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Jan 10, 2012 17:34:09   #
nat Loc: Martha's Vineyard, MA
 
fotogk wrote:
nat wrote:
It's too cold to shoot in the RAW. So I'll try your other suggestion.

Try that in NH and you will get a little more blue in your image.
:oops:


Hi Fotogk (I found the reply I was looking for):
It would definitely be a health hazard to expose one's derriere to the New Hampshire dairy air.

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Jan 12, 2012 17:33:16   #
birdpix Loc: South East Pennsylvania
 
belwj wrote:
snowbear wrote:
I agree with swamp gator and fstop22: the bird is overexposed because the meter is probably looking at the whole scene, and the darker background covers more of an area than the swan. This can also happen with shots of waterfalls.

If you meter for the swan, the background will likely be dark (the opposite of here). If you have the time, I'd try to meter for the swan (spot or center weighted), then bracket shots for one to two stops either side. You should be able to selectively adjust the levels in post processing (use layers and a mask) to get things close to equal. Alternatively, you could try HDR/Tone mapping the set of exposures (may not work well since the swans are moving.)
I agree with swamp gator and fstop22: the bird is ... (show quote)


Won't spot metering only on the bird render the bird as grey?
quote=snowbear I agree with swamp gator and fstop... (show quote)


Snow Bear: Note where Ephraim has placed his metering spot. It is in the shadow area under the birds beak which is closer to the 17% gray that the meter is trying to record. Metering off the directly lit back of the bird would indeed have rendered the bird gray and requiring some + exposure compensation. As to using more focus spots: I always focus on the birds eye. You can allow other parts of the bird to be out of focus but the eye is such a "focal Point" that I just discard anything where the eye is out of focus.



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Jan 12, 2012 17:56:55   #
nat Loc: Martha's Vineyard, MA
 
birdpix: I have many photos of the eyes of swans and their feathers are totally blown out, which is unacceptable to me. I did try underexposing by a couple stops- at someone's suggestion- and it seemed to help quite a bit. (I was shooting in lots of sunlight). It seems that swans and white birds, in general, might need a little different exposure technique, no?
I'm a novice so I am searching for all the info I can get.
Thanks.

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Jan 12, 2012 17:58:45   #
nat Loc: Martha's Vineyard, MA
 
PS: I must say, your egret's eye is very sharp and the feathers are pretty sharp!

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Jan 16, 2012 15:06:59   #
English_Wolf Loc: Near Pensacola, FL
 
nat wrote:
How can I adjust my settings to bring out the feather patterns? As you can see, this swan looks like a big white blob. Thanks in advance
A simple fix. Shoot raw and process it as an imitation HDR. We always forget that there is data even in an over exposed picture area. The key is to bring it out.

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Jan 17, 2012 10:49:35   #
Larry R. Loc: Nebraska
 
This is my swan, there was probably more light in the background so the camera did not over compensate for the dark background in your shot. I shot with Nikon D90, 220 mm, f 6.3, 1/1600 iso 200.



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Jan 17, 2012 12:25:53   #
nat Loc: Martha's Vineyard, MA
 
English Wolf - I like your idea but I'm not up to speed on processing as you described. My winter project is to learng more editing. Thank you.

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Jan 17, 2012 12:29:42   #
nat Loc: Martha's Vineyard, MA
 
Larry: I like your swan shot very much. I like the little bit of background showing and the shadows on the swan make it a very lovely and serene photo (can't say that much for their behavior, tho - they can be really mean!) They are still my favorite birds to shoot-mostly because they don't move around that much.

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Jan 20, 2012 23:31:03   #
RMM Loc: Suburban New York
 
I'm sorry, every time I see the title of this topic, I keep thinking, "Shotgun!"

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Jan 21, 2012 08:16:46   #
nat Loc: Martha's Vineyard, MA
 
Well, I am using a Canon!

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Jan 21, 2012 09:21:47   #
ftpecktim Loc: MONTANA
 
RMM wrote:
I'm sorry, every time I see the title of this topic, I keep thinking, "Shotgun!"


lol.. I was thinking get a better scope....I mean lens.

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