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Dec 2, 2011 01:58:42   #
tainkc Loc: Kansas City
 
This is very frustrating. I thought that I had a great idea. I put this stuff together thinking that it would be cool. I liked the lighting but I would have liked less shadows. And to me, like me, it's kind of boring. I know the 60's were good to me but do I really lack that much imagination? I need to learn- quick! Statistically I only have about 20 years left. Please assist me.

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Dec 2, 2011 02:18:14   #
saside Loc: live in pueblo co
 
since you have twenty years..... I don't think I could do a good still life with out help. but I'd suggest looking on line at the old master pieces of still life and learn from them.from placement, lighting, number of objects, colors, how were they placed in the frame.

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Dec 2, 2011 02:34:28   #
tainkc Loc: Kansas City
 
saside wrote:
since you have twenty years..... I don't think I could do a good still life with out help. but I'd suggest looking on line at the old master pieces of still life and learn from them.from placement, lighting, number of objects, colors, how were they placed in the frame.
Yeah, I've been looking at books and stuff. I am persistent though. I finally got my colors right on my printer. Now if I can only get them to print as bright as they are on my monitor. So maybe I will get some where with my still life.

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Dec 2, 2011 04:25:49   #
saside Loc: live in pueblo co
 
I assume you have your monitor calibrated

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Dec 2, 2011 10:15:49   #
tainkc Loc: Kansas City
 
saside wrote:
I assume you have your monitor calibrated
Yep.

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Dec 2, 2011 10:25:05   #
tilde531 Loc: Seaford Delaware
 
The color tones are too close to one another to provide any contrast or "oomph".
And the lighting needs to be upped.

This is only being offered because you said that to YOU this is a boring composition.

I think what drew you to these particular objects is their varied textures (I applaud your vision in that regard :thumbup: )... but because you've placed them against a similarly textured background, the textures just all mingle too much to stand out.
Instead of supporting each other, they blend together.

And again, the subjects are all on one plane... nothing to make any of them visually separate from other objects.

Don't sell yourself so short...you have vision and recognize interesting subjects naturally. You have an eye for textures that many don't have... you'll get there!! :)

You could place maybe the bananas on a brightly colored plate, or replace ONE thing with an object that offers a pop of color... or edit the number of unifying textures to maybe three... any number of small changes could get you where you want to be with this one.

And btw- I like the composition of #2 much better than #1... you're developing a good eye for arrangement.

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Dec 2, 2011 11:01:07   #
rocco_7155 Loc: Connecticut/Louisiana
 
tilde531 wrote:
The color tones are too close to one another to provide any contrast or "oomph".
And the lighting needs to be upped.

This is only being offered because you said that to YOU this is a boring composition.

I think what drew you to these particular objects is their varied textures (I applaud your vision in that regard :thumbup: )... but because you've placed them against a similarly textured background, the textures just all mingle too much to stand out.
Instead of supporting each other, they blend together.

And again, the subjects are all on one plane... nothing to make any of them visually separate from other objects.

Don't sell yourself so short...you have vision and recognize interesting subjects naturally. You have an eye for textures that many don't have... you'll get there!! :)

You could place maybe the bananas on a brightly colored plate, or replace ONE thing with an object that offers a pop of color... or edit the number of unifying textures to maybe three... any number of small changes could get you where you want to be with this one.

And btw- I like the composition of #2 much better than #1... you're developing a good eye for arrangement.
The color tones are too close to one another to pr... (show quote)


Tilde hit the main point....its too monochromatic....vary your colors and tones to get the light to pop and absorb in a variety of ways. Light from either 45 degree angle and reflect from the opposite side.

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Dec 2, 2011 11:16:17   #
the_imaginist Loc: St. Louis, MO
 
I think you need to change the height of one or two of objects, maybe try a dark colored piece of fabric to set up something underneath them.

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Dec 2, 2011 11:38:55   #
tainkc Loc: Kansas City
 
tilde531 wrote:
The color tones are too close to one another to provide any contrast or "oomph".
And the lighting needs to be upped.

This is only being offered because you said that to YOU this is a boring composition.

I think what drew you to these particular objects is their varied textures (I applaud your vision in that regard :thumbup: )... but because you've placed them against a similarly textured background, the textures just all mingle too much to stand out.
Instead of supporting each other, they blend together. Thanks Tilde. I thought about putting the balls on top of an orange heat pad and I do have a low profile decorative plate that I thought of using for the bananas. I shot this on the kitchen counter. There is a cabinet right above my subject which has an embedded halogen light on the bottom. This was my inspiration for shooting there. You are right about being too monochromatic. On my previous post some one mentioned that my light levels were a bit to the red. So I toned it down a bit. Being red/green colorblind, this does present its' own problems. LOL. Actually, not funny. LOL. I guess I over compensated. You gave me an idea. I will try again tonight.

And again, the subjects are all on one plane... nothing to make any of them visually separate from other objects.

Don't sell yourself so short...you have vision and recognize interesting subjects naturally. You have an eye for textures that many don't have... you'll get there!! :)

You could place maybe the bananas on a brightly colored plate, or replace ONE thing with an object that offers a pop of color... or edit the number of unifying textures to maybe three... any number of small changes could get you where you want to be with this one.

And btw- I like the composition of #2 much better than #1... you're developing a good eye for arrangement.
The color tones are too close to one another to pr... (show quote)

This is how I started.
This is how I started....

Then this.
Then this....

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Dec 2, 2011 11:40:46   #
tainkc Loc: Kansas City
 
tilde531 wrote:
The color tones are too close to one another to provide any contrast or "oomph".
And the lighting needs to be upped.

This is only being offered because you said that to YOU this is a boring composition.

I think what drew you to these particular objects is their varied textures (I applaud your vision in that regard :thumbup: )... but because you've placed them against a similarly textured background, the textures just all mingle too much to stand out.
Instead of supporting each other, they blend together. Thanks Tilde. I thought about putting the balls on top of an orange heat pad and I do have a low profile decorative plate that I thought of using for the bananas. I shot this on the kitchen counter. There is a cabinet right above my subject which has an embedded halogen light on the bottom. This was my inspiration for shooting there. You are right about being too monochromatic. On my previous post some one mentioned that my light levels were a bit to the red. So I toned it down a bit. Being red/green colorblind, this does present its' own problems. LOL. Actually, not funny. LOL. I guess I over compensated. You gave me an idea. I will try again tonight.


And again, the subjects are all on one plane... nothing to make any of them visually separate from other objects.

Don't sell yourself so short...you have vision and recognize interesting subjects naturally. You have an eye for textures that many don't have... you'll get there!! :)

You could place maybe the bananas on a brightly colored plate, or replace ONE thing with an object that offers a pop of color... or edit the number of unifying textures to maybe three... any number of small changes could get you where you want to be with this one.

And btw- I like the composition of #2 much better than #1... you're developing a good eye for arrangement.
The color tones are too close to one another to pr... (show quote)

This is how I started.
This is how I started....

Then this.
Then this....

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Dec 2, 2011 11:44:25   #
tainkc Loc: Kansas City
 
tainkc wrote:
tilde531 wrote:
The color tones are too close to one another to provide any contrast or "oomph".
And the lighting needs to be upped.

This is only being offered because you said that to YOU this is a boring composition.

I think what drew you to these particular objects is their varied textures (I applaud your vision in that regard :thumbup: )... but because you've placed them against a similarly textured background, the textures just all mingle too much to stand out.
Instead of supporting each other, they blend together. Thanks Tilde. I thought about putting the balls on top of an orange heat pad and I do have a low profile decorative plate that I thought of using for the bananas. I shot this on the kitchen counter. There is a cabinet right above my subject which has an embedded halogen light on the bottom. This was my inspiration for shooting there. You are right about being too monochromatic. On my previous post some one mentioned that my light levels were a bit to the red. So I toned it down a bit. Being red/green colorblind, this does present its' own problems. LOL. Actually, not funny. LOL. I guess I over compensated. You gave me an idea. I will try again tonight.


And again, the subjects are all on one plane... nothing to make any of them visually separate from other objects.

Don't sell yourself so short...you have vision and recognize interesting subjects naturally. You have an eye for textures that many don't have... you'll get there!! :)

You could place maybe the bananas on a brightly colored plate, or replace ONE thing with an object that offers a pop of color... or edit the number of unifying textures to maybe three... any number of small changes could get you where you want to be with this one.

And btw- I like the composition of #2 much better than #1... you're developing a good eye for arrangement.
The color tones are too close to one another to pr... (show quote)
quote=tilde531 The color tones are too close to o... (show quote)
My quoted replies have not been showing up lately when I send secondary pix. I do not know why. This is the reason for my double post. Sorry.

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Dec 2, 2011 11:46:09   #
tainkc Loc: Kansas City
 
tilde531 wrote:
The color tones are too close to one another to provide any contrast or "oomph".
And the lighting needs to be upped.

This is only being offered because you said that to YOU this is a boring composition.

I think what drew you to these particular objects is their varied textures (I applaud your vision in that regard :thumbup: )... but because you've placed them against a similarly textured background, the textures just all mingle too much to stand out.
Instead of supporting each other, they blend together. Thanks Tilde. I thought about putting the balls on top of an orange heat pad and I do have a low profile decorative plate that I thought of using for the bananas. I shot this on the kitchen counter. There is a cabinet right above my subject which has an embedded halogen light on the bottom. This was my inspiration for shooting there. You are right about being too monochromatic. On my previous post some one mentioned that my light levels were a bit to the red. So I toned it down a bit. Being red/green colorblind, this does present its' own problems. LOL. Actually, not funny. LOL. I guess I over compensated. You gave me an idea. I will try again tonight.


And again, the subjects are all on one plane... nothing to make any of them visually separate from other objects.

Don't sell yourself so short...you have vision and recognize interesting subjects naturally. You have an eye for textures that many don't have... you'll get there!! :)

You could place maybe the bananas on a brightly colored plate, or replace ONE thing with an object that offers a pop of color... or edit the number of unifying textures to maybe three... any number of small changes could get you where you want to be with this one.

And btw- I like the composition of #2 much better than #1... you're developing a good eye for arrangement.
The color tones are too close to one another to pr... (show quote)

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Dec 2, 2011 11:48:55   #
tainkc Loc: Kansas City
 
Now I see it. My replies are just blended in with your respnse, Tilde. Sorry guys. Tom

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Dec 2, 2011 12:05:36   #
tainkc Loc: Kansas City
 
rocco_7155 wrote:
tilde531 wrote:
The color tones are too close to one another to provide any contrast or "oomph".
And the lighting needs to be upped.

This is only being offered because you said that to YOU this is a boring composition.

I think what drew you to these particular objects is their varied textures (I applaud your vision in that regard :thumbup: )... but because you've placed them against a similarly textured background, the textures just all mingle too much to stand out.
Instead of supporting each other, they blend together. Thanks Rocco, I do believe that you are right. Like I told Tilde, I am going to try again tonight.

And again, the subjects are all on one plane... nothing to make any of them visually separate from other objects.

Don't sell yourself so short...you have vision and recognize interesting subjects naturally. You have an eye for textures that many don't have... you'll get there!! :)

You could place maybe the bananas on a brightly colored plate, or replace ONE thing with an object that offers a pop of color... or edit the number of unifying textures to maybe three... any number of small changes could get you where you want to be with this one.

And btw- I like the composition of #2 much better than #1... you're developing a good eye for arrangement.
The color tones are too close to one another to pr... (show quote)


Tilde hit the main point....its too monochromatic....vary your colors and tones to get the light to pop and absorb in a variety of ways. Light from either 45 degree angle and reflect from the opposite side.
quote=tilde531 The color tones are too close to o... (show quote)

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Dec 3, 2011 08:17:25   #
LWH Loc: Nebraska
 
To lessen the shadows: 1) move the subject out from the wall, and 2) use a larger aperture to reduce the DOF, which will keep your subject in sharp focus but blur the background.

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