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May 24, 2017 09:09:02   #
Spider223
 
tallguy56 wrote:
For those who responded appropriately to my questions...thank you. For those of you who do not get what I was asking, let me clarify. I have no issue buying a camera or any technology that was introduced and being sold in current year. I understand that technology is ever evolving and that there will always be newer models.

My concern as stated in my original post is that the current model of the cameras I was considering (G3X and FZ1000) are almost 2 years old and since no product is perfect, they have some limitations. If the cameras were 2017 models, I would never have asked the question. Buy a 2017 model in 2017...no problem. Buy a 2015 model in 2017...hence my questions.
For those who responded appropriately to my questi... (show quote)


In your original post, you never mentioned which cameras you were considering buying, other than that they were 2015 models. I guess I tried to answer your question/post on the information you cared to share with us. Oops...

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May 24, 2017 09:12:22   #
CatMarley Loc: North Carolina
 
tallguy56 wrote:
I am looking to buy a new camera and some of the models that I am considering were introduced in 2015. I don't want to buy a "new" camera and then find out that a newer version comes out shortly after my purchase.

My questions are....is there a time of year that camera manufacturers introduce new models? How can I find out what is in the manufacturer pipelines and their expected release dates?

Thanks in advance for any assistance.


New models are not often really "new" but only same old same old with a new gadget or two tacked on. It is more important to know when a company is coming out with a real advance such as a new processor or sensor - something that really changes the game. And then YOU have to decide whether it changes the game for you! Newer is not always better. I think the Nikon FM was Nikon's best camera ever! But that's just me.

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May 24, 2017 09:29:27   #
burkphoto Loc: High Point, NC
 
tallguy56 wrote:
I am looking to buy a new camera and some of the models that I am considering were introduced in 2015. I don't want to buy a "new" camera and then find out that a newer version comes out shortly after my purchase.

My questions are....is there a time of year that camera manufacturers introduce new models? How can I find out what is in the manufacturer pipelines and their expected release dates?

Thanks in advance for any assistance.


Technical knowledge, vision, purpose, drive, experience, and training are FAR more important than gear in achieving what you want. You can get far more bang for the buck by working on those things than by waiting for the Next Big Thing. It's fun to drool over new gear and rumors of new gear, but drool isn't a tool. That said...

Photokina and CES and NAB are the three main convention and trade shows where manufacturers introduce new gear.

Photokina 2018 will be held on the last five days of September in Cologne, Germany, 2018. Photokina has no 2017 date, but after 2018, they plan to convene annually, instead of every other year. Photokina is traditionally the largest trade show in the world, where the biggest announcements are made.

The Consumer Electronics Show (CES) 2018 will be held in Las Vegas, NV, from January 9–12, 2018. It is a general electronics industry show, and the second most likely place for manufacturers to announce or display new gear.

NAB, the National Association of Broadcasters show and convention, is to be held April 22–27, 2018, also in Las Vegas. It is primarily dedicated to broadcast audio and video, and filmmaking. So hybrid camera manufacturers tend to be there with new goodies.

Review sites typically have preview articles on announced gear, and sometimes get seeded with new cameras before they are officially released, so they can start reviewing them. http://www.dpreview is a good example.

There are various vloggers on YouTube and bloggers on the Internet who love to speculate about new gear from camera manufacturers. Many of them are pushing for features they want or dream of, rather than providing any factual information. SMART manufacturers do everything they can to keep their developments secret until they know they can deliver them. Still, you can Google "new camera rumors" and find more reading than you can consume in a lifetime.

Modern cameras can potentially last longer in the market, since they have updatable firmware. A manufacturer can introduce new features, tweak existing ones, refine capabilities... So cameras can become more than they are at launch. The four principal mirrorless camera makers (Fujifilm, Olympus, Panasonic, and Sony) have been very good about using firmware updates to add and refine features, rather than just fix bugs.

You can chase the latest and greatest, but if you need a camera today, you need it. Cameras have a market life of 12 to 48 months. The more capable they are, the longer they stay in the market. Lenses, on the other hand, are updated at much longer intervals (five to ten years, in many cases). My take is that you can always trade gear when you need to. So buy what you need and will actually use.

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May 24, 2017 09:30:52   #
mas24 Loc: Southern CA
 
tallguy56 wrote:
I am looking to buy a new camera and some of the models that I am considering were introduced in 2015. I don't want to buy a "new" camera and then find out that a newer version comes out shortly after my purchase.

My questions are....is there a time of year that camera manufacturers introduce new models? How can I find out what is in the manufacturer pipelines and their expected release dates?

Thanks in advance for any assistance.


Some cameras survive discontinued status and some do not. The D3300, which was an excellent entry level camera, superseded by the D3400, was not an upgrade IMO. The D7100 is about 4 years old, and is still in production because of its popularity. The D7100 just refuses to die.

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May 24, 2017 10:00:17   #
BIG ROB Loc: Princeton, NJ 08540
 
tallguy56 wrote:
Thanks to everyone for your quick responses. Once again UHH has proven to be a great resource. For those who were wondering, I am looking to shelve my Canon DSLR and move into the Bridge camera arena. Looking at Canon G3X and Lumix FZ1000.

Thanks again


The Canon G3X is a great camera if you want a compact. Right now B&HPhotovideo.com is offering it with a Canon rebate, with it's electronic viewfinder, which would be nice to have, for an after rebate price of $899.00.

But you must purchase one of 3 models of the Canon Pixma Photo One 1 or 10 or 100 model Printer's to qualify for
the rebate. Adorama has a similar deal, but they refuse to be upfront about it with me.

Take care!

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May 24, 2017 10:02:54   #
tallguy56
 
BIG ROB wrote:
The Canon G3X is a great camera if you want a compact. Right now B&HPhotovideo.com is offering it with a Canon rebate, with it's electronic viewfinder, which would be nice to have, for an after rebate price of $899.00.

But you must purchase one of 3 models of the Canon Pixma Photo One 1 or 10 or 100 model Printer's to qualify for
the rebate. Adorama has a similar deal, but they refuse to be upfront about it with me.

Take care!


Thanks....EVF is a must have for me.

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May 24, 2017 10:03:59   #
Jakebrake Loc: Broomfield, Colorado
 
boberic wrote:
A good strategy is to buy the "old" camera just a few months after it's new version is released as the price will come way down. If you always look for the "new" replacement you will never buy anything. Works with cars as well.


Agreed. With me being retired and on a fixed income I have to watch my GAS attacks quite closely. Therefore I buy one generation old gear. When the new Canon 5D MK III was released I started looking for a 5D MKII as an upgrade from my 50D on KEH, Adorama, B&H used, ebay and Craigs List. After a few months of searching I found on CL a 5D MKII in pristine condition like new in the box with all documentation, disc's and accessories with 27,512 shutter actuation's for $1000. I met the guy at my bank and put it through it's paces with a 24-105L, which I brought with me and it performed flawlessly. We ultimately agreed on $900, and I have been using it for the past couple of years with great results. (at least to me) I just can't see shelling out a price north of 3 grand for the newest, latest and greatest when a generation older fulfills my amateur needs, and allows me to pursue my hobby quite well.

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May 24, 2017 10:32:08   #
Jakebrake Loc: Broomfield, Colorado
 
Spider223 wrote:
I always take magazines to my doctors office when I have an appointment. I either take the front page off, or at least the address block off before I leave it. I don't want someone transferring my subscription with the info in the address block.


I do the same thing with magazines and books I have read to the VA Hospital for my appointments.

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May 24, 2017 10:56:56   #
billnikon Loc: Pennsylvania/Ohio/Florida/Maui/Oregon/Vermont
 
boberic wrote:
A good strategy is to buy the "old" camera just a few months after it's new version is released as the price will come way down. If you always look for the "new" replacement you will never buy anything. Works with cars as well.


Not bad, a better strategy is to wait about a year or two and wait for them to drastically reduce. Like the current D500, D750, and D810 Nikon's. What a deal.

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May 24, 2017 11:11:30   #
Wingpilot Loc: Wasilla. Ak
 
billnikon wrote:
Asian Prisoner Support Committee? Alaska Police Standards Council? Arkansas Public Service Commission? Asian Pacific Student Coalition? What?


Advanced Photo System type C

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May 24, 2017 11:24:15   #
billnikon Loc: Pennsylvania/Ohio/Florida/Maui/Oregon/Vermont
 
Wingpilot wrote:
Advanced Photo System type C


Many thanks, it is hard to keep up.

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May 24, 2017 11:24:19   #
burkphoto Loc: High Point, NC
 
CatMarley wrote:
New models are not often really "new" but only same old same old with a new gadget or two tacked on. It is more important to know when a company is coming out with a real advance such as a new processor or sensor - something that really changes the game. And then YOU have to decide whether it changes the game for you! Newer is not always better. I think the Nikon FM was Nikon's best camera ever! But that's just me.


Well, it took Panasonic over 80 pages to explain all the updates and upgrades they made in the GH5, compared to the GH4.

http://www.personal-view.com/downloads/GH5_Presentation.pdf

I read it all, and most of the online reviews of the GH5. I would certainly not call this an incremental upgrade. They addressed nearly all of the issues most of us had with the GH4.

The Big Four mirrorless camera providers (Fujifilm, Olympus, Panasonic, and Sony) are doing a lot of innovation. Canon and Nikon? Meh.

I had a Nikon FM for 7 years. It was a fine machine, a much better Nikkormat than the original Nikkormat. My AV production assistants and I wore it out! Its only flaw (for my needs) was not having a 100% accurate viewfinder with removable screens, which made it have limited use for slide duplication, multiple exposure/multiple image slide composition, and copy stand work. But my pin-registered F3HP did that...

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May 24, 2017 11:47:20   #
Tony.mustang
 
Nikon introduced a new model d7500 . Look it up and see if it meets your needs.

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May 24, 2017 11:49:29   #
speters Loc: Grangeville/Idaho
 
tallguy56 wrote:
I am looking to buy a new camera and some of the models that I am considering were introduced in 2015. I don't want to buy a "new" camera and then find out that a newer version comes out shortly after my purchase.

My questions are....is there a time of year that camera manufacturers introduce new models? How can I find out what is in the manufacturer pipelines and their expected release dates?

Thanks in advance for any assistance.

Oh boy, I hate to have your "mind set" when buying cameras, who gives a damn what the next generation of cameras will bring, when I buy a camera now and look at the specs that I want and that it has?

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May 24, 2017 11:50:46   #
John_F Loc: Minneapolis, MN
 
Judging waiting for something 'new' leads to the observation that the first camera & lens was a box and a round piece of glass in the 19th Century. Today every canera & lens is a box and a round piece of glass. So what are you waiting fir?

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