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Feb 17, 2014 16:06:28   #
KW Conch Loc: USA
 
pbearperry wrote:
That me be correct but how do we really know?


How do we know what ?

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Feb 17, 2014 16:07:50   #
pounder35 Loc: "Southeast of Disorder"
 
Wink44 wrote:
Noted, but lest one draw any conclusions prematurely, it might prove both interesting and enlightening (assuming one has not already done so) to read some of the many thousands of accounts of people who have died- to include some being pronounced clinically dead in the hospital operating room for several minutes or longer- who then return to life and share their experiences. Some try to rationalize this as an electro-chemical response of the brain as it shuts down, but the similarities of experiences shared certainly suggest strongly that there is more to life than just this existence at this time. Describing events in detail that took place both in and out of the operating room after their "demise" confuses those who try to rationalize the phenomenon as "normal." Encounters on the "other side" with loved ones, sometimes with people long since departed the subject hadn't even known in the subject's current life, still other beings, and indeed, other places/ destinations- not all of them particularly pleasant- would leave one to believe that there is a life beyond this plane, and that includes many experiences of people of Bro Silver's persuasion who were convinced that there is no such thing- until they experienced it for themselves. Suffice to say, you will never convince them of that following their experiences. Having said that, believe what you will-- time will soon tell.
Noted, but lest one draw any conclusions premature... (show quote)


Read "The Jericho Deception" by Jeffrey Small. It'll make you think. Relates to the direction this thread has taken. After that I read his first novel "The Breath of God". Fiction, thrillers but both good reads. Not preachy. Kind of like Brad Thor with a mix of religion. Not just Christian religion but all religions. I'm not a religious person but enjoyed both books. :thumbup:

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Feb 17, 2014 16:10:42   #
pbearperry Loc: Massachusetts
 
KW Conch wrote:
How do we know what ?


How do we know they are uneducated?

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Feb 17, 2014 16:18:55   #
magicray Loc: Tampa Bay, Florida
 
Frank T wrote:
I'm surprised none of you have theorized that it's a Muslim Snake.
That's because we all know that all Muslim's are snakes. Oh, did I generalize? 99% then.

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Feb 17, 2014 16:20:24   #
magicray Loc: Tampa Bay, Florida
 
venturer9 wrote:
Hmmmm well the fact is that my mother is dead and as far as I know she never touched a snake of any kind...

Mike
Well, that can't be true. You're here aren't you?

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Feb 17, 2014 16:23:57   #
SteveR Loc: Michigan
 
KW Conch wrote:
Steve, the problem is that he made Christians look like they are kooks. Non believers love to see things like that as it tends to bolster their argument. Please note that the snake handlers are mostly very simple uneducated people.


Just because people live in Appalachia does not mean that they are uneducated. My Dad lived 25 miles from his high school in W.Va. and got his h.s. education as did 7 of his 8 siblings. Snake handling, however, grew out of Pentecostalism in the sparsely populated hills of Appalachia. I will say, however, that the preachers were certainly not seminary graduates.

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Feb 17, 2014 16:29:58   #
magicray Loc: Tampa Bay, Florida
 
chienfou wrote:
You are so right! I guess he forgot what Jesus said to satan in the desert. Then the devil took him to the holy city and had him stand on the highest point of the temple. “If you are the Son of God,” he said, “throw yourself down. For it is written:

“‘He will command his angels concerning you,
and they will lift you up in their hands,
so that you will not strike your foot against a stone.”

7 Jesus answered him, “It is also written: ‘Do not put the Lord your God to the test”.
You are so right! I guess he forgot what Jesus sai... (show quote)

SteveR wrote:
:thumbup: :thumbup: :thumbup:


Huh? Is this some type of code or are you guys speaking in tongues all of a sudden?

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Feb 17, 2014 16:33:46   #
magicray Loc: Tampa Bay, Florida
 
Wink44 wrote:
Damn! Ol' Silver has an inside track to the Big Guy upstairs. Guess we'd better start listening to him, but wait-- he doesn't believe in the Big Guy upstairs. Won't he be surprised one day?
I don't think silver has an inside track nor does anyone else. No one will be surprised when they die. They will be DEAD. Nonexistent in ANY form.

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Feb 17, 2014 16:33:53   #
SteveR Loc: Michigan
 
magicray wrote:
Huh? Is this some type of code or are you guys speaking in tongues all of a sudden?


Ray...No, it's about tempting God. It's a quote from the Bible from the time that Jesus had gone into the wilderness, and Satan tempted him.

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Feb 17, 2014 16:38:53   #
magicray Loc: Tampa Bay, Florida
 
SteveR wrote:
Just because people live in Appalachia does not mean that they are uneducated. My Dad lived 25 miles from his high school in W.Va. and got his h.s. education as did 7 of his 8 siblings. Snake handling, however, grew out of Pentecostalism in the sparsely populated hills of Appalachia. I will say, however, that the preachers were certainly not seminary graduates.
Then they were smart.

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Feb 17, 2014 16:43:43   #
magicray Loc: Tampa Bay, Florida
 
SteveR wrote:
Ray...No, it's about tempting God. It's a quote from the Bible from the time that Jesus had gone into the wilderness, and Satan tempted him.
Who actually witnessed that encounter? Did Jesus ride the talking ass into the desert and the ass later on related the story to the prophets and bible writers? Sounds like a fable to me, but what the hell do I know? Must be a true historical event if it written in the Bible, right?

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Feb 17, 2014 16:48:31   #
SteveR Loc: Michigan
 
magicray wrote:
Who actually witnessed that encounter? Did Jesus ride the talking ass into the desert and the ass later on related the story to the prophets and bible writers? Sounds like a fable to me, but what the hell do I know? Must be a true historical event if it written in the Bible, right?


Well, Ray, let's see, Jesus was there. Do you think that it might have been remotely possible that he told this story to his disciples? This is recorded in the Gospels of Matthew, Mark, and Luke. It occurred after Jesus was Baptized by John and he went into the wilderness. Since it was recorded in three Gospels, my guess is that it was a story well known by the disciples.

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Feb 17, 2014 16:49:01   #
rhyde Loc: Little Rock, AR
 
Good biblical scholarship affirms that the Gospel of Mark ends at chapter 16, verse 8. The following verses, which mention snakes, form a later addition written to "smooth out" the abrupt ending. Either the author of the gospel intended to end it that way, or the real ending was lost. The entire practice of snake-handling, therefore, is based on a "passage" that is not found in the oldest manuscripts, and therefore is not valid. The King James includes it, but in 1611 many of the manuscripts had not yet been discovered.

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Feb 17, 2014 16:53:22   #
KW Conch Loc: USA
 
pbearperry wrote:
How do we know they are uneducated?


I've seen the show. You only have to listen to their lack of proper grammar.

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Feb 17, 2014 17:04:16   #
magicray Loc: Tampa Bay, Florida
 
KW Conch wrote:
Steve, the problem is that he made Christians look like they are kooks. Non believers love to see things like that as it tends to bolster their argument. Please note that the snake handlers are mostly very simple uneducated people.

SteveR wrote:
I must say that I'm sorry to hear that this believer has died. Although I do not believe in snake handling, he did use it as a means to spread the Gospel. I believe that he placed his faith in Jesus Christ, and we should all be sad at his passing, and not just use it as another time to discuss our differences.


I don't think you give non-believers enough credit. That's the arrogance of the Christians that think they KNOW everything.

They look down upon those who don't believe in their dogma explaining their views as though they were teaching a child's bible class and implying that they are total idiots that need to be educated.

Whose the idiot? A guy who plays with poisonous snakes because he loves Jesus in a warped way, endangering women and children and we are supposed to feel sorry for him because he was spreading 'the word'.

He got what he deserved. Christian, Jew, or Muslim, agnostic, atheist, or Rastafarian, the guy was an ass!
Just as I don't have sympathy for a suicide bomber that blows himself up by accident I have absolutely no sympathy for this dork.

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