Funny thing while researching this question I found out it's illegal to take photographs on military bases. I can't tell you how many times I've done that here. I love taking photos of the boneyard etc. And here I thought I didn't break any laws LOL.
Here is an article you may or may not find informative, there are links at the bottom of the page for a pdf download on photographers rights and responsibilities.
http://www.bobatkins.com/photography/tutorials/photography_law_rights.html
dirtpusher wrote:
here a tid bit
Yes ! We have those posted all over the airport ! AOPA sends a kit !! We have had people call the local police upon seeing someone on airport property....one of them turned out to be the person that broke into the maintenance hanger and stole some tools !
Folks are touchy about their privacy and some aircraft owners are trying to be very secretive about their operations. That being said,
if you were not standing on the airport property, he has no right to tell you to stop taking pictures unless it has been designated a secure area. I'd agree that the proper thing to do is ask the airport or FBO manager for permission to take pictures on his property and ask the individual aircraft owner the same. If it was a truly private airport [not taking federal or state funding] instead of a public airport, he was within his rights to run you off...not so at a public airport. Truly "private" airports are a rare thing nowadays.
Airport managers frequently overstep their bounds in the name of whatever they can think up. News crews frequently run into this problem and the airport managers quickly retreat instead of being sued by a news organization if the crew is within their rights.
@nywebb... you have made it clear that many pilots are anti FAA. When most of these airman get themselves into a jam, the first person they call is an FAA Air Traffic Controller to save their a**. Many times each day the hard working Controllers of the FAA's Air Traffic Services help pilots that are lost, encountering severe weather, minimum/emergency fuel situations, or just plain screwed up. I'll agree 100% that most other divsions of the FAA are as useless as most government agencies, but the FAA and Federal Contract Controllers are a dedicated group of folks!
RPMustang wrote:
@nywebb... you have made it clear that many pilots are anti FAA. When most of these airman get themselves into a jam, the first person they call is an FAA Air Traffic Controller to save their a**. Many times each day the hard working Controllers of the FAA's Air Traffic Services help pilots that are lost, encountering severe weather, minimum/emergency fuel situations, or just plain screwed up. I'll agree 100% that most other divsions of the FAA are as useless as most government agencies, but the FAA and Federal Contract Controllers are a dedicated group of folks!
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No one ever said controllers are bad people. I have close friends that are controllers. Employees of the FAA are code enforcers, ATC helps us out...that's why they're there, and most are good people. But I can see as a pilot I'm in the minority, soooo....I'm outta here.
I shoot a lot of airplanes. When I get to a small private airstrip I always introduce myself, ask to photograph the airplanes and have never been turned away.
Walking around the hangers I stop to talk to the owners who are always happy to show you their airplanes, some will even let you go inside the plane for cockpit shots.
Stop shooting through the fence and go introduce yourself.
Some of my airplane photographs are below.
Cessna
Cessna 195
Corsair
Being new to going professional, I was curious at to what I could shoot. So I went on line and asked the question.
Here is a sample of what I found!
http://www.krages.com/phoright.htm
Surveillance of private aircraft is particularly unnerving! You did good to walk away. Would not be wise to stand your ground as another stated, as it could bring the next level of security to your stand. Why not approach the parties that be and ask permission to get a nice shot of that aircraft. That would not bring suspicion on your intent. 911 has changed the environment of these things!
dirtpusher wrote:
Terry Scott Reed wrote:
He was wrong to ask, but you were right to comply and "live to shoot another day." (assuming you were on public land)
Regarding thefts, and terrorism in general, are there any proven links or stats that show a connection between photography and criminal or terroristic acts out there? I don't know of any. I'm not a crook, probably don't think like one, either, but I don't think I'd see any merit in a photo of a plane I intended to steal. What could I possibly learn? Regarding tail number, if I'm stealing it, what do I care who owns it, and couldn't I just write the number down, and attract a lot less attention? Educate a niave one, UHH-ers!
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what he should have done was gone to the fob an asked permission we run people off all time that dont have that respect. people steal parts there all kinds of reasons now days wasn't like that back in the 60's 70's an 80's parts wind up on ebay but the thieves dont realize each part has a staped number on them an each part put on a plane has to be recorded in that planes log book. each log book stays with that plane till it if ever it gets scraped. thats how we catch the ebay thieves.one guy we busted had several photographs on computer an print telling where those planes are. we run anbody off we have doughts about. cut an dried. what would you do if some guy drove up to youre house started takin pictures. if you ask thats a different story an you explain what youre wanting to do bet you ask him who he is an lil more about him. parts of airports are public an parts are not. terry to say he was wrong i agree to disagree with that statement. airport are being paid to protect thier coustomers property. if you be stupid with him we will do all we can to have way more information about that person than he will want us to know. airports are goverened by the f.a.a. thats... FEDERAL... aviation aminastration. feds can wind up on youre door stoop if we mark it suspecious.
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Thats FBO ( Fixed Base Operator) ....I as a airport manager,do not like people wondering around the airport for security reasons,nor do my tenents...HOWEVER...if some one comes up to me and tells me what is going on and what they would like to do,I do not have a problem with that...a also tell them to ask permission before ever going into someones hangar and take pictures ! You'll find that most aircraft owners will be happy to talk to you and let you take pictures...just ask ! You never know if someone is casing the place out for a ripoff and thats what we are concerned about.
chris
just walking into a hangar unannouced will get someone under youre shirt collar real quick
I'll add my two cents. Having worked for Piper Aircraft Corp. in Lock Haven, PA, for 21 years the aircraft registration number (tail number) was refered to as the "N" number of the aircraft.
After 9-11 the world of airports really turned sour.Large airports you can just forget they're there...unless you are going to fly some where ,you can't even get close..and God forbid you stop to look at an airplane for a second without some TCA officer walking toward you with his hand on his gun...and even small airports have people ,citizens,watching them.I can remember before 9-11 going up to the tower at GRR ( Grand Rapids International) and talking to the controlers on a slow day or night and having a blast up there ....not anymore ! We try to welcome the public,but we have to be cautious too.
Best time to get hassel free airplane pictures is to find and go to a Fly-In next summer ! No problems there !!
chris
Our Airport ,5Y2
dirtpusher wrote:
since 1937
Thats when our airport was dedicated ! 75 years this summer !
chris
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