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Jun 13, 2013 06:15:06   #
Millismote Loc: Massachusetts
 
Dbl00buk wrote:
I bought a Black Rapid RS – 7 and have been using it for about 3 months. While resting on a bench in a theme park with my D800 and the Black Rapid attached, another photog enthusiasts sat next to me. He asked me how I liked the strap and I responded with very favorable comments. He mentioned to me that he also bought the same strap, but heard of tripod attachment failures, whereas the camera body connecting plate, buckled under the load. Since I'm not familiar with the anatomy of the D 800 and its bottom connection points in relation to the tripod screw does this sound possible? On another forum, a member contacted Nikon regarding this issue and they highly recommended not using the tripod screw mount for anything other than a tripod.
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I have been using the Cotten Carrier system for almost 4 years now.I have used it with my 50D and 24-105 lens and now with my 6D and 300mm lens. A fixture screws into the camera tripod socket and the fits into a socket on the Cotten Carrier. I always use the camera straps as a backup. So far, no failures of the system.

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Jun 13, 2013 06:25:08   #
Hankwt Loc: kingsville ontario
 
I know MT uses the Dual Strap from Op Tech what would you recommend to the members here on UHH that only want to carry a single camera-- The Optech Utility Strap Sling ??

PS is that 1 of your cameras in the picture ???

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Jun 13, 2013 06:41:16   #
TimS Loc: GA
 
MT Shooter wrote:
That could not be simpler. The manufacturers engineer the tripod socket to hold the weight of the camera in a downward, compressed fashion, with the weight of the camera "static" upon the head, same as on a monopod. The use of the camera in portrait mode puts the weight in a "shear" direction, again as the engineering intended. What the manufacturers did not intend was for the tripod socket to carry that load upside down and bouncing around all day. The "shock weight" of the camera and lens in this position when bouncing along could easily exceed 10 times the actual weight of the camera and MUCH more than the tripod socket was designed to handle in that fashion.
Depending upon the care of the owner that failure could happen soon, or it could happen later, or there is the possibility that, with proper diligence, it may never happen. But the question is, are you willing to risk your favorite expensive camera and lens on one little 1/4" screw that sells for 8 cents in the hardware store???? Not me!
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What are your thoughts on doing this with pro bodies? No plastic to fail.

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Jun 13, 2013 07:05:41   #
berchman Loc: South Central PA
 
I have carried two cameras at a time on CameraSlingers strap. I have carried these on trips of three weeks, walking everywhere with the cameras dangling. Never any problems. The straps are screwed into RSS L brackets which in turn are screwed into the tripod attachment hole. The two cameras are Nikons, the D700 and the D800 with pro quality lenses.

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Jun 13, 2013 07:28:11   #
MT Shooter Loc: Montana
 
Hankwt wrote:
I know MT uses the Dual Strap from Op Tech what would you recommend to the members here on UHH that only want to carry a single camera-- The Optech Utility Strap Sling ??

PS is that 1 of your cameras in the picture ???


I use both the OpTech Utility Sling and Pro Loop Strap. depending upon the need, and the Double Sling for carrying two cameras at once. All the OpTech straps are interchangeable so I never have to change the attachments on the cameras, just unbuckle one style strap and buckle on the other, takes a whole 3 seconds to change.
No its not my camera, but I was on the shoot when it failed.

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Jun 13, 2013 07:30:18   #
MT Shooter Loc: Montana
 
TimS wrote:
What are your thoughts on doing this with pro bodies? No plastic to fail.


That's true, magnesium is more durable than polycarbonate. But then that also makes the cameras heavier, and the lenses are always heavier also.
D700
D700...

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Jun 13, 2013 07:47:09   #
nikonshooter Loc: Spartanburg, South Carolina
 
Dbl00buk wrote:
I bought a Black Rapid RS – 7 and have been using it for about 3 months. While resting on a bench in a theme park with my D800 and the Black Rapid attached, another photog enthusiasts sat next to me. He asked me how I liked the strap and I responded with very favorable comments. He mentioned to me that he also bought the same strap, but heard of tripod attachment failures, whereas the camera body connecting plate, buckled under the load. Since I'm not familiar with the anatomy of the D 800 and its bottom connection points in relation to the tripod screw does this sound possible? On another forum, a member contacted Nikon regarding this issue and they highly recommended not using the tripod screw mount for anything other than a tripod.
I bought a Black Rapid RS – 7 and have been using ... (show quote)


Not a good idea - dangling your camera by the BR strap from the tripod screw! But to be sure, more cameras have been damaged by camera straps being caught by all kinds of things, door knobs to mention one, yanking the camera out of your hands while you head out the door. I have toyed with removing all camera straps .....I never have a camera strap around my head, ever. The weight of the camera gives my neck fits. Removing all straps would be wise! They just take up precious real estate in your camera bag.

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Jun 13, 2013 07:59:13   #
SueMac Loc: Box Elder, SD
 
I use the Black Rapid strap and have not had any trouble. But like Mogul stated, I use extreme caution with the camera. I usually have my right hand on it and do cradle it out of the way so it doesn't get bumped. And I don't like it banging against my hip. But it is more comfortable when out and about taking photos. And I do have a 2nd strap from one of the regular strap hooks to the Black Rapid hook "just in case".

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Jun 13, 2013 08:19:05   #
jerryc41 Loc: Catskill Mts of NY
 
MT Shooter wrote:
That could not be simpler. The manufacturers engineer the tripod socket to hold the weight of the camera in a downward, compressed fashion, with the weight of the camera "static" upon the head, same as on a monopod.

Is that a D70? Do you know the story behind the damage?

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Jun 13, 2013 08:21:40   #
MT Shooter Loc: Montana
 
jerryc41 wrote:
Is that a D70? Do you know the story behind the damage?


Its a D700 (notice Made in Japan). This was emailed to me by the owner who said the tripod socket "popped" and became loose while using with a Black Rapid strap.

The first image was a D50 and the owner was running up stairs with it on a Black Rapid strap when it broke and hit the concrete stairs.

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Jun 13, 2013 08:25:23   #
jerryc41 Loc: Catskill Mts of NY
 
MT Shooter wrote:
Its a D700 (notice Made in Japan). This was emailed to me by the owner who said the tripod socket "popped" and became loose while using with a Black Rapid strap.

The first image was a D50 and the owner was running up stairs with it on a Black Rapid strap when it broke and hit the concrete stairs.

You should send that picture to Black Rapid. They might want to use it in their ads, warning people not to let the camera bounce around while using their strap. :D

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Jun 13, 2013 08:28:37   #
MT Shooter Loc: Montana
 
jerryc41 wrote:
You should send that picture to Black Rapid. They might want to use it in their ads, warning people not to let the camera bounce around while using their strap. :D


If Black Rapid, or other manufacturers of this kind of strap, wanted to prove they were safe to use, don't you think they would post manufacturers endorsements in their advertising?
Just something else to consider............

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Jun 13, 2013 08:43:46   #
Hypno Loc: Miami
 
MT Shooter wrote:
I always advise everyone to NEVER mount their camera body to any strap via the tripod socket. It was never designed for that purpose and really should never be used for it.
That said, I do sell such straps in my store, specifically those designed for carrying two cameras at once, but I only sell them with the recommendation to use them only on the tripod collar of lenses that have that feature, never on the camera body.


How about the hand strap. The only mounting I have seen is dual mount for tripod socket and camera strap lug. Even the Nikon official Nikon HAND GRIP STRAP &#8545; for DSLR Camera AH4 AH-4

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Jun 13, 2013 08:46:41   #
MT Shooter Loc: Montana
 
Hypno wrote:
How about the hand strap. The only mounting I have seen is dual mount for tripod socket and camera strap lug. Even the Nikon official Nikon HAND GRIP STRAP &#8545; for DSLR Camera AH4 AH-4


A hand strap does NOT carry a camera solely by the tripod socket, but has two attachment points. Plus, the attachment point utilizing the tripod socket is used in a "shear" fashion, a recommended use.

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Jun 13, 2013 09:05:09   #
davidrb Loc: Hangar i13
 
8-) 8-) 8-) There are as many varied opinions regarding this issue as there are different camera manufacturers. The tech support rep I spoke with @ the Canon tells me there are no official negative opinions concerning the use of the tripod mount for the connection of straps. He even mentioned the E-2 Hand Strap that Canon markets. It offers a 2-point connection system utilizing both the tripod mount and the top mount. Many pro shooters at sporting events use Black Rapid type straps. These people sleep with their gear and know it as we'll as anyone else. If the dangers of the Black Rapid type straps earlier noted was as serious as stated by the claimants it would seem the manufactures of cameras would take a position, one way or the other. That seems to be the case with Canon. One of the world's largest manufacturers of camera does not recommend against the use of these straps. It appears the choice is actually left to the end user. What a refreshing concept, I am allowed to make my own decision! Please don't let Washington know about this. :lol: :lol: :lol:

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