A new section for pictures, part 2
Dec 29, 2011 09:48:20 #
To continue this thread: http://www.uglyhedgehog.com/t-7675-1.html
I'm still trying to formulate the purpose and the set of rules for the new pictures section.
The core difference between the two sections as I see it should be entertainment vs. education.
- The existing pictures section should be mostly for showing off one's shots.
- The new pictures section should be mostly for learning how to improve and for show-and-tell posts. Either asking why something specific in the photo didn't come out right, or explaining how something specific in the photo was achieved.
There will be some overlap, but the difference between the two sections should be clearly defined.
The main reason for creating the new pictures section is to make sure that posts with pictures of users seeking help with specifics of a shot don't get lost among the multitude of other pictures which get posted on the forum on a general basis.
Just to clarity. The difference between the two sections will not be (as was suggested elsewhere):
- Only positive comments vs. all honest critique.
- Editing vs. non-editing.
- Post-processing questions vs. shooting questions.
Initially, the set of rules for the new section was as follows:
I'm going to relax this and drop the absolute requirement for describing the settings. It was pointed out that sometimes it's hard to recall them much later, and I agree. So we'll go with "should" instead of "must".
The core of the rules for the new section would be something like this.
You must either:
- Ask a specific question about fixing something specific you don't like about your photo.
- Post a description of a technique you used to achieve something specific in the photo.
I'm stressing specificity over and over because I would like to avoid vague posts like: "Here is a picture of my puppy. Please tell me what I could improve." So posts with general questions like "What do you think about this photo?" should be placed in the existing pictures section. The existing pictures section is for general questions and general critique.
By contrast, the new section should contain posts like (and I'm just making stuff up here to illustrate the point):
- Why is the background too bright while the subject is too dark?
- Why is the wrong subject/background in focus instead of the main subject?
- How to make sure the highlights in the "such and such" aren't clipped?
- Why is there bluish cast on the faces?
Or something like that.
The purpose of the new section is the educational component -- to help people improve on specifics (lighting, gear, techniques, framing).
Keeping all this in mind, I'm struggling with the name for the new section.
We need a name that clearly states the purpose of the new section, so that people don't confuse the two pictures sections.
Any suggestions?
I'm still trying to formulate the purpose and the set of rules for the new pictures section.
The core difference between the two sections as I see it should be entertainment vs. education.
- The existing pictures section should be mostly for showing off one's shots.
- The new pictures section should be mostly for learning how to improve and for show-and-tell posts. Either asking why something specific in the photo didn't come out right, or explaining how something specific in the photo was achieved.
There will be some overlap, but the difference between the two sections should be clearly defined.
The main reason for creating the new pictures section is to make sure that posts with pictures of users seeking help with specifics of a shot don't get lost among the multitude of other pictures which get posted on the forum on a general basis.
Just to clarity. The difference between the two sections will not be (as was suggested elsewhere):
- Only positive comments vs. all honest critique.
- Editing vs. non-editing.
- Post-processing questions vs. shooting questions.
Initially, the set of rules for the new section was as follows:
Quote:
One solution I see is having a restrictive set of rules for the advice section.
Something like:
- Must state the settings used for taking the picture (ISO, aperture, shutter speed, any body presets).
- Must describe the lighting (sources, intensity, locations, weather, etc.).
- Must list the gear (body, lenses, etc.)
- Must ask specific questions about either improving the existing picture in post or about retaking the shot.
Any topic that is placed in the advice section without the required info/questions gets moved into the pictures section.
Something like:
- Must state the settings used for taking the picture (ISO, aperture, shutter speed, any body presets).
- Must describe the lighting (sources, intensity, locations, weather, etc.).
- Must list the gear (body, lenses, etc.)
- Must ask specific questions about either improving the existing picture in post or about retaking the shot.
Any topic that is placed in the advice section without the required info/questions gets moved into the pictures section.
I'm going to relax this and drop the absolute requirement for describing the settings. It was pointed out that sometimes it's hard to recall them much later, and I agree. So we'll go with "should" instead of "must".
The core of the rules for the new section would be something like this.
You must either:
- Ask a specific question about fixing something specific you don't like about your photo.
- Post a description of a technique you used to achieve something specific in the photo.
I'm stressing specificity over and over because I would like to avoid vague posts like: "Here is a picture of my puppy. Please tell me what I could improve." So posts with general questions like "What do you think about this photo?" should be placed in the existing pictures section. The existing pictures section is for general questions and general critique.
By contrast, the new section should contain posts like (and I'm just making stuff up here to illustrate the point):
- Why is the background too bright while the subject is too dark?
- Why is the wrong subject/background in focus instead of the main subject?
- How to make sure the highlights in the "such and such" aren't clipped?
- Why is there bluish cast on the faces?
Or something like that.
The purpose of the new section is the educational component -- to help people improve on specifics (lighting, gear, techniques, framing).
Keeping all this in mind, I'm struggling with the name for the new section.
We need a name that clearly states the purpose of the new section, so that people don't confuse the two pictures sections.
Any suggestions?
Dec 29, 2011 10:01:29 #
Dec 29, 2011 10:09:30 #
How about... Critique and Technical Advice.
And on the old tread... A Picture For You To Enjoy
Erv
And on the old tread... A Picture For You To Enjoy
Erv
Dec 29, 2011 10:12:00 #
Tech Specifics Corner, or Tech Spec Q&A - something that really calls out what you are going for, the technical, specific sort of advice and Q&A.
Love the idea, thanks.
Love the idea, thanks.
Dec 29, 2011 10:16:23 #
My suggestions:
Picture (or Photo) Gallery or Showcase for the simple display of photos
Picture (or Photo) Evaluation or Analysis for the critique, commentary, dissection of photos
Thanks for your continued efforts to the site and the group.
Picture (or Photo) Gallery or Showcase for the simple display of photos
Picture (or Photo) Evaluation or Analysis for the critique, commentary, dissection of photos
Thanks for your continued efforts to the site and the group.
Dec 29, 2011 10:17:44 #
donrent
Loc: Punta Gorda , Fl
How about- #1 "Pictures For Discussion"...
#2 "Critique And Recommend"....
#3 "Your Improvement Ideas"....
#2 "Critique And Recommend"....
#3 "Your Improvement Ideas"....
Dec 29, 2011 10:26:46 #
Pepper
Loc: Planet Earth Country USA
rocco_7155 wrote:
My suggestions:
Picture (or Photo) Gallery or Showcase for the simple display of photos
Picture (or Photo) Evaluation or Analysis for the critique, commentary, dissection of photos
Thanks for your continued efforts to the site and the group.
Picture (or Photo) Gallery or Showcase for the simple display of photos
Picture (or Photo) Evaluation or Analysis for the critique, commentary, dissection of photos
Thanks for your continued efforts to the site and the group.
:thumbup:
Dec 29, 2011 10:49:31 #
One thing I'm learning about this photo forum is that there is no shortage of answers or opinions. It goes to show chocolate pudding isn't for everyone, and every one has a specicic eye for art.
Dec 29, 2011 10:59:35 #
Yes I like Rocco_7155's suggestion of "Showcase" for the current Picture section... I think most users will pick up on what is to be posted in there.
Dec 29, 2011 11:13:06 #
Dec 29, 2011 11:27:39 #
Dec 30, 2011 02:40:54 #
I think it should be kept the way it is now, it's going to become too confusing to many people, and others will simply ignore it.
Dec 30, 2011 02:43:21 #
I also predict there will be endless threads and posts discussing why people are not adhering to the new picture sections.
Dec 30, 2011 02:46:51 #
Dec 30, 2011 02:55:25 #
Already there seems to be confusion, as evidenced by suggestions for naming the different sections. The Administrator stated that the existing section would be for general critique and comments. The new section would be for specific questions regarding the posted pictures.
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