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Jun 8, 2013 08:45:31   #
Brenda IS Scottish Loc: GOLDEN Colorado
 
It appears that we have 3-4 people interested in reading/working from these books, so lets change the reading for the month since it is only the 8th, that should give us all time.

Link Book 1 http://craftandvision.com/books/craft-and-vision/

link book 2 http://craftandvision.com/books/craft-vision-2/

The books are in adobe, which you can download for free from Adobe for your computer. If you prefer to read from a tablet, *galaxy* go to google play and select most popular apps and scroll down until you see adobe reader and select it for download, the you can download the books and read them. Someone help me out here with the Kindle and IPad please - don't have either, so I don't know how to use them.

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Jun 11, 2013 07:42:42   #
Country's Mama Loc: Michigan
 
Is this where you want the discussion for these books?

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Jun 11, 2013 09:56:53   #
Brenda IS Scottish Loc: GOLDEN Colorado
 
Yea, I should probably change the title of the post. Think i'll do that now.

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Jun 18, 2013 21:10:01   #
jvo Loc: left coast of the east coast
 
is it too late to get involved? i've downloaded the book and have started reading.

i'd be happy to contribute books, ideas, etc. as we get further along, i'll begin contributing if that's alright...

what's the deadline/schedule?

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Jun 18, 2013 23:19:14   #
Brenda IS Scottish Loc: GOLDEN Colorado
 
no real deadline, you can jump in anytime you like. Post comments/thoughts/photos you took inspired by the readings etc in each post for the determined reading. (like this board is for the Craft & Vision books)

Towards the end of the month, I'll put out feelers for books for the following month, and we'll vote for our choices. The goal is for one month to have a techniques book and the next month to have a book on theory, composition or criticizing photographs.

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Jun 19, 2013 10:29:56   #
Eveline
 
I am about half way through reading Book 1. I am really enjoying the book as it is thought provoking. I have chosen to follow Andrew Gibson's Advice to create a project. I am starting to photograph dolls. I will try to post some pics soon. How is everyone else doing? we are already half way through the month of June.

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Jun 19, 2013 10:58:51   #
Brenda IS Scottish Loc: GOLDEN Colorado
 
Eveline wrote:
I am about half way through reading Book 1. I am really enjoying the book as it is thought provoking. I have chosen to follow Andrew Gibson's Advice to create a project. I am starting to photograph dolls. I will try to post some pics soon. How is everyone else doing? we are already half way through the month of June.


Unfortunately as the "moderator' of the board I am slacking :-0 and haven't finished reading the material


:oops: :oops: :oops: :oops: :oops: :oops:

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Jun 19, 2013 13:08:50   #
Eveline
 
It's summer! It's OK to slack off. LOL

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Jun 19, 2013 23:47:13   #
jvo Loc: left coast of the east coast
 
'bout halfway through the first book, and finding it worthwhile and enjoyable...
david duchemin is someone i enjoy as a photographer and writer... i found his essay though to be less interesting as i do film, and have yet do any digital photography. true to form, some you like, some you won't!

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Jun 25, 2013 16:35:03   #
Eveline
 
It's the 25th already! I haven't even finished reading the book. I have taken at least 500 doll photographs, but haven't edited any yet. Not sure I will accomplish that before the end of the month. We might need two months per book! LOL

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Jul 4, 2013 04:43:54   #
MKatt Loc: Ortonville, MI
 
OK I will start the discussion. First I read both books and truly enjoyed them, there is a lot of great info. The first thing I want to start with is the histogram. In both books there are articles where they talk about exposing (or overexposing) for the bright areas, or getting the histogram on the right side of the graph, because that is where the majority of the information is,then fixing it in PP. Is this the norm? I have never really done much PP. Honestly until I joined the hog I thought it was more of an artistic tool. Would like everyone's input on this.

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Jul 4, 2013 10:58:11   #
Brenda IS Scottish Loc: GOLDEN Colorado
 
ya know, I was surprised about their discussion about using the histogram also. I had never heard about all the data being in the right side. I can see using it as a guide for exposure, but I don't think I would have the patience to sit and look at the little screen to compose the shot. I've only ever used it in post production to adjust lightness/contrast.

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Jul 4, 2013 22:21:41   #
Eveline
 
I sometimes look at the histogram after taking a shot if I am unsure of the exposure. I definitely would not check each shot. Too time consuming for my liking. I am not sure I understand what it meant by exposing for the right side. I always thought that if you were too far over on either side, it meant that you were overexposed (right) or underexposed (left). Am I incorrect?

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Jul 5, 2013 07:20:34   #
Country's Mama Loc: Michigan
 
Eveline wrote:
I sometimes look at the histogram after taking a shot if I am unsure of the exposure. I definitely would not check each shot. Too time consuming for my liking. I am not sure I understand what it meant by exposing for the right side. I always thought that if you were too far over on either side, it meant that you were overexposed (right) or underexposed (left). Am I incorrect?


I came away with you should expose to the right but don't spike on either the right or the left. This is the first time that I have read that there is more information to the right, but that makes sense to me. If you expose to the left you risk lots of noise and loss of detail. I need to read more.

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Jul 5, 2013 08:21:22   #
MKatt Loc: Ortonville, MI
 
Country's Mama wrote:
I came away with you should expose to the right but don't spike on either the right or the left. This is the first time that I have read that there is more information to the right, but that makes sense to me. If you expose to the left you risk lots of noise and loss of detail. I need to read more.


Right, it does make sense that there would be more information on the right side. The one article talked about exposing to make the best negative, to me that's saying you have a lot of PP to do.

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