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Apr 10, 2024 20:14:08   #
Linda From Maine wrote:
They are subjective if you don't know the photographer's intent.

You can say "reasonable expectations" or such, but the bottom line is, unless you ask the photographer their intent, you don't know.

I read your initial post as your being open to discussion, but it quickly became apparent you really were in rant mode, with no interest in understanding all that has been written by those of us who are explaining the reasons to not indulge your ego with unsolicited advice.


Linda - who died and left you as the Oracle of this site? You and your fellow Uhh police force have made it clear to me that there are too many pompous, self righteous, mean spirited people lurking here that make it ill suited for serious photographers. Arguing that it is every persons right to post crummy photographs (once again - I say this slowly - OBJECTIVELY CRUMMY, NOT SUBJECTIVELY CRUMMY) on a dedicated photo forum without being willing to learn how to improve is just silly.

You gleefully (vindictively?) point to an early post of mine where I pretty much called the obnoxious UHH know it all who felt it was his duty to chastise me for inadvertently posting some photos to the wrong UHH forum. That is the type of snarky BS (oh- did I offend your delicate sensibilities again? So sorry) that is ruining what once was a pretty decent site. Being open is a 2 way street and conforming to your definition of what's right or taking the highway isn’t open


I’m sure few tears will be shed, but don’t bother replying to this post (which is most definitely a rant)since I won’t be participating further in a website where people seriously argue that focus is subjective. I guess I should have cc’d this post to the all knowing Canon guy who thinks of himself as the smartest guy in the room on virtually every topic including the forum rules in case he has trouble reading between the lines.

I’ll stay with photo sites here on planet earth.
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Apr 10, 2024 15:47:08   #
Linda From Maine wrote:
They are subjective if you don't know the photographer's intent.

You can say "reasonable expectations" or such, but the bottom line is, unless you ask the photographer their intent, you don't know.

I read your initial post as your being open to discussion, but it quickly became apparent you really were in rant mode, with no interest in understanding all that has been written by those of us who are explaining the reasons to not indulge your ego with unsolicited advice.


Wow!
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Apr 10, 2024 14:44:55   #
Linda From Maine wrote:
I'm saddened to discover I was wrong about the OP's intent.

This mean-spirited follow-up says a lot.

jlocke, Wingpilot, Dennis (a whole different Dennis from who I see in The Attic ), Chg_Canon, MJPerini, and I "get it." The rest of you can look up the words "kindness" and "tolerance."

- unwatch -


Linda - Not sure I understand your point here. would you please pm me to discuss?
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Apr 10, 2024 11:54:40   #
burkphoto wrote:
……..As the ancient Greek philosopher, Plato, once said (I'm paraphrasing for context), the concept of perfection is just that — a concept. There is no perfect physical realization of a chair… just the idea of it……


Getting pretty “deep” at this point in the discussion. I’m not a philosopher, but focused and not in focus or level horizon vs tilted horizon are binary choices. They’re not subjective. 😎
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Apr 9, 2024 13:38:25   #
Linda From Maine wrote:
I'm saddened to discover I was wrong about the OP's intent.

This mean-spirited follow-up says a lot.

jlocke, Wingpilot, Dennis (a whole different Dennis from who I see in The Attic ), Chg_Canon, MJPerini, and I "get it." The rest of you can look up the words "kindness" and "tolerance."

- unwatch -


Linda - please pm me. Not sure i understand what you mean.
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Apr 9, 2024 12:50:29   #
BebuLamar wrote:
Most of the posts in the gallery the posters think their works are very good. They wouldn't want to hear differently.


Touché.
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Apr 9, 2024 11:56:16   #
Wingpilot wrote:
I understand what you’re getting at, but I don’t think everyone on UHH intends to post images that are technically perfect. A lot of folks post photos because they just want to share something that was meaningful to them. Yeah, there are a lot of photos that aren’t particularly good for one reason or another, but maybe perfection isn’t the point. I’ve seen some very beautiful photos posted that weren’t technically perfect, but were well worth looking at. If one is a professional and makes a living with photography then yes, images have to be correctly done, but for the rest of us who just enjoy taking photos, it’s just for that enjoyment, for personal enjoyment or to share with others.

If a photo is particularly bad I just won’t comment on it and if it’s in the Gallery, then criticism isn’t warranted unless the poster specifically asks for it. In that case the image might be better posted in the analysis section. But my philosophy is to just enjoy all the photos others have posted and maybe pick up some good ideas along the way.
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I guess I understand your theoretical point, but it still amazes me that someone (regardless of age) wouldn’t rather have constructive criticism that smoke being blown…..

I’ll have to learn to live with it 😎
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Apr 9, 2024 11:51:50   #
jlocke wrote:
I am of the "don't say anything if you can't say something nice" crowd, especially when the photo is posted in a section that isn't open to criticism. On the other hand, if I don't think the photo(s) are especially nice, I just move on without leaving a comment.

Not long ago I posted some photos of a woodpecker in our backyard, and one comment was to the effect that some of them looked a little soft. I don't mind that criticism, I shot through the kitchen window, so yeah.


You seem to be making my point. When someone mentioned that the image looked a little soft, you didn’t mind the critique, especially since you knew it was so due to shooting through glass. I posted my original rant several years ago after I replied (POLITELY) to a Gallery post suggesting that a background was too cluttered and stepping left or right a few steps would have improved the shot and I got slammed (NOT so politely) for daring to offer criticism in that forum. If your ego can’t take a well intended suggestion, you should consider not posting.
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Apr 9, 2024 11:40:06   #
Doyle Thomas wrote:
Space Needle

Interesting perspective. Like itv
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Apr 9, 2024 11:23:50   #
Folks - I raised this subject a few years back and thought I’d give it an encore. UHH has 2 sections for members to post pics - Photo Gallery and Photo Analysis and posting constructive criticism in the first is frowned upon. I think this rule does a disservice to photographers looking to up their game.

I often look at posts in the Gallery and too often see, sorry for the blunt language, just awful photos. I’m not talking about subjective matters. I’m talking about pics that are out of focus, poorly exposed, with wildly tilted horizons (not done intentionally for artistic purposes), badly post processed or overprocessed, poorly composed with telephone poles growing out of heads, etc. or any number of other technical (NOT subjective) flaws.

And most times, well meaning members post, “Great set”, or “Nicely done” or other “ attaboys” in an attempt to not hurt another member’s feelings. I see this as counterproductive and reinforcing bad technique by poster. I ask how is a member to develop better photography skills if, I again apologize upfront, technically terrible pics are displayed and followed by lots of gushing platitudes?

Last time I mentioned this, I was slapped down by numerous members who argue that unless a poster requests constructive criticism, nothing negative should be said. Ok - I’ll buy the “If you have nothing nice to say, say nothing” idea, but gushing over bad stuff does harm to the poster too. If the pics are bad, say nothing. Stop reinforcing bad work.

Just a suggestion to those posting to the Gallery in the future - think about soliciting criticisms so you can improve your work. Sure you will get many nasty, snarky and often incorrect replies from a certain subsection of members, but you will also get many great suggestions for improvement offered in a polite, constructive manner. I’ve been a photographer for 55 yrs and I welcome all well meaning and civil critiques. We are never too old to learn a new trick.

Anxious to see the replies to this rant.
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Apr 9, 2024 00:30:27   #
Dan' de Bourgogne wrote:
Wow! That is a fantastic set...The 1st picture is my favorite: I love those black silhouettes on that magnificent colorful sky! OK, here is just really few purple displayed, this color is not "omnipresent" in this shot but I don't care : I prefer other colors and this photo is superb!



I agree. That’s why I put it first on my list. I need to go back to my archives, but I’m pretty sure that silhouetted cactus shot in Saguaro National Park East in Tuscan was shot on Velvia. Almost certain it predated digital and as many of you know, Velvia was legendary for extraordinarily vivid colors. Also guessing that shot might have predated my PS use. I only say that because if I shot that pic today, I might have processed it with some masking of the black cacti to try to open up a little of the shadow detail. I love the 100% black cacti, but no doubt I would have looked to see if there was any detail in the plants. Considering that Velvia had only a tiny 4or 5stop dynamic range, it may not have. In fact, I probably shot that pic using either a 3 or 5 frame bracket since I wanted supersaturated sky tones and silhouetting. In all candor, I’m guessing that shot was 40 yrs ago and today, I can’t remember what I had for lunch. 😎
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Apr 8, 2024 18:26:41   #
afsalvo wrote:
A great selection, Rick, and very effective.


Thx to all who’ve commented.
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Apr 8, 2024 10:40:28   #
Vaun's photography wrote:
Thanks for looking and for your compliment and comment! Much appreciated Rick.


Ah yes, tie dye. I came of age in the 60’s when tie dye was part of the “uniform “. Always looked better after a doobie or two. 😎
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Apr 8, 2024 10:33:32   #
Vaun's photography wrote:
Here's another from a tie-dyed project of my wife's.


I like the "impressionism" style of the image. Could be something done by Monet or Renoir.
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Apr 8, 2024 10:15:28   #
just a few..........

Interestingly (or not?), purple is not one of my favorite colors, but in certain instances, it can be effective.








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