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Jan 16, 2012 12:01:24   #
nikondaddy Loc: Mayfield,Kentucky
 
If you had her stand and used the back ground to catch all th light minus her feet and the part that shows your flash you could have had a real winner for flash fill only the sun glasses would have revealed you.

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Jan 16, 2012 12:03:17   #
Bob.J Loc: On The Move
 
English_Wolf wrote:
It depends of what you tried to achieve as main subject:

The woman? Flash: Enough, Natural light: too much
The outside with her? Too much, natural light, too much
Outside? Too much of both

So, essentially over exposed.
Histogram confirms it.

Note: That she looks at you, is making me believe she is the main subject. If so, you are a mean person for cutting off her right foot!!! (That slight tilt of the camera would have balanced the whole picture by the way).


Mr Wolf,
This is off topic, but I noticed you said the "histogram confirms it"
How did you get histogram info on this picture?
There's not the download option
Just curious
BJ

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Jan 16, 2012 12:10:57   #
English_Wolf Loc: Near Pensacola, FL
 
You right click and save the picture then open it with whatever software you normally use.

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Jan 16, 2012 13:43:40   #
Bob.J Loc: On The Move
 
English_Wolf wrote:
You right click and save the picture then open it with whatever software you normally use.


I get that, It just downloads a thumbnail with no EXIF info.
I tried a experiment and downloaded one of my own posts and the histogram was different between the original and the thumbnail.

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Jan 16, 2012 13:50:57   #
English_Wolf Loc: Near Pensacola, FL
 
Thumbnails do not retain the EXIF (or any other customized information). An histogram is not part of EXIF but the result of software analysis. Hence my: "then open it with whatever software you normally use"

If you need more info, please PM as this is taking too much space.

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Jan 16, 2012 15:30:51   #
Mykey
 
It looks too dark to me and I don't like the hard shadow by her leg. How about moving the flash off the camera to the right, as close to her as possible but out of the frame so that the shadow will be also out of the frame? I'd start with the flash comp at 0 and if you have a light box, try that.

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Jan 16, 2012 16:40:16   #
KG
 
English_Wolf wrote:
If so, you are a mean person for cutting off her right foot!!!


Yeah, I'm bad like that. I constantly frame shots in a way that leaves something out.

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Jan 16, 2012 16:43:43   #
KG
 
RayT, thanks for the info. I'll give it a try the next chance I get.

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Jan 16, 2012 16:56:20   #
KG
 
PNagy wrote:
I like the shot, but would like it more if one foot were not cut off and you had cloned out the dark shadows behind her legs.


I got the foot thing. But as far as cloning out, I don't want to do it.

My philosophy regarding post processing is simple: apply whatever changes you want to the entire image, but not to parts of it. Anything goes (filters, curves, whatever) as long as it's applied to the entire frame.

I don't claim this to be the only acceptable way of processing or anything like that. It's just what I strive for.

Once you start fixing parts of the image here and there, it's no longer photography, but more like graphics arts. (Bad pixels or dust is a different matter.)

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Jan 16, 2012 16:57:24   #
KG
 
twowindsbear wrote:
Had there been a bit more distance between the lady and the balcony wall, the shadow of her leg would have been less harsh.


Yes, that's true.

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Jan 16, 2012 16:57:54   #
KG
 
Mykey wrote:
It looks too dark to me and I don't like the hard shadow by her leg. How about moving the flash off the camera to the right, as close to her as possible but out of the frame so that the shadow will be also out of the frame? I'd start with the flash comp at 0 and if you have a light box, try that.


I'll try it. Thanks.

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Jan 16, 2012 17:35:29   #
digicamking Loc: Raleigh, NC
 
KG wrote:
Last night, I took a photo of my wife on the balcony of our hotel room.
The sun outside was rather bright, so I put on a flash unit with 1/4 CTO gel.
I dialed FEC to +1 stop.

But now that I'm looking at the photo, I can't decide if it was too much fill flash or not enough.

On the one hand, she looks somewhat dark, so I should have used more flash power.
On the other hand, the shadows cast look really hard and the flash reflection is showing on the skin. So upping the flash output would only make it worse.

One thing I'm thinking about is using a (large) sheet of paper as a diffuser and upping the flash output by 1-2 stops. Do you think this would work?
Last night, I took a photo of my wife on the balco... (show quote)


Your question had nothing to do with cropping or composition. The amount of light on your wife might have been a little more. By puting a tad more light from the flash on her the background would have been made a little darker. It is a matter of your opinion. I could live with the picture either way and would have been happy.

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Jan 16, 2012 17:38:55   #
coco1964 Loc: Winsted Mn
 
It's a snapshot---nothing that's going to be hanging on the wall. No way I know of to put her foot back on but most of what you want fixed can be done in PP. Seems like you were trying to overthink the shot from the get go and personally don't think it's that bad. Could it be better?? Yeah but unless it's going to go over the fireplace don't lose sleep over it. Give your OK and I'm sure someone will fix it up and tell you how they did it.........

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Jan 16, 2012 18:12:20   #
Billybuzz Loc: Whiteford, MD
 
English_Wolf wrote:
lincoln85, What the hell is this repost about? A weird remake?


I think there may have been a complaint about editing the picture without permission.......NEW RULES

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Jan 16, 2012 19:02:45   #
SteveR Loc: Michigan
 
Smaller aperture to bring the ships into better focus and more fill on your wife.

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