ocbeyer Loc: Baltimore

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ocbeyer Loc: Baltimore

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ocbeyer Loc: Baltimore

What does it say for your position when you resort to ad hominem arguments? Usually one of two things: your position is unsupportable or you lack the facts to support it.

cudakite Loc: San Antonio

OMG, Peter-the-hater has been cloned, how fun. =D Oh! Perhaps they can get together to despise all things American and ponder how wonderful radical muslims are as they pronounce "ad hominem" in loving unison to the tune of the Iranian national anthem. Haters are so amusing! =)

cudakite Loc: San Antonio

Hilarious! Same expression on their kissers as the new self-gazer above! Kool!!

ocbeyer Loc: Baltimore

You're not for real, right? I mean, people like you don't really exist. Just some sort of 'bot that roams the internet pretending to be human but not quite pulling it off. Like most computers, no sense of nuance or subtlety. Too giddy with self-importance, yet not fully self-aware. I have to admit though, science has come a long way. Almost had me fooled that something intelligent really was there. For a second.

TrainNut Loc: Ridin' the rails

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charlie Loc: Minneapolis, Minnesota

You're really Petey aren't you?? You can't fool us, we're on to you. :x

hominems are too dry for my yankee tastes. hash browns are better.

ocbeyer Loc: Baltimore

Maybe a little peaty. But certainly not Petey.

SteveR Loc: Michigan

Mr. Beyer....You've noticed that characteristic of leftist liberal writings as well!!

PNagy Loc: Missouri City, Texas

After the decimation committed by Israel, there can be no viable independent Palestinian state. It would be the second coming of the Bantustans. Illegal settlements have taken the best lands. These, along with the Jews-only access roads utterly fragment the West Bank into world class discontinuity. Please find a map of the "Security Fence." Its very shape and extent will demonstrate that its real purpose is to steal even more Palestinian land. It meanders back and forth to isolate Palestinian communities near the Israeli border in order to force the residents to flee, thus handing even more of the 22% of Palestine that the Jews have not yet stolen. It even goes the entire length of the Jordanian border, making the remnants of Palestine nothing more than the world's largest outdoor prison. Moreover, Israel has already gone through the pretense of allowing Palestinian "autonomy," which is really nothing more than shifting bothersome daily duties of government to them while maintaining hegemony. The IDF routinely violates Palestinian borders and Palestinian air space.

It is time to recognize that Israel's violations of UN Resolutions 181, 194, and 242 has made Israel the hegemonic power over all that used to be Palestine. "Throwing the Jews into the sea" is an utterly impracticable solution, thus nothing more than Israeli rhetoric to justify their atrocities. The Palestinians are the Helots of Israel; permanent residents without any significant political rights, and certainly no viable citizenship.

It is time to dismantle Israel and reconstitute it not as a Jewish state or a Palestinian state, but a state for all its people. It should be reconstituted as a unitary state that protects the civil and religious rights of all its inhabitants similar to the manner in which the US finally accepted the Indians it had not killed. "The Jewish State" is a racist concept, just as the "Protestant State would be had that been imposed over the US. There is no room for Bantustans or Helots in en enlightened world.

PNagy Loc: Missouri City, Texas

You are a mindless idiot and a mendacious one too. You wrote a very long pseudo scholarly piece of garbage refuting what you insisted I had said, which I never said. I answered it point for point. You are now flat on your back in total defeat, still slinging your idiotic vitriol. It reminds me of two morons, one in my own life, and another in the biography of Fredrick Douglass who after badly losing a fight said to the winer, "You don't want me to whip you again like I just did, do you?" My mind is not lost, and yours barely exists to be lost.

Brucej67 Loc: Cary, NC

Nazi.

PNagy Loc: Missouri City, Texas

"Wow you really have lost your mind this time. I disagree with you on numerous occasions and sometimes I agree with you. However, none of what you just wrote is even close to the truth.

You tend to over estimate your intelligence and try to bluster your way through most discussions. My understanding of history comes from having lived through it."


The only reference to historical knowldge I have made is in noting that you would have to look up if the Whigs were against slavery or not. That gave evidence of how little history you know, not how much I know. I merely refer to it and quote the references when one of you righties has the nerve to pretend I have made it up.

Nor have I said anything about my intelligence. If you refer to it, you must have concluded that I am highly intelligent, but resist the conclusion, because I do not spout your righties mantras, like trickle down economics, tax cuts for the wealth creating jobs for others, toxic sludge is good for us, and global warming is a fabricated scare invented by leftist scientists just to harass Christ-like corporations and make huge profits for Al Gore. Thus, instead of admitting what you have actually observed, you morph it into how intelligent I think I am. Just stick to the merits of a case and you will embarrass yourself less; not one of these threads has been about how much I know and how intelligent I am.

I will make one comment about my knowledge and intelligence, since it is of such concern to you rightists: However paltry either may be, it is still above what the likes of you can correct: that is why you corrected not what I had written but what you obdurately pretended I had written.

ocbeyer Loc: Baltimore

Of course I have. But on this forum the Right certainly owns the defamatory field. As it does at large. And on this particulat thread, it is no contest. Some are not doing their conservative comrades a service.