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Sep 20, 2011 07:32:34   #
jonsund Loc: Currently: Florida, USA
 
This image was captured at the train station in Woolwich, UK, located near London. It was near the end of April 2011 when it was taken. It is a High Dynamic Range (HDR) image that is the result of combining three images.

Nikon D300, Exposure 1/250 at f/5.6, Exposure Bias -2 EV, Aperture priority, spot metering, ISO 800, Focal Length 20 mm, Sigma 10.0-20.0 mm f/4.0-5.6

The above setting is for the center image, images 2 stops lower and 2 stops higher were combined with it to produce the HDR image using Photomatrix Pro.

The lighting was the challenge in creating this image because you had the bright sky and the shadowed interior of the train platform to capture. The addition of people added a challenge to the HDR Software and I feel it did an excellent job.

Woolwich Train Station (London)
Woolwich Train Station (London)...

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Sep 20, 2011 07:49:41   #
notnoBuddha
 
I know litle about the process. As to your picture I can not say if HDR makes this picture either better or worse. I do know that of several side by side examples I have seen I am not always impressed. That being said I understand the challange of light in this picture and I do believe that you have a very nice tonal range and resolution. Thanks for sharing.

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Sep 20, 2011 16:49:28   #
jonsund Loc: Currently: Florida, USA
 
notnoBuddha wrote:
I know litle about the process. As to your picture I can not say if HDR makes this picture either better or worse. I do know that of several side by side examples I have seen I am not always impressed. That being said I understand the challange of light in this picture and I do believe that you have a very nice tonal range and resolution. Thanks for sharing.


I agree that HDR is often used with not the greatest of results. In this image I was able to keep the light at the end of the railroad tunnel at a level that allowed you to see inside the tunnel and the outside at its end. The light ranges here are simple for our eyes to interpret but the camera just does not have the tonal range to do it with one image. Hope it doesn't give the impression of over cooked that people seem to dislike.

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Sep 20, 2011 19:50:12   #
ianhargraves1066 Loc: NEW SMYRNA BEACH, Florida
 
Wrong end of London for me. I'm originally from the other end of town (Nottinghill) but brings back some good vibes. This is the station you go to to go see soccer games the team being Arsenal. (The gunners)

Nice shot.
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Sep 20, 2011 19:55:51   #
beegal Loc: Pennsylvania
 
Wow, i love it...

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Sep 20, 2011 20:27:51   #
bobmielke Loc: Portland, OR
 
Good shot needing minor tweaks. Increased contrast,& levels and then straightened the shot using the vertical girder on the left.

Original - Unedited
Original - Unedited...

Enhanced with above suggestions
Enhanced with above suggestions...

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Sep 20, 2011 21:19:44   #
jonsund Loc: Currently: Florida, USA
 
bobmielke wrote:
Good shot needing minor tweaks. Increased contrast,& levels and then straightened the shot using the vertical girder on the left.


like the straightening, but some people might think it is becoming to contrasty and unreal. I like high contrast images so I am with you. Thank you for the input.

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Sep 20, 2011 21:33:36   #
liv2paddle Loc: Wall, NJ
 
I think this image would look great with more punch..if you are going to the trouble ..and I think this one is worth the trouble..make it pop!



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Sep 21, 2011 09:56:15   #
jonsund Loc: Currently: Florida, USA
 
liv2paddle wrote:
I think this image would look great with more punch..if you are going to the trouble ..and I think this one is worth the trouble..make it pop!


It appears there must be a small group of us that like images with a lot of punch. Thank you for the input.

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Sep 21, 2011 11:06:08   #
tilde531 Loc: Seaford Delaware
 
jonsund wrote:
It appears there must be a small group of us that like images with a lot of punch. Thank you for the input.


*raises hand and asks to be added to that list!*

Neat photo and commentary. :)

I've been reading about the process, too... sounds tedious, but I can understand going through all that for some shots!

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Sep 21, 2011 12:19:25   #
user2071 Loc: New England
 
jonsund wrote:
This image was captured at the train station in Woolwich, UK, located near London. It was near the end of April 2011 when it was taken. It is a High Dynamic Range (HDR) image that is the result of combining three images.

Nikon D300, Exposure 1/250 at f/5.6, Exposure Bias -2 EV, Aperture priority, spot metering, ISO 800, Focal Length 20 mm, Sigma 10.0-20.0 mm f/4.0-5.6

The above setting is for the center image, images 2 stops lower and 2 stops higher were combined with it to produce the HDR image using Photomatrix Pro.

The lighting was the challenge in creating this image because you had the bright sky and the shadowed interior of the train platform to capture. The addition of people added a challenge to the HDR Software and I feel it did an excellent job.
This image was captured at the train station in Wo... (show quote)


I like it and generally I hate HDR ... so that's a compliment. Most HDR photos look to me as if they were taken on a different planet or are a part of someone else's bad acid trip. This doesn't, so you are doing something right!

And in my opinion NO IT DOESN'T NEED MORE PUNCH. What is it with all you people that think everything needs to be punched up to the max? Good LORD, what happened to subtlety, to soft, to anything other than blatant, screaming and over-saturated?

I live on planet Earth. I like images of MY world. I want sunsets as GOD made them, not Photoshop. Adobe is not God, in case you haven't noticed.

I don't care what sells. I don't care what's trendy. Most of your pictures give me a migraine. This one doesn't and that is a good thing. Nice to be able to look at something and not feel I need sunglasses.

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Sep 21, 2011 13:10:41   #
jonsund Loc: Currently: Florida, USA
 
fivedawgz wrote:
jonsund wrote:
This image was captured at the train station in Woolwich, UK, located near London. It was near the end of April 2011 when it was taken. It is a High Dynamic Range (HDR) image that is the result of combining three images.

Nikon D300, Exposure 1/250 at f/5.6, Exposure Bias -2 EV, Aperture priority, spot metering, ISO 800, Focal Length 20 mm, Sigma 10.0-20.0 mm f/4.0-5.6

The above setting is for the center image, images 2 stops lower and 2 stops higher were combined with it to produce the HDR image using Photomatrix Pro.

The lighting was the challenge in creating this image because you had the bright sky and the shadowed interior of the train platform to capture. The addition of people added a challenge to the HDR Software and I feel it did an excellent job.
This image was captured at the train station in Wo... (show quote)


I like it and generally I hate HDR ... so that's a compliment. Most HDR photos look to me as if they were taken on a different planet or are a part of someone else's bad acid trip. This doesn't, so you are doing something right!

And in my opinion NO IT DOESN'T NEED MORE PUNCH. What is it with all you people that think everything needs to be punched up to the max? Good LORD, what happened to subtlety, to soft, to anything other than blatant, screaming and over-saturated?

I live on planet Earth. I like images of MY world. I want sunsets as GOD made them, not Photoshop. Adobe is not God, in case you haven't noticed.

I don't care what sells. I don't care what's trendy. Most of your pictures give me a migraine. This one doesn't and that is a good thing. Nice to be able to look at something and not feel I need sunglasses.
quote=jonsund This image was captured at the trai... (show quote)


Guess that's is why they have water colors, acrylic, and oil for painters, because not everyone agrees what looks best.

It is good that you like this image and that it doesn't give you a headache, one of the goals of HDR is to enlarge the tonal range that is available from the camera so the image in print looks more like what our eye can see. Since the camera can only see about 1/3 the tonal range that our eye sees and makes corrections to bring it all into balance, I think that balancing the extended range to reflect what the eye sees should be the goal of our photography.

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Sep 21, 2011 13:24:14   #
user2071 Loc: New England
 
jonsund wrote:


Guess that's is why they have water colors, acrylic, and oil for painters, because not everyone agrees what looks best.

It is good that you like this image and that it doesn't give you a headache, one of the goals of HDR is to enlarge the tonal range that is available from the camera so the image in print looks more like what our eye can see. Since the camera can only see about 1/3 the tonal range that our eye sees and makes corrections to bring it all into balance, I think that balancing the extended range to reflect what the eye sees should be the goal of our photography.[/quote]

And that is what I like about this. It is balanced. The photographer brought out what might otherwise be lost without making the picture into something from outer space.

There IS room for different styles ... let us hope we remember that.

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Sep 21, 2011 17:04:07   #
liv2paddle Loc: Wall, NJ
 
Most times a photo can stand on its own..other times it might be a throw away..and then whoops along came HDR and now we are making shinola..lol..I am somewhat of a purist..in that I don't do much HDR in photography..but the artist in me..says a very ordinary picture ..with great lines..can be more then just a snapshot if you have an imagination. I have salvaged many a shot by converson to black and white..its called art!

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Sep 21, 2011 17:22:37   #
user2071 Loc: New England
 
liv2paddle wrote:
Most times a photo can stand on its own..other times it might be a throw away..and then whoops along came HDR and now we are making shinola..lol..I am somewhat of a purist..in that I don't do much HDR in photography..but the artist in me..says a very ordinary picture ..with great lines..can be more then just a snapshot if you have an imagination. I have salvaged many a shot by converson to black and white..its called art!


And I say: 42!

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