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Ebay Store "6th Avenue Express"
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Mar 28, 2014 13:11:30   #
Los-Angeles-Shooter Loc: Los Angeles
 
Indi wrote:
OK, got a response from them. Seems kind of "distracting," for lack of a better word. They didn't answer my question directly:
The response: "Thank you for your inquiry. This model will come with our store warranty which covers 90 days labor and 1 year parts for manufacture defects. No other warranty is implied. You will need to contact us for return for repair requests within the 1st year. Please let us know if you have any other questions, we are happy to help."


Mealy-mouthed horse manure. If they're not even honest enough to give you a straight answer, how can you trust them for anything else?

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Mar 28, 2014 13:12:45   #
ducwic Loc: Milwaukee, Wi.
 
Does the site tell you what's in the box??
If they state there's a battery and charger, it's not original and lens caps, manuals, cables are after market, (not original) Some low-ball sellers don't even include the battery and charger.
As has been noted, the warranty is not from the Mfg.and limited.
Sooooo are you a gambler?????

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Mar 28, 2014 14:22:29   #
Indi Loc: Long Island, NY
 
ducwic wrote:
Does the site tell you what's in the box??
If they state there's a battery and charger, it's not original and lens caps, manuals, cables are after market, (not original) Some low-ball sellers don't even include the battery and charger.
As has been noted, the warranty is not from the Mfg.and limited.
Sooooo are you a gambler?????


I just did that little exercise as an experiment. I won't buy from them. I'm waiting for prices to come down via other sources.
Did to help the OP to make a decision.

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Mar 28, 2014 21:28:55   #
JayB Loc: Northeast US
 
Indi wrote:
I just did that little exercise as an experiment. I won't buy from them. I'm waiting for prices to come down via other sources.
Did to help the OP to make a decision.


Yes, thanks. My eyes are opened. I'll be happy with B&H. Just not the sales tax.

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Mar 28, 2014 21:46:05   #
Indi Loc: Long Island, NY
 
aerides wrote:
Yes, thanks. My eyes are opened. I'll be happy with B&H. Just not the sales tax.


If you don't live in NY, you shouldn't pay sales tax.

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Mar 28, 2014 22:11:58   #
JayB Loc: Northeast US
 
Indi wrote:
If you don't live in NY, you shouldn't pay sales tax.


I do, though.

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Mar 28, 2014 22:16:30   #
Indi Loc: Long Island, NY
 
aerides wrote:
I do, though.


Sorry!

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Aug 21, 2014 21:54:04   #
Experio
 
Be careful while shopping from 6th Ave Express. I do not trust them and made a mistake placing an order and am going through eBay Buyer Protection to get full refund and return.

I purchased a Camera and Lens Kit with Manufacturer Part No. specified by seller and a brand new unopened original box.

I also added another brand new orginal unopened lens.

I received a completely different camera box with altered labels pasted by 6th Ave and inside box contents removed and repackaged. The lenses came loose without any box in a carton without moisture or dust protection whatsoever.

I have pictures to show what they call: Brand New Unused, Unopened, Original Sealed Manufacturer Packaging.

Fortunately, I had hard statement in terms of order and also had eBay case opened promptly.

People use your own tolerance to save a bit but lose peace of mind or keep your peace of mind and buy from a trustworthy seller. This seller is fraud.

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Aug 21, 2014 22:03:58   #
DavidPine Loc: Midland, TX
 
Best just to walk away. You'll save money and time in the long run.

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Jul 12, 2015 10:34:38   #
Frame Ranger
 
"I purchased a camera with accessories from the 6th Avenue Express eBay store. I thought it was unusual that there were certain product elements missing like a plastic film on the glass LCD screen and a sealed label over the lip of the camera box. On testing the camera it proved defective. While they "stated" they would refund the camera, they have stalled for two weeks about getting the shipping label to me for the refund. eBay only keeps documentation now so you have to skip them and go directly to Paypal and your credit card company for best results. I also filed a detailed account with http://www.bbb.org/new-jersey. I am currently pursuing a refund in order that I obtain a reliable camera instead of "grey merchandise."

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Jul 13, 2015 14:07:05   #
Los-Angeles-Shooter Loc: Los Angeles
 
There's a lot to be said for dealing with honest merchants with a good track record.

Chargebacks w/ the credit card company may or may not work. I got gypped years ago by Cambridge Camera and the card company wouldn't help me. (They sold me official mfg import but delivered gray market; also added enormous unauthorized shipping/handling charges.)

The BBB is seldom of any use.

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Jul 25, 2015 10:31:23   #
ecar Loc: Oregon, USA
 
jerryc41 wrote:
Gray ( or grey) market refers to an item that was not brought in through the regular import channels. In the case of camera equipment, getting warranty work done could be a problem. Actually, getting any work done on a Nikon could be a problem because they won't service gray market items. They sell parts only to authorized dealers, so repairs could be iffy.

On the plus side, the equipment is identical to regular U. S. equipment, and you get it at a lower price. Still, I'd avoid it. Selling it could be a problem if people check the serial number with the manufacturer.

I couldn't find 6th Ave. Can you provide a link?
Gray ( or grey) market refers to an item that was ... (show quote)


I've heard the "Nikon won't touch" the grey market stuff, even for paid servicing, which to me is ludicrous!!

Glad I'm a Canon guy on that one! (correct if that's wrong)

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Jul 25, 2015 13:13:04   #
Rileychas Loc: San Diego, California
 
The question is why do the manufacturers allow the grey market to exist? Answer: they want the additional sales from low price buyers. Only the manufacturer has control over who they sell to. If they truly wanted to stop this practice they would set up strict distribution agreements and enforce them. Any middleman found selling into grey market channels would be exposed to cancellation of his distribution agreement. This is common practice among commercial and industrial manufacturers.

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Jul 25, 2015 14:13:13   #
MT Shooter Loc: Montana
 
Rileychas wrote:
If they truly wanted to stop this practice they would set up strict distribution agreements and enforce them.


That is EXACTLY why you see grey market products!
One countries distributor is responsible for that countries distribution AND warranties.
When a BUYER goes to a distributor in a third world country and buys 1000 copies of a camera, that distributor can allow for a sizeable discount on the volume sale. Its even EASIER for that distributor to discount the sale when they know they will never have to warranty and of the product failures because they know those items will be shipped overseas.
That volume buyer then puts the items in a cargo container, ships them to the country he is intending to sell them in, and sells them below market price to move them quickly and still turn a profit. The manufacturers CANNOT tell their distributors who they can or cannot sell product to as that would be in direct violation of international fair trade laws. This is a simple matter when you understand free world trade.
The authorized distributor in the country where these grey market products are sold makes no profit from those sales so they have no interest in repairing them, either under warranty or for a fee, because repairing them for a fee would bolster and increase grey market sellers, not reduce them.
Nikon Sigma, Tamron, Sony, Pentax, Olympus, and many others refuse to work on grey market products at all. Canon says is "MAY NOT" work on grey market items, even for a fee, and I have personally had repairs denied by Canon because of grey market customers gear I have sent them. I did get one camera body repaired by Canon that was grey market, but it was a brand new 5D III that a customer had installed an EF-S lens on and ruined the mirror box. The repair cost the customer $585 plus shipping both ways.
The only winner of grey market sales is the unauthorized importers. The manufacturers are losers due to the bad reputation the practice causes. The BIG losers are the consumers who buy this stuff not knowing it is grey market, or not understanding the repercussions of buying grey market.
The whole point of these discussions is to inform the consumer of those repercussions and risks. Information is power, use it and don't make costly mistakes buying grey market. Or if you do buy grey market, don't waste everyones time by snivveling about it, that will never get you anywhere.

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Jul 25, 2015 14:14:18   #
MT Shooter Loc: Montana
 
ecar wrote:
I've heard the "Nikon won't touch" the grey market stuff, even for paid servicing, which to me is ludicrous!!

Glad I'm a Canon guy on that one! (correct if that's wrong)


Yes, thats wrong.
Canon has the same policy, its just that they are much more ambiguous in saying so.

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