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Dude. Enough already. Posting about Antifa, electoral college and majority vote on day 3 after the election, during the time when the entire country is trying to count votes and figure out if Trump will win with electoral college votes while Biden would hold the majority vote, which might result in large scale riots fueled by Antifa -- that doesn't get any more political.

This is a favorite tactic of some people on forums. To bog down in technicalities and nuances and split hairs indefinitely. It was historic, no it was constitutional, no it was merely an observation, it was social, it wasn't political in this sense or that sense, you posted a link to this post but not that post, whatever. It's getting ridiculous.

You know it and I know it that to a reasonable person this will appear to be political, because it is political. I won't be responding to this anymore as it's a waste of time.

If you honestly can't understand how that is political, then as I mentioned above more than once it's not my problem.



I already addressed that in a quote of my own PM. But I'll rephrase it again just to make sure it's clear.

Any topic that deals with current events or anything of significance will have the potential of turning into a political mudslinging. But that does not justify actually turning it into a political fight.

People could be discussing how COVID rates are increasing or how stupid it is to not wear a mask or how inconvenient it is to wear a mask.

But then, if someone comes into that topic and posts a reply of something like "Trump with his incompetence is responsible for deaths of 290,000 people and he should be jailed" or "the leftists want to train us to use masks to control us later on" -- that will be deleted.

And if a post of yours like that gets deleted, then don't go around whining that your post got deleted because you were "speaking the truth" or "someone is out to get you". It was deleted because you were ruining the topic with your crap.

Sometimes, a topic is too far gone and it will be moved to the Attic. Sometimes, posts will be deleted to clean up the topic and it will remain in GCC. That really depends on how bad it got. (Note to OPs, if you don't want your GCC topics moved to the Attic, then be proactive and report political replies before it gets out of hand.) But the repeated offenders will be removed from GCC.

As for tightrope walking, slipping your feet, tangential thoughts (oh how poetic, bravo!), think of it this way: if you can't sense where the line is, then maybe you aren't fit to post in GCC. And it might be safer for you to stay in the Attic.

Seriously, if you frame it as "I just don't understand", then my response will be "I don't care". If you honestly don't get it, I'm sure the GCC section will be fine without you.

And your own participation in this conversation right now, and how you are still claiming how what you posted wasn't political but social or an observation or whatever is precisely the reason for this policy of "I don't care if you don't get it." (Thanks for helping me illustrate this point, by the way.)

Because otherwise I would just bog down with users who are trying really hard to be obtuse while claiming they aren't really breaking the rules.

So there you have it. If you can't understand what not to post in GCC, then just don't post in GCC at all.

And that somehow negates the fact that you posted politics in GCC claiming you didn't post politics in GCC? Really?



They are off the rails. But that doesn't make it OK to post politics in GCC. It's amazing how many users can't get this through their heads. It's so simple, yet we have people who just can't grasp this very simple rule and look for excuses to break it.... when they have the Attic available for them 24/7.

OK, then please read this:

https://www.uglyhedgehog.com/t-677315-6.html#11819860

It applies to everyone.

I never said that. I said your post sealed the topic as 100% political. Which it did.

This is what you posted:




And while I'm sure you can claim this is part of a "Constitutional discussion", I simply don't agree with that.

In my subjective opinion, talking about Antifa right around the election time (you posted it on November 6), when things still weren't clear, and when people were worried that there might be nationwide riots if Biden loses -- that's definitely political. And honestly, I won't be wasting my time arguing that it's not.

It doesn't mean that somehow this is all your fault. Look at the entirety of that topic.

What happened was the topic turned political, and then it was moved from GCC to the Attic.

And we wouldn't even be talking about it if not for LWW's inability to contain his butthurt and start spreading lies that his "historical thread" was "booted". It was no longer a historical thread.

Other than that, it was a non-event. Just a thread moved to the appropriate section. Done and forgotten.



Not that it matters anymore since LWW is no longer a user on this forum, but please don't reduce his multitude of violations to "innocent discussions". He had plenty of warnings. The latest of which, as an example, was for this deleted post which would have spoiled yet another topic in GCC:



Is that non-political too?

And he's had a lot of warnings. A lot. Nobody gets suspended or banned from a section on their first violation (or second, or third...). He just kept ignoring the warnings as if somehow he is special.
So then, he had his access to GCC revoked. Because what else do you expect me to do about a user who keeps bringing politics to GCC after having been told repeatedly to stop doing that?

Some users just can't control themselves. And they end up ruining the forum experience for the other users. At some point I have to draw the line somewhere. So that was the end of his access to the GCC section. Warning him didn't do anything.

And even then, he still had access to the Attic where he could continue posting his politics. I couldn't care less what he posts.

In any case, as I said I'm done bending over backwards, especially for the low-value users who do nothing but post garbage in the Attic.

And I don't think it's appropriate to continue talking about LWW going forward, since he can't reply. I just wanted to clarify that it wasn't "because of innocent discussions" as you put it.

It was because he kept ignoring the warnings. And while each individual violation might not seem like a big deal, when you realize a person has no intention of slowing down, there is really no other option but to revoke his access to GCC. Otherwise, it will turn into Attic. And we already have one Attic.

Would you like to be suspended too?

Oh well, have fun on some other forum. I'm sure you won't have a hard time finding another place to post. You are no longer welcome here.

OK, you are no longer welcome on my forum. I don't like you. Have fun elsewhere.

You are lying. This is what I explained to you, as you were spoiling other people's topics. Topics that were initially appropriate for GCC but would end up being sent to the Attic because of your replies:



If you lack the intellectual capacity to understand what that means, it's really not my problem and there is nothing I can do about it. It has nothing to do with sides or belief systems. It's all about people trying to discuss news or current affairs, and you spoiling the topic with your political crap. Which would require me to either selectively delete your posts or move the entire topic to the Attic.



Yes. And it was explained to you we don't allow political avatars because an avatar shows up in every section of the forum. And again, if you lack the intellectual capacity to understand that MLK was a significant political figure (simply because human rights is a big part of politics, especially now once again), then it's your problem and again there is nothing I can do about it.

And I'm deleting your (what appears to be Williams) avatar as well. Additionally, I'm disabling avatars for your account since despite prior explanations you seem to be unable to understand why this is a problem.



Lying again.

Here is the topic in question:

https://www.uglyhedgehog.com/t-672626-1.html

Here is where it stopped being historic and started turning political:

https://www.uglyhedgehog.com/t-672626-1.html#11719687

Again, if you lack the intellectual capacity to understand that discussion of electoral college is a hot political topic, especially right now, it's your problem not mine.

Finally, your reply in this topic:

https://www.uglyhedgehog.com/t-672626-1.html#11720239



No longer allows you to claim "it was the other users, I'm innocent, hurr-durr I'm being oppressed for my belief system" or whatever else you like to tell yourself.

And the following reply by SteveR seals it as 100% political. No two ways about it.

So no. It wasn't just a "historical thread. You lied once gain.

Why do you lie so much? Is it force of habit or something?

I don't like it when people use my forum to lie about my business ethics. So please stop doing that.

I'm tired of you.

The next time I hear as much as a peep out of you, I'm going to suspend your account for good.

I created something you use daily. Can you say the same thing about yourself?
Have you created something I use daily? No? Well, then show some respect.

I'm getting tired of low-value users like you, who only post garbage in the Attic, dragging me into their favorite activity of mudslinging.

So you will either show some respect for the work I do running a platform you've been using for years or you will be removed from here. (Or you can just leave and go elsewhere. There are plenty of other places for you to post your stuff. That would actually make things easier for me.)

I'm here not in the capacity of a user with whom you might enjoy wallowing in your own shit on a daily basis. I'm here in the capacity of someone who has to wake up at 3AM on a Saturday morning because a hard drive failed or there is a DOS attack and it needs to be dealt with. Don't ever forget that. I'm not here to bullshit with you about your inner sense of justice.

So once again, you will either show me the respect for that or you will be removed from my forum.

And when I kick you out, I'll state so plainly. And you'll see that there is no need for conspiracy theories or lies about systems of belief of bias or whatever else. I will kick you out and I'll say that I'm kicking you out because I don't like you.

It will be made clear you. It will look something like this: "I don't like you. You are no longer welcome on my forum. I no longer want to provide you with my services. Have fun elsewhere."

You see, I don't need some pretense to limit or remove your participation on my forum, as you seem to be implying.

That was your last warning. I'm tired of you.




Yes, I'm an American. And all I wrote above applies to you too. I'm tired of low-value users, who do nothing but post crap in the Attic, taking turns shitting on me.

So the same deal goes for you. When I kick you out, it will be made clear to you too. And the reason will be: "because I don't like you". No need to invent stories about political bias.

And when you have created something I'm using daily and have been using for years, then we'll talk about me respecting you and your work. (Although, there won't be a need for such talk as unlike you I wouldn't be shitting on someone whose work I'm using.)

And that goes for all low-value users.

If I open up your post list and all I see is the Attic and no challenges, no pictures, no tutorials, no attempts to help others with their gear or composition questions, no discussions about photography at all, then guess what, you are a low-value user to me.

I could take some crap from the good users we have here, those who provide value to this forum (and those who are sometimes driven away by users like you), but I won't be taking crap from you.

If you lack the intellectual capacity to understand any of that, it's really not my problem.

One more peep and you are out. (Or, just leave and find yourself another forum. That works for me too.)

We have Attic exactly for that reason. It was a spin-off from GCC. So that if you want to discuss politics you can do so in the Attic.

I'll take you up on that.

Here is your post in GCC that I deleted today:




And stop polluting my forum with politics outside of the Attic. You've had 4 warnings about it already. We have users who don't want to read politics. People like you ruin their forum experience.

You might want to check your computer for adware.

Ads suck, but ads are what pays the costs of running the forum.

I'm not sure what you mean by non-photographic ads.

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