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May 31, 2013 04:20:04   #
TucsonCoyote
 
What makes you think that one storage medium is superior to another in this day and age of consumer electronics?
Some of you mention Carbonite and such and Cloud backup sites....as if they had miracle storage that are immune to gama ray bursts or electromagnetic pulses!...not to mention just plain breakdown such as you would have with your own storage devices.
CDs and DVDs of the best quality have limited lifespans I am sure!
Even polished granit stone is not forever, recently saw the graves of my maternal grand parents headstones completely destroyed by the weather in just a century at the most!
B&W Archive quality pics seem to be the best as long as they are stored properly....that is not available to most of us!
Most of you talk about huge HDs in 2 or 3s which you swap out now and then...what a task to say the least!
I know my Dads slides are mostly all faded by now!
This is why I have tried to burn stuff into my memory rather than take pics and then look at where I had been once I was home.....now I should be writing it all down for who cares to read about my adventures!...also a lot of the time I had no camera and or no film !....life is hard when you are young ! lol

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May 31, 2013 04:35:18   #
LPigott
 
You could analyze anything to the point it seems useless. If you go through life that way, you'll end up watching everyone else pursue a passion, while you have nothing to pursue yourself.

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May 31, 2013 04:49:24   #
TucsonCoyote
 
LPigott wrote:
You could analyze anything to the point it seems useless. If you go through life that way, you'll end up watching everyone else pursue a passion, while you have nothing to pursue yourself.


Mostly I see people worry so much about preserving their experiences in life...for posterity or eternity....maybe just don't want to die and be forgotten!?
This was more my point, I don't dwell on too much myself. :)
I'm just happy when I find an old pic that isn't too damaged that reminds me of something.

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May 31, 2013 04:56:45   #
LPigott
 
One use for photography is preserving the moment. But that's not the only use. For me photography is creating a pleasing, even artful product. It's an art form.

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May 31, 2013 05:38:20   #
winterrose
 
TucsonCoyote wrote:
What makes you think that one storage medium is superior to another in this day and age of consumer electronics?
Some of you mention Carbonite and such and Cloud backup sites....as if they had miracle storage that are immune to gama ray bursts or electromagnetic pulses!...not to mention just plain breakdown such as you would have with your own storage devices.
CDs and DVDs of the best quality have limited lifespans I am sure!
Even polished granit stone is not forever, recently saw the graves of my maternal grand parents headstones completely destroyed by the weather in just a century at the most!
B&W Archive quality pics seem to be the best as long as they are stored properly....that is not available to most of us!
Most of you talk about huge HDs in 2 or 3s which you swap out now and then...what a task to say the least!
I know my Dads slides are mostly all faded by now!
This is why I have tried to burn stuff into my memory rather than take pics and then look at where I had been once I was home.....now I should be writing it all down for who cares to read about my adventures!...also a lot of the time I had no camera and or no film !....life is hard when you are young ! lol
What makes you think that one storage medium is su... (show quote)


What is the point of this???

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May 31, 2013 13:27:21   #
rook2c4 (a regular here)
 
I still think actually printing out is the best thing to do for long-term preservation of one's very best work. No, it doesn't guarantee survival, but what does? For a given image, what's more likely to be around in 50 years from now - a digital file, or a print? I believe the print has a better chance of surviving the decades.

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May 31, 2013 15:57:25   #
TucsonCoyote
 
winterrose wrote:
What is the point of this???

Was just reading the tons of stuff posted on storage!
....got me thinking.

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May 31, 2013 16:01:30   #
TucsonCoyote
 
rook2c4 wrote:
I still think actually printing out is the best thing to do for long-term preservation of one's very best work. No, it doesn't guarantee survival, but what does? For a given image, what's more likely to be around in 50 years from now - a digital file, or a print? I believe the print has a better chance of surviving the decades.

Seems like you are right.
Does anybody know if a photograph or a printed pic (with ink) will survive longer...I've seen printed material fade pretty fast!

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May 31, 2013 16:46:46   #
SharpShooter
 
winterrose wrote:
What is the point of this???


Winter, he's your protege, don't knock'im !

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May 31, 2013 17:04:29   #
SharpShooter
 
LPigott wrote:
You could analyze anything to the point it seems useless. If you go through life that way, you'll end up watching everyone else pursue a passion, while you have nothing to pursue yourself.


LP, you are right, but that's not the problem. The problem is that many want to keep every photo that's ever gone through their lens. At that rate, you'll need to hire a couple of Sherpas just to carry around the hard drive, or whatever is in vogue at the time.
Especially as artist, we need to keep only our money shots and trash the rest. Even if one is prolific, that would be a hundred shots per year. The chances of being the next Vivian Maier are slime.
Even the Grandkids will lose interest in seeing every diaper change.
It's said that we need to be ruthless in culling out our work. You want to see ruthless? Wait till you pass on. That's when it will get ruthless.
As for storing what's left? That will change every decade.
Happy shooting and storing.

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May 31, 2013 17:17:33   #
Nightski
 
winterrose wrote:
What is the point of this???


Well winterrose..I have seen this before in my old children. It's called, "They are so intimidated by the middle ager's self discipline and organization, that instead of trying to emulate our marvelous abilities, they criticize them. :)

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Jun 1, 2013 08:43:30   #
jerryc41 (a regular here)
 
TucsonCoyote wrote:
Mostly I see people worry so much about preserving their experiences in life...for posterity or eternity....maybe just don't want to die and be forgotten!?

How many times have you seen old pictures of unidentified people that no one in the world cares about? At the time, we think these pictures are important, and at the time, they are. After about two generations, pictures become landfill because no one cares about them.

Now, if you have a very large family, and someone who can catalog and preserve all those family photos and make notes about them, maybe they'll be worth keeping and passing down to future generations.

I have over a dozen photo albums upstairs and about 25,000 digital images. My family consists of my son and me. When he's old and gray, he might want to page through the albums, but after he's gone - they're landfill.

The Declaration of Independence is worth preserving. Is that group picture of your family in the same category?

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Jun 1, 2013 08:54:07   #
winterrose
 
jerryc41 wrote:
How many times have you seen old pictures of unidentified people that no one in the world cares about? At the time, we think these pictures are important, and at the time, they are. After about two generations, pictures become landfill because no one cares about them.

Now, if you have a very large family, and someone who can catalog and preserve all those family photos and make notes about them, maybe they'll be worth keeping and passing down to future generations.

I have over a dozen photo albums upstairs and about 25,000 digital images. My family consists of my son and me. When he's old and gray, he might want to page through the albums, but after he's gone - they're landfill.

The Declaration of Independence is worth preserving. Is that group picture of your family in the same category?
How many times have you seen old pictures of unide... (show quote)


Send me your picture Jerry, I'll keep it...

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Jun 1, 2013 08:59:11   #
jerryc41 (a regular here)
 
winterrose wrote:
Send me your picture Jerry, I'll keep it...

You can keep my avatar picture. That one's not too scary.

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Jun 1, 2013 09:05:22   #
sb (a regular here)
 
For many of us it is sad but not a life-changer to lose a photo. For professionals it means money and credibility. Any storage media, with proper back-up, works. Redundancy is the key. As for electromagnetic pulses from the mother ship, I guess we are all up the creek when that happens, so my photo archive will not be the highest priority for the survival of my family...

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