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Jul 25, 2017 14:43:31   #
soba1 Loc: Somewhere In So Ca
 
One more Viet Nam Vet story.
I took a lil martial arts got to green belt.
So as I was trolling around my neighborhood where I live
I see this old guy walking around with a long stick.
One day as I was going about I saw him up close he had a Viet Nam Veteran hat
on. I stopped him and asked that's your bo staff isn't it.
He said yes it is and sometimes I have a hard time keeping it on the
ground, I cracked up.

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Jul 25, 2017 14:47:09   #
BigBear Loc: Northern CT
 
soba1 wrote:
I remember when I was in college.
There was a guy in a wheel chair, and he was sucked looked like a skeleton.
He was a Vietnam Nam vet, he wore orange Van tennis shoes and on the back of his
wheel chair he had a sign posted agent orange.
I had a neighbor who was in Nam he told me stories about his time in the Marines.
He told me his friend I would see occasionally how he had what they called jungle rot.
Maybe that's why I have a lil more love for Vietnam guys because of the shit u went through.
There is this guy I work with and a guy in his crew was a Vietnam Vet special forces.
He is a big fat ass now, my buddy made a comment about him.
I laughed and said close range I bet he would still whup your ass and mine too.
I remember when I was in college. br There was a g... (show quote)


We have several in my American Legion Post who you can tell are having a miserable time getting by, but you will hear none of them complain. And they will be the first there if you need anything.

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Jul 25, 2017 16:35:37   #
Frosty Loc: Minnesota
 
phcaan wrote:
With you attitude it is a wonder you escaped a fragging.


Sorry you are disappointed and so intolerant of opinions that vary from your own. Your statement about fragging indicates that you are a very sick person......but that is part of the reason we, (vets and active duty personal), served our country......to protect your right to your opinions and to express them.

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Jul 25, 2017 16:50:52   #
Frosty Loc: Minnesota
 
Wrangler wrote:
I can't speak for all military branches, bases, or units but in all units to which I was attached there was politics. I'm sure there is no surprise that anytime two or more people get together, politics happens.

If you are asking if military personnel should get involved in politics, I would say yes. When one joins the service, he or she does not stop being a citizen. Citizens cause politics. It is the duty of every citizen to take a role in politics, at least by voting.

If the government were considering doing away with social security benefits, every eligible person has a dog in the hunt and should get involved. I don't see how the military is any different.

I cannot speak for all wars, police actions, conflicts or any other PC term you chose, but I guarantee that congress had its political hands in the rules of war and the movement of troops in Vietnam. Most of the directives were detrimental to the military effort. In other words they wanted to run the "conflict" and were dumber than a box of hammers when it came to war.

In short, I think that the military has not only the right but also the duty to ask for budget increases from congress. There are "people" in the military not aliens from outer space. These "people" have the same rights as all people.
I can't speak for all military branches, bases, or... (show quote)


I don't think political conversations are what is at stake here. It is campaigning in uniform or endorsing a party or candidate or using military rank etc. for such purpose that is forbidden. Remember, you do give up some rights while in the military because you are required to comply with articles in the Code of Military Justice.

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Jul 25, 2017 17:02:03   #
Bazbo Loc: Lisboa, Portugal
 
phcaan wrote:
With you attitude it is a wonder you escaped a fragging.


Pretty ignorant and facile remark about soldiers murdering their own officers. Rot in hell oxygen thief.

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Jul 25, 2017 17:06:10   #
Texcaster Loc: Queensland
 
Frosty wrote:
I don't think political conversations are what is at stake here. It is campaigning in uniform or endorsing a party or candidate or using military rank etc. for such purpose that is forbidden. Remember, you do give up some rights while in the military because you are required to comply with articles in the Code of Military Justice.


Very good point about the Code of Military Justice and stockade time is dead time.

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Jul 25, 2017 21:14:09   #
phcaan Loc: Willow Springs, MO
 
GeorgeH wrote:
Leica Abuser, take your vile opinions, fold them six times and stuff them where the sun never shines, to borrow from Dick Cavett. You are a waste of living space.

Speaking of a waste of space, get in line.

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Jul 25, 2017 21:16:41   #
phcaan Loc: Willow Springs, MO
 
Bazbo wrote:
Pretty ignorant and facile remark about soldiers murdering their own officers. Rot in hell oxygen thief.

Like you would know anything about it.

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Jul 25, 2017 22:02:12   #
Bazbo Loc: Lisboa, Portugal
 
phcaan wrote:
Like you would know anything about it.


What else is there to know? You are making a flippant lazy joke about alleged crimes against American officers.

You are an asshole. And GFY, pussy.

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Jul 25, 2017 22:14:26   #
ken hubert Loc: Missouri
 
phcaan wrote:
With you attitude it is a wonder you escaped a fragging.


That thought crossed my mind! He must have been a pencil pusher! He definitely wasn't a line officer!

And Spaz is just a effeminate bitch!

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Jul 25, 2017 22:48:23   #
phcaan Loc: Willow Springs, MO
 
Bazbo wrote:
What else is there to know? You are making a flippant lazy joke about alleged crimes against American officers.

You are an asshole. And GFY, pussy.

Big talk from a little commie like yourself.

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Jul 25, 2017 22:49:25   #
phcaan Loc: Willow Springs, MO
 
ken hubert wrote:
That thought crossed my mind! He must have been a pencil pusher! He definitely wasn't a line officer!

And Spaz is just a effeminate bitch!

Probably commanded a desk right into the break room.

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Jul 25, 2017 23:04:01   #
Frosty Loc: Minnesota
 
[quote=ken hubert]That thought crossedwere my mind! He must have been a pencil pusher! He definitely wasn't a line officer!

........and this piece of wisdom is based on what????........could it possibly be because I have a political outlook different than yours? Do you really believe that only right wingers were in combat? I apparently have given you more credit than you deserve if that is what you believe. .....and since when do Viet Nam vets turn on one another......or maybe that is still true and you are a pretender. Disgraceful!!!!!

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Jul 26, 2017 00:55:44   #
ken hubert Loc: Missouri
 
[quote=Frosty]
ken hubert wrote:
That thought crossedwere my mind! He must have been a pencil pusher! He definitely wasn't a line officer!

........and this piece of wisdom is based on what????........could it possibly be because I have a political outlook different than yours? Do you really believe that only right wingers were in combat? I apparently have given you more credit than you deserve if that is what you believe. .....and since when do Viet Nam vets turn on one another......or maybe that is still true and you are a pretender. Disgraceful!!!!!
That thought crossedwere my mind! He must have bee... (show quote)


No pretender here and I consider you a disgrace. And not only right wingers were in the shit. I was apolitical back then but after seeing what your ilk has been doing since then it's time to change things.

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Jul 26, 2017 06:55:51   #
richosob Loc: Lambertville, MI
 
Leica User wrote:
You are a very special kind of stupid. Just a hate filled moron.


You've got that right. 👍👍

Rich

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