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Nov 20, 2013 22:36:17   #
travelwp wrote:
Ansel Adams spent more time post processing than actually taking photos.


I too spent many hours in the darkroom, trying to get my photos to 'work'... This way is much more comfortable, and doesn't smell nearly as bad!
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Nov 20, 2013 22:32:09   #
jeep_daddy wrote:
I sometimes ask myself the same question. I would guess that it's because there some kind of time cut-off for the newsletter. I see some of mine in there and sometimes I don't. Based on that, I believe that the other response to you on this subject from Wall-E is wrong. By the way, your topic on this subject made it in the newsletter today. Tell me - do you see it in the newsletter you opened this morning?


I agree about the timing. Normally, I wouldn't expect anything until the following day - but occasionally, if I lose the window and go from the email link again, my messages from earlier that day will be in there.

That was what happened with this topic. I had posted it, and seen it in the forum, but I already had this morning's newsletter. When I went from the email link again later, this thread was in there.

I just feel that it is illogical to have the software micromanage to the extent of not sending your own posts in your edition of the newsletter. That would be a phenomenal amount of processing, if you think about it. It makes things much simpler to just build the newsletter, and then send it out to every subscriber. Besides, it seems to me that most people would like to see their own posts listed, just to *know* that they had been posted in the letter.

Also, the fact that *some* posts do come back to me in the newsletter would tend to support that position.

It's not like it's anything earth-shattering or anything. I was just puzzled that at least one of my posts did not appear in the following day's newsletter, despite being there in the forum. I thought maybe I had missed selecting a box or something...
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Nov 20, 2013 11:09:52   #
David Popham wrote:
For an interesting take on the use of post-processing digital images I suggest that one take a look at the book, "Photoshop, Masking & Compositing (2nd ed.)" by Katrin Eismann, Sean Duggan, & James Porto, New Riders,487pp.



It is sitting on a table, in my queue of books to read, right now!
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Nov 20, 2013 11:03:49   #
joer wrote:
And then there are people like myself that believe that any manipulation or no manipulation is ok. Do as much as you like or none at all.

Believe what you like but don't condemn others that don't share your beliefs. That's my out look on all things period!


Exactly! :thumbup:

Unless you are a CSI, a news reporter or some other class which requires forensic portrayal of the facts, then you can do whatever you feel you want to, in order to get the results you are looking for.

This question comes up regularly, and some of the tosh which is posted about it just cracks me up! It isn't just in the Hog, either. I am in a couple of photography groups on facebook, and it is constantly being argued there too. I have seen people posting that, once you modify the image in PS, it is no longer a photograph! Not sure what they thought it *was*, but...

Most of my PS work to date has been retouching scans of old 35mm negatives; I am only just starting to produce digital originals.

I do agree that some people overdo the processing, but even that was possible in the darkroom too!
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Nov 20, 2013 10:53:12   #
Wall-E wrote:
Why would your PERSONAL newsletter show topics that YOU started? Kinda redundant.

And a topic that YOU start will NEVER be NEW to you.


I realise that it would never be new to me. Most similar newsletters just print out everything that is new, rather than trying to personalise each copy to its recipient; besides, a couple of my posts *were* in the newsletters I received.

This one being a case in point!

I would just like to be sure that my posts are actually going out there, that's all. Seems like a reasonable question...
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Nov 20, 2013 10:33:11   #
Hi,

I have started several new topics over the past few weeks, and they are sitting there in the forums, but sometimes they do not make it into the newsletter... Is there something I am missing in the process? Of course, if *this* one doesn't make it, then it will only be seen by those who prowl the forums themselves...

When I see them in the forums, they do not have the 'new topic' label which everything else does, which seems significant. Any ideas?
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Nov 20, 2013 10:07:53   #
lightchime wrote:
Perhaps someone owes an apology to Adobe!!


Or maybe not...

I just bought a used copy of PS CS3 on ebay. It cannot be registered to me until the original owner fills out some forms, and I fill out some forms, and we send all these back to adobe. This is not current software, so why must we jump through all the hoops, just to get it into my name?

Also, I purchased this specifically to qualify for the $10 deal for photographers on CC. Apparently, it is an educational edition, and doesn't qualify. Nowhere in any of the promotional stuff that I read did it say *anything* about this restriction. If it did, I would have at least ensured before purchase that it was non-educational.

Given that my financial situation precludes me from *ever* paying $600+ for software, it seems that Adobe has 2 choices. They can accept my $10 every month for the foreseeable future, or they can have $0, and I will be stuck on the old versions. I am going to try and persuade them, once we eventually get it registered to me, but I am not holding my breath.
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Nov 20, 2013 09:57:33   #
pounder35 wrote:
THE TOILET SEAT

My wife, Julie, had been after me for several weeks to paint the seat on our toilet. Finally, I got around to doing it while Julie was out. After finishing, I left to take
care of another matter before she returned.
She came in and undressed to take a shower. Before getting in the shower, she sat on the toilet. As she tried to stand up, she realized that the not-quite-dry epoxy paint had glued her to the toilet seat.
About that time, I got home and realized her predicament.
We both pushed and pulled without any success whatsoever. Finally, in desperation, I undid the toilet seat bolts.
Julie wrapped a sheet around herself and I drove her to the hospital emergency room.
The ER Doctor got her into a position where he could study how to free her (Try to get a mental picture of this.).
Julie tried to lighten the embarrassment of it all by saying, "Well, Doctor, I'll bet you've never seen anything like this before."
The Doctor replied, "Actually, I've seen lots of them......
I just never saw one mounted and framed."

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Forwarded to me. There has been criticism lately about some posts not being credited to the correct source. I'll state straight up. I don't know where the hell this originated. :lol: :thumbup:
THE TOILET SEAT br br My wife, Julie, had been... (show quote)


I first saw it in a British movie, back in the 60s, "Carry On Doctor". Don't know if that was the original source or not, though.
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Nov 19, 2013 21:47:20   #
birdpix wrote:
If you are zoomed all the way out, or even nearly so, it is extremely difficult to track a moving object in a viewfinder. It takes a lot of practice to develop the skill to do that. It is the dilemma that all bird photographers face. If you zoom out enough so that it is easy to track the bird, you don't get much of a picture. And, if you zoom in, you can't track them. Just keep working on your skills and work on getting closer to the birds. Keep that camera with you at all time and be ready to shoot whenever the opportunity exists.
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Exactly! That sums up my problem nicely... Unfortunately, a lot of the time when I see these things, I am driving my school bus, so I cannot have the camera, and if I did, I couldn't stop and do anything about it in any case...

I was just looking at your flickr page, and you have some real nice stuff up on there! I like the ospreys in particular - I actually have some decent ones of those myself. Not because of long lens or anything, but we were on a sailboat that passed right alongside the buoy where their nest was!
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Nov 19, 2013 16:46:31   #
birdpix wrote:
Yes, it is inappropriate to hijack onother thread, but we'll forgive you as it is your first post here.

The first and third shots appear to be Red-tailed Hawk, one of the most common of our hawks, nationwide.

I don't own an SX50 but doesn't it have what they call "Zoom Framing Assist"? That allows you to zoom out to locate the subject and then automatically zoom in and track your subject as it moves around.

Hopefully, someone with experience with that particular camera will offer some advice.
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Yes. it does that, but I still couldn't keep the bird in the frame long enough to get a decent shot. I need some practice, probably...

I wondered if that was a red-tail, I have seen a couple of those close up in passing - never had a camera with me though... There are a pair of raptors that often hunts in that area. I see them fairly often, but not close enough to tell. The frustrating thing is when there is one sitting on top of a telegraph pole as you drive past! It's like, why not when I have the camera!?!
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Nov 19, 2013 13:37:30   #
gpro111 wrote:
No worries! There are a lot of helpful people here and I would hate for you to miss out on their assistance. Have a great day!


Wow, I even managed to get the name wrong in the apology... Sorry again!
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Nov 19, 2013 11:46:30   #
Wahawk wrote:
Beautiful captures! I love the colors on the clouds at sunrise and sunset!


Thank you. I just couldn't resist this sky. It really grabbed me!
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Nov 19, 2013 11:45:20   #
gpro111 wrote:
You may want to post this in your own thread so that you can receive some critique and advice on your pics.


My apologies to Linda; I did not intend to hijack your thread in any way. I just thought I was contributing to the 'conversation'. Sorry... :cry:
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Nov 19, 2013 10:21:31   #
I saw the sky last night as I was driving home from work, and it made me dash home, grab the camera and dash back out again. This was spectacular!






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Nov 19, 2013 09:40:43   #
monte wrote:
I've been using a Canon 50d for about a year and a half. I've bought a couple of lenses for it, including the Tamron 18-270. which I think is quite a lens for the money. My friend, who owns an enviable inventory of Canon top-of-the-f-line equip., is trying to get me into a full frame body, i.e., Canon 5d with an L lens, which does not accept any of my present lenses. Claims that I will love the full frame plus the much improved sensors -is it worth it? I do mostly travel and people photography.

Your invaluable input is much appreciated!!
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Save yourself the heartache and earn some karma by buying *me* the 5d and L lenses! There you go, problem solved! :mrgreen:
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