Might I suggest renting two or three lenses from lensrental? If you like it, you can buy it from them or keh.

Because they are looking for what the D800 offers? And with that they also want the latest version of the body. I see it as incremental to fix issues with the D800. You have the D800. What would you get today, if you did not already have that body?

Quite correct. There has been NOTHING to suggest that Google will not be updating the suite. There has been many indications that the suite is alive and well.

Why do people feel the need to do this; put out false information. This is just like what people did with Photoshop. I, personally, dislike Adobe, the company, but the misinformation about the cloud version was so utterly idiotic, it bordered on humorous.

Have you or do you help with that cause? :idea:

Well,I thought you were p*ssed *ff as well.

As for seeing him in 8 years, a span of time based on the notion that the same amount of money will have been spend. You haven't taken into account the amount of software that dies a horrible death when the next version of the OS comes out.

This is why the open source movement is growing so quickly. Stellar software includes Android OS for phones, Linux, Python, Perl... None of this helps with digital photography. The leading alternative is GIMP, but sadly, it is not yet ready for prime time. If folks were to spend just an hour or so a week helping in the effort, GIMP could become an awesome product.

Thanks for sharing! Nice shots. I'm a sucker for these.

I'm torn between going with a faster or slower shutter speed. Sometimes I like it when the props are frozen, other times just a shimmer. The best is when you get a blur effect from a quarter turn. You just never know how they'll look one or the other.

Thanks. Apart from my dislike of all things Adobe, which I could get over, this is a rather low entry price point.

Rent it first.

Rent first.

I've resisted PS for years, regardless of the 'cloud' version, but considering the low entry cost, I might reconsider. Do you buy the software and then pay a monthly fee or do you download the software for free and pay just a monthly fee?

Do you have examples of this? I am not being argumentative, but I think you mentioned something like this before. This sounds different than just the blurring of the the background, which for example, could be the trees behind a person blending into a mass of greens. Let's shelve the good/bad attributes for the time being.

The way I see things, there appears to be two basic camps; bokeh == blur and bokeh == pleasing blur.

For me, the first seems pointless, as it merely uses a different word for one we already have; blur.

And the second, as I have grown to understand it, suggests that bokeh is an aesthetic quality of an image. In other words, if there is a pleasing blur, that image has bokeh. Folks wax poetic about how smooth or delicious the bokeh is. Unfortunately, if you show an image with blur in it to ten people, you will most likely get ten different reactions, ranging from utterly dreadful to orgasmic.

Some thought Picasso a genius, others say he was manipulative. Some think Jackson Pollock was one of America's greatest Artists, others think he was a fraud. It is subjective. You can't measure it. You like it or you don't.

But if you like the blur you see, you see bokeh in that image. If you don't like the blur, you just see a blurry mess, not bokeh.

I believe that was my error. I cut and pasted the link correctly, however, I put a period in at the end of the sentence and UHH took it in as part of the URL. I think a '<' at the beginning and a '>' at the end will prevent that. I will have to test it the next time I put a URL in a post.

I've gone back and corrected my post and it seems to work now.

My apologies for any inconvenience.

On some sites, yes, and they would have been booted. They knew the rule and posted anyway. I'm glad this site isn't as anal. IMUHO.