon worth the extra $1000.00? I am shooting basketball indoors and need less noise.


A lens will have no direct impact on noise, but if it is not performing well at its widest aperture, then you will have to use a smaller one, and that may require you to increase your ISO.

That being said, there is not a lot of practical difference between the Sigma, Tamron, or the two Canons - though from a purely performance point of view, I think I like the Tamron the best (better than the Sigma), though I would be ok with any of them - on a cropped camera.

If you are on a full frame - then the IS II is the best choice -

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