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Sep 7, 2011 11:26:40   #
kjhmedia
 
Hello, my name is Kevin, i'm relatively a "Newbie" in the 35MM world. I'm a Broadcast major and Professional having been an IMAX Film Projectionist for 12 years.

Presently, I'm mentoring and volunteering my time with both High School and some Middle School students in the district where I Substitute and getting certified in Ed Tech.

I happen to own a 35MM Pentax SLR camera that was given to me by one of my friend's Dad, my cousin happens to own the same model (K1000),also I own a Canon Digital DV camera (ZR40) and want o move into DSLR series of digital cameras
...so far I've managed to "spoil" a few rolls of film,(no flash,not engaging film into feed sprocket, exposing the film to light, not properly releasing and rewinding the film from the camera...not having proper F-stops /Exposures......then of course being..

Disappointed at the local CVS, Walgreen when getting film developed and only 1 or 2 shots have come out ! I'm fortunate that I can get to NYC and have visited a Great Store http://www.fotocare.com for all Photo needs..any , suggestions , tips ...Thanks !

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Sep 7, 2011 14:19:31   #
sinatraman Loc: Vero Beach Florida, Earth,alpha quaudrant
 
check out adorama and b+hphoto in NYC. they are where the pros go and have an excellant reputation. they both have a large used camera and lenses dept. I would also recomend getting an introduction to photography book. the same principals apply in regards to fstops, iso, shutter speed to film as to digital. good luck

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Sep 8, 2011 11:56:24   #
Leopold Lysloff
 
Greetings kjhmedia to this interesting and educational forum.
Sorry to hear about your Pentax issue. That can very easily be remedied.
It always takes a bit of trial and error to get to master any type of mechanical apparatus. You will find that once you get past that, your K1000 will perform and give you some excellent photographs. It's a fine camera and has many followers. A little time and patience is what this type of picture taking needs. But when you see the creative possibilities, it will be well worth your effort.
Everyone is in digital these days and with good reason and fine results. But the hobby of photography would also include working with film cameras that have their own special signature. When I go anywhere I bring both, digital and film. The digital is great for snapshots and quick needed response. The film is great for planned and special pictures that don't require the rush. (although at times, I have gotten some great pictures on the run with film because I know my camera and was ready for anything).
Good luck in both.

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Sep 8, 2011 12:24:37   #
problem child Loc: Kingman AZ
 
I remeber a friend lending me a K1000. It was quite a few years ago, and I loved it. I only shot two rolls of film through it, and the photos came out great. With a little practice you will get the hang of it. The old simple cameras are still the best. I have a Canon FTb. It's a great camera that I use not often enough. Hmmmm I think I'll take it out this weekend.

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Sep 8, 2011 12:40:25   #
sinatraman Loc: Vero Beach Florida, Earth,alpha quaudrant
 
Leopold Lysloff wrote:
Greetings kjhmedia to this interesting and educational forum.
Sorry to hear about your Pentax issue. That can very easily be remedied.
It always takes a bit of trial and error to get to master any type of mechanical apparatus. You will find that once you get past that, your K1000 will perform and give you some excellent photographs. It's a fine camera and has many followers. A little time and patience is what this type of picture taking needs. But when you see the creative possibilities, it will be well worth your effort.
Everyone is in digital these days and with good reason and fine results. But the hobby of photography would also include working with film cameras that have their own special signature. When I go anywhere I bring both, digital and film. The digital is great for snapshots and quick needed response. The film is great for planned and special pictures that don't require the rush. (although at times, I have gotten some great pictures on the run with film because I know my camera and was ready for anything).
Good luck in both.
Greetings kjhmedia to this interesting and educati... (show quote)


allright I promised myself that I wouldn't respond to any more film/digital posts from you having learned the hard way its like beating my head into a brick wall. But I can't let this one go. you say "the digital is great for SNAPSHOTS and quick needed responses. The film is great for planned and special pictures that do not require the rush." I don't think you are conciously aware of just how arrogant, condesending, insulting and demeaning that staement is to those of us who have joined the 21st century and shoot digital. I would love for you to tell moose peterson that his awesome nature photos are taken with a snapshot format because he uses a D-3. Or Bob Krist fabolous travel shots are less legitamate because he uses digital. many of his shots are planned and special. You like film nothing wrong with it, but it still is obsolete technology. People like to shoot with smoothbore black powder muskets like they used in the revolutionary war. but not one of them will say that it is just as good a military weapon as todays M=16. Please im not telling you to give up film, I'm just asking that you give digital photographers the same respect you give film photographers. you enjoy film thats great, i enjoy digital thats great. I just get a sense from some film fanatics that if i dont use film i am somehow less of a photographer than them. I just hate snobbery of any kind, food snobs, wine snobs, music snobs, beer snobs, cigar snobs, and photo snobs. The only thing i am asking is be carefull in how you write your posts not to demean others who disagree with your choice of medium.

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Sep 8, 2011 12:54:09   #
josoIII
 
kjhmedia wrote:
Hello, my name is Kevin, i'm relatively a "Newbie" in the 35MM world. I'm a Broadcast major and Professional having been an IMAX Film Projectionist for 12 years.

Presently, I'm mentoring and volunteering my time with both High School and some Middle School students in the district where I Substitute and getting certified in Ed Tech.

I happen to own a 35MM Pentax SLR camera that was given to me by one of my friend's Dad, my cousin happens to own the same model (K1000),also I own a Canon Digital DV camera (ZR40) and want o move into DSLR series of digital cameras
...so far I've managed to "spoil" a few rolls of film,(no flash,not engaging film into feed sprocket, exposing the film to light, not properly releasing and rewinding the film from the camera...not having proper F-stops /Exposures......then of course being..

Disappointed at the local CVS, Walgreen when getting film developed and only 1 or 2 shots have come out ! I'm fortunate that I can get to NYC and have visited a Great Store http://www.fotocare.com for all Photo needs..any , suggestions , tips ...Thanks !
Hello, my name is Kevin, i'm relatively a "Ne... (show quote)


Fujifilm has just announced it will be cutting the production of film drastically this year. film cameras will be like 8 track players in a short time, do you own an 8 track player, I didn't think so... :-)

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Sep 8, 2011 13:24:02   #
RonaldLewis Loc: Chicago, Illinois
 
I would get an entry level DSLR. Depending on how deep you want to get into photography I would go into either Nikon or Canon because they have the largest systems. Popular Photography recently did a test on the Canon T3 and gave it very good reviews and it is ablout $600. That includes the kit lens which is an 18-55 IS lens which is all you need to get started with. With digital you can learn instantly what you are doing wrong. There is no film to load or to get processed. This will eleminte the problems that you encountered with the Pentax K1000. This, by the way, is an excellent camera to begin with if you were starting out with film. But with digtal you can see the difference when you change shutter speeds and F stops immediately. You also have a lot of automatic modes to use so you will get a descent picture such as program and fully automatic. Invest in a flash that is compatible with whatever camera system that you start with. That is very important.

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Sep 8, 2011 13:29:14   #
Leopold Lysloff
 
Palleeese! Sinatraman, give us a break. If all you can read into things are personal attacks, then you are not getting anything at all from these forums. You seem to need something to chew on to keep you active and alert.
We are not attacking anything, just enjoying our hobby and the right to speak our minds (as you so negatively do). Stay with the people that love to kill any fun and freedoms in an innocent hobby.
I don't ride motorcycles but millions love them. Some say they are dangerous, obsolete method of transportation, etc. I think they are great for those who enjoy them. Why not let us have our fun. You like digital? Well so do I. I like film no matter where it sits in our modern day life. I don't care if they stop film production tomorrow, we film guys will find some and continue our hobby. No one is out to insult digital. We all use it and enjoy it. But we also have every right to practice and enjoy and in many cases prefer film over digital. That's it. Like it or not.

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Sep 8, 2011 13:35:46   #
Leopold Lysloff
 
Great advice for the newbie. He can be very happy with putting together a nice digital kit outfit. It's great that you recognize his Pentax as a fine camera. Hopefully he will try to use it from time to time and reap the rewards of what it can do. The little challenges of film photography will be valuable lessons when using a modern and very automatic functioning digital camera.

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Sep 8, 2011 13:50:44   #
josoIII
 
Leopold Lysloff wrote:
Great advice for the newbie. He can be very happy with putting together a nice digital kit outfit. It's great that you recognize his Pentax as a fine camera. Hopefully he will try to use it from time to time and reap the rewards of what it can do. The little challenges of film photography will be valuable lessons when using a modern and very automatic functioning digital camera.


I think it is also important that he understands, a $35,000 Hasselblad does not take good photos...

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Sep 8, 2011 14:00:46   #
Leopold Lysloff
 
Really??
I don't think many could afford to see for themselves (for 35K$) but for those who can, they surely must have investigated the potential of such a camera.
(are you referring to the Hassy with the digital back)?
I know the regular Hassy (500 series) takes awesome pictures. I have had some years with one of those.

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Sep 8, 2011 14:21:14   #
RonaldLewis Loc: Chicago, Illinois
 
I recently saw a 20 x 30 taken with a digital Haselblad and it was the sharpest and most vibrant picture that I have ever seen in my over 50 years of photography. I know photography is subjective but this was just an unbelievable image. It was taken at The Museum of Science & Industry at Chicago. I have owned a Hasselblad and image quality is truly excellent but that is primarily due to the fine Zeiss lenses that are used with the cameras. I blew images up to 16 x 20 using ASA 25 film but got nothing to approach the image I saw.

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Sep 8, 2011 14:35:23   #
sinatraman Loc: Vero Beach Florida, Earth,alpha quaudrant
 
you called digital for snapshots. your words and now you are making personel attacks against me? I didn't read anything into your statements I quoted your words exactly. Nor at anytime have i ever said don't shoot film, I told you I shoot film and am in a film group on flickr. I just said don't try to justify film by claiming its superior when it isn't. it is different not superior. whether you like it or not the digital for snapshoyts comment is insulting sobish elitist. Be a luddite for all I care whatever is fun for you is morally aceptable for me. I am sincerly glad that you love film and have a passion for it. These days people are passionate about few things. The only problem I and many others have with film snobs is that they come across whether intentional or not as having a superior attitude because you use film. a good photographer is a good photographer no matter the medium. A good photographer with a digital point and shoot will produce better photos than a mediocre photographer with a nikon f-6. I have not made any personel attacks against you please refrain likewise. I do not agree with you but I do repect your arguments. give me the same courtesy. after all good manners never go out of style.

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Sep 8, 2011 14:35:28   #
josoIII
 
josoIII wrote:
Leopold Lysloff wrote:
Great advice for the newbie. He can be very happy with putting together a nice digital kit outfit. It's great that you recognize his Pentax as a fine camera. Hopefully he will try to use it from time to time and reap the rewards of what it can do. The little challenges of film photography will be valuable lessons when using a modern and very automatic functioning digital camera.


I think it is also important that he understands, a $35,000 Hasselblad does not take good photos...
quote=Leopold Lysloff Great advice for the newbi... (show quote)


I was referring to the old adage of owning a Nikon, does not make you a good photographer, it just makes you a Nikon owner.

I just step it up to a Hasselblad. h4d-60 sorry about the confusion.

without a doubt, one of the finest, or maybe the finest camera ever made.

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Sep 8, 2011 14:47:56   #
josoIII
 
sinatraman wrote:
you called digital for snapshots. your words and now you are making personel attacks against me? I didn't read anything into your statements I quoted your words exactly. Nor at anytime have i ever said don't shoot film, I told you I shoot film and am in a film group on flickr. I just said don't try to justify film by claiming its superior when it isn't. it is different not superior. whether you like it or not the digital for snapshoyts comment is insulting sobish elitist. Be a luddite for all I care whatever is fun for you is morally aceptable for me. I am sincerly glad that you love film and have a passion for it. These days people are passionate about few things. The only problem I and many others have with film snobs is that they come across whether intentional or not as having a superior attitude because you use film. a good photographer is a good photographer no matter the medium. A good photographer with a digital point and shoot will produce better photos than a mediocre photographer with a nikon f-6. I have not made any personel attacks against you please refrain likewise. I do not agree with you but I do repect your arguments. give me the same courtesy. after all good manners never go out of style.
you called digital for snapshots. your words and n... (show quote)


I think what we are reading today is so many older photographers have invested thousands of dollars in film equipment, digital comes along and says film is dead, these people freak and say my photos are better than your photos...
It is painful to think it is becoming a dust collector, believe I know.

I do try and get the most I can out of the old glass with the M-42 adapters.

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