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Nov 8, 2013 09:40:32   #
Screamin Scott Loc: Marshfield Wi, Baltimore Md, now Dallas Ga
 
OEM stands for "Original Equipment Manufacturer"...Thus Canon's brand of batteries are "OEM"...Sure you don't mean aftermarket ?
Crwiwy wrote:
I have both Canon and OEM batteries - the only one that has failed to date is the genuine Canon one that came with the camera! The OEMs came from firms that appear reputable - with good feedback - and a guarantee.

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Nov 8, 2013 09:45:02   #
Screamin Scott Loc: Marshfield Wi, Baltimore Md, now Dallas Ga
 
Was the spare an OEM battery?... Look at the batteries carefully, do they appear identical?...It is possible for one to be more spent than the other since I'm sure you replaced & recharged them before they were totally drained & depending, they may have been at different levels of charge when you did so. Did you by chance leave one of them on the charger overnight?
Bear2 wrote:
Very interesting!!!
I bought a new Nikon D7000 from my local camera shop about two years ago, Camera Mart. Before departing for Ireland, I bought a spare EL-EN15 battery from Best Buy. No issues. My camera now has over 12,000 shutter activations, and I always rotate batteries, inserting a charged battery and putting the one removed into the charger.
Now one battery put into the camera shows it is just a hair off of new, while the other shows well over a quarter consumed. Unfortunately I do not know which one came with the camera, and which one came from Best Buy in a Nikon package. I believe the D7000 was the first camera to use the EN-EL15 battery so either one should not be 'Old". Anyone else notice this? Duane
Very interesting!!! br I bought a new Nikon D7000 ... (show quote)

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Nov 8, 2013 10:04:47   #
klaus Loc: Guatemala City, Guatemala
 
MT Shooter wrote:
In a current discussion there is raised the issue of counterfeit batteries. Nikon and Canon BOTH have a big issue with Chinese manufacturers making generic batteries and passing them off as genuine. This is a big issue with manufacturers as genuine batteries can get quite pricey.
I happen to possess a counterfeit Nikon EN-EL 15 battery and am posting pics here in hopes some UHH users will garner some education from them.
The majority of counterfeit batteries I have seen are sold as Nikon EN-EL 15, Nikon EN-EL 14, and Canon LP-E6. The counterfeit Canons are VERY hard to spot but the counterfeit Nikons have tell-tale signs, specifically if you have a genuine copy to compare it to side-by-side.
Ebay and Amazon are FULL of these counterfeits, most of which also come with paperwork and boxes that appear genuine, but are not. These counterfeits are typically of much poorer quality than even the batteries openly sold as off-brand "compatible" batteries.
If you truly want GENUINE factory issued batteries, stick with authorized sellers, not bargain dealers trying to dupe bargain hunting buyers.
Good luck and I hope this helps some of you.
In a current discussion there is raised the issue ... (show quote)


Yes, MT-Shooter and I had this conversation a little while ago when I had thought that I had gotten a great deal on a "genuine" Nikon battery.

I did a little bit of research and unfortunately Nikon counterfeit products are not limited to batteries but also battery packs, remote controls and chargers.

Nikon is aware of the problem and has a comprehensive list of known counterfeit items and their tell-tale signs on their asian website (see link!).

http://nikonasia-en.custhelp.com/app/answers/detail/a_id/1518

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Nov 8, 2013 10:18:43   #
MT Shooter Loc: Montana
 
klaus wrote:
Yes, MT-Shooter and I had this conversation a little while ago when I had thought that I had gotten a great deal on a "genuine" Nikon battery.

I did a little bit of research and unfortunately Nikon counterfeit products are not limited to batteries but also battery packs, remote controls and chargers.

Nikon is aware of the problem and has a comprehensive list of known counterfeit items and their tell-tale signs on their asian website (see link!).

http://nikonasia-en.custhelp.com/app/answers/detail/a_id/1518
Yes, MT-Shooter and I had this conversation a litt... (show quote)


Canons counterfeit warning site:
http://www.usa.canon.com/cusa/support/consumer?pageKeyCode=prdAdvDetail&docId=0901e0248004cc7e

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Nov 8, 2013 10:50:23   #
Rip Tragle Loc: Estes Park, CO
 
It's a crap shoot on aftermarket batteries. But, for the most part I
have had very few bad aftermarket batteries... and the good ones were as
good as the name brand.

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Nov 8, 2013 10:52:44   #
Bear2 Loc: Southeast,, MI
 
Just checked as suggested above. The best battery, (still showing new), says Sony in the upper right hand corner. The other battery (over a quarter used) shows Nikon. Neither battery ever went below 40%, and removed from charger when cool. Thanks for all your valued responses.
Duane

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Nov 8, 2013 11:34:25   #
Pentony Loc: Earth Traveller
 
MT Shooter wrote:

I appreciate your attempt to help us but your post left me confused.
It would have helped if the OEM and the counterfeit were shown side by side in the same photo and each labeled.

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Nov 8, 2013 11:35:57   #
klaus Loc: Guatemala City, Guatemala
 
Rip Tragle wrote:
It's a crap shoot on aftermarket batteries. But, for the most part I
have had very few bad aftermarket batteries... and the good ones were as
good as the name brand.


I think a lot of people don't understand that this thread is not about aftermarket but COUNTERFEIT batteries. I too have bought aftermarket items, knowing that it was NOT the genuine article, fully aware of the chance that I was taking.

These counterfeit batteries come in a (fake) gold & black Nikon box with (fake) Nikon instructions, have the name Nikon (not "for Nikon") stamped on it and all the correct markings including the hologram that Nikon puts on their batteries to prevent the counterfeiting their products.

The real issue here is that unscrupulous sellers on ebay and Amazon are advertising and selling these batteries as the real thing and that is called FRAUD!

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Nov 8, 2013 11:46:49   #
Screamin Scott Loc: Marshfield Wi, Baltimore Md, now Dallas Ga
 
I just sent an email to Nikon support as , by viewing the images, my battery isn't genuine even though it is from an authorized seller. I will post their response. BTW, the EN-EL15 battery did not appear in the drop down box under accessories but I specified it in the body of my message...

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Nov 8, 2013 11:49:15   #
tequilacvx Loc: Sarasota, FL
 
I use CANON t2i, 60D and SX50 cameras. My experience with third-party batteries and chargers has been horrible. Used third-party chargers for genuine CANON batteries and in one instance, it overheated and shorted the battery. Darn near burned out. Have used third-party batteries on genuine CANON chargers and the batteries do not show condition of charge (low, med. full).

Now for reliability (and good battery life), I always stick to the genuine CANON products. Don't chance a disaster with third-party chargers and batteries when using CANON cameras.

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Nov 8, 2013 12:38:38   #
Screamin Scott Loc: Marshfield Wi, Baltimore Md, now Dallas Ga
 
Bear in mind that Canon doesn't make their own batteries. They subcontract them out. Thus your experience isn't indicative of everyone's. After all those subcontractors who make Canon's batteries for them can just as easily make another battery with basically the same specs as long as the exterior isn't the same...I have used aftermarket batteries in several Nikon DSLR's from the D70s, D300 & D7100 without incident...
tequilacvx wrote:
I use CANON t2i, 60D and SX50 cameras. My experience with third-party batteries and chargers has been horrible. Used third-party chargers for genuine CANON batteries and in one instance, it overheated and shorted the battery. Darn near burned out. Have used third-party batteries on genuine CANON chargers and the batteries do not show condition of charge (low, med. full).

Now for reliability (and good battery life), I always stick to the genuine CANON products. Don't chance a disaster with third-party chargers and batteries when using CANON cameras.
I use CANON t2i, 60D and SX50 cameras. My experi... (show quote)

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Nov 8, 2013 16:32:09   #
Bloke Loc: Waynesboro, Pennsylvania
 
Crwiwy wrote:
I have both Canon and OEM batteries - the only one that has failed to date is the genuine Canon one that came with the camera! The OEMs came from firms that appear reputable - with good feedback - and a guarantee.


I have bought after-market batteries for both my cameras (both canons). They are not counterfeit, but sold as 'compatible'. Both sets have higher amp/hour rates than the original canon batteries. I think the manufacturers themselves are causing the counterfeit problem by charging such ridiculous prices. For my P&S, Canon wanted nearly $40 for a battery. I bought 2 higher-capacity Halcyon batteries for it, and paid less than $10 for the pair, *plus* a car charger! I cannot see how the 'real' ones can be *that* much better.

I understand that their equipment, cameras, lenses, and so on are built to a high quality standard, but how much difference in quality can there be in a battery?

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Nov 8, 2013 17:03:48   #
JCam Loc: MD Eastern Shore
 
At last, a man with an answer that rings true to me; Cheaper price & better results! To bad the OEM's are not listening.

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Nov 8, 2013 19:23:12   #
CHOLLY Loc: THE FLORIDA PANHANDLE!
 
^^^Sometimes.

Other times buying "compatible" batteries is a crap shoot.

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Nov 8, 2013 21:33:54   #
Bloke Loc: Waynesboro, Pennsylvania
 
CHOLLY wrote:
^^^Sometimes.

Other times buying "compatible" batteries is a crap shoot.


I realise that, and to be fair, I have only had the P&S ones for a couple of weeks. I have used one, but I don't think I have used the other yet. The ones for the SX50 I haven't used at all.

I just feel that Canon is pushing the pricing envelope with their name-brand batteries is all. If they sold them for half the price they currently charge, they would sell a whole bunch more of them, and I can't believe that they still wouldn't be making a decent per-unit profit.

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