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Apr 2, 2017 09:12:09   #
abc1234 Loc: Elk Grove Village, Illinois
 
Billyspad wrote:
If your happy with the results you get that is all that matters.


Ditto.

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Apr 2, 2017 09:20:53   #
catchlight.. Loc: Wisconsin USA- Halden Norway
 
Gene51 wrote:
Five years from now you may find yourself coming to the following conclusions:

Raw is easier and faster to edit, requiring only modest skills.

JPEG is convenient, but results can vary widely, and they are harder to edit.

You can shoot Jpeg and get most of the tonal range you saw, if you are lucky, but you can be much more precise with raw, and you'll be able to take better advantage of your camera's full dynamic range.

Raw records more fine detail.

When you have to make broad adjustments, raw files are more "pliable."

An edited raw file is essentially incomplete - you still need a pixel editor to finish the majority of images.

In high contrast situations, settings that can produce an ok Jpeg will produce a similarly mediocre raw file. But properly exposing for the highlights, often resulting in darker looking images out of the camera, can produce stunningly beautiful images, that will always look better than the out of camera jpegs.

There is no real difference between an amateur and a pro with respect to image quality. Each is capable of both. The better distinction to make is between someone who takes his/her art seriously and a hack. Those who care and seek to make the best images they can will take the time to fully exploit the capabilites of their camera, and their images reflect the effort. This totally applies to both amateurs and pros alike.
Five years from now you may find yourself coming t... (show quote)


You said it perhaps "nicer than I"


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Apr 2, 2017 09:21:46   #
camerapapi Loc: Miami, Fl.
 
The RAW vs JPEG arguments continue to flourish ever so often in this forum. Which file is better? From my point of view it all depends.
For low light and for night photography I prefer RAW because it can control noise and banding better. In good light JPEG is usually a very good file that requires little editing and as you said uses less room in the media card.
I also agree with you, casual shooters do not need RAW files since they can do very well with JPEG images. Modern JPEG files, by the way are of excellent quality and they can be edited if they need to. I recommend saving those files as TIFF to preserve the images against future changes and when working with the original always make a copy and work on that. TIFF useless to say is a lossless file.
Nothing wrong shooting everything RAW if that is preferred but the photographer will spend more time in the computer and not all softwares can read RAW files like not all monitors can see wide color spaces like Adobe RGB since they were design to see the sRGB colors. Labs do not print RAW files.

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Apr 2, 2017 09:22:06   #
larrylee Loc: East Tennessee Mtns.
 
I shoot RAW in case I want to crop an image from my cameras full potential of 36 meg Raw rather then a shaved down JPEG. When you crop old uncle Bob out of that big family reunion shot, or that little critter way out yonder, the JPEGs are going to pixelize. Plus the JPEGs some times are off on white balance as others have mentioned: Larry

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Apr 2, 2017 09:22:31   #
DirtFarmer Loc: Escaped from the NYC area, back to MA
 
burkphoto wrote:
... I use both, for VERY different reasons...


If I were using both I would set the camera to shoot raw+jpg because otherwise there would come a time when I needed the raw file but I forgot to reset the camera after only needing jpg.

Of course if you only need jpg you can always use the jpg preview from the raw file. So it's only necessary to shoot raw.

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Apr 2, 2017 09:27:32   #
imagemeister Loc: mid east Florida
 
jerryc41 wrote:
I think it's more psychological than actual.


IMO, I believe, this is predominately true.......

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Apr 2, 2017 09:39:54   #
Kuzano
 
Well, at least you picked a Sunday to wander into the Church of RAW, and offend the Narcissistic Acolytes.

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Apr 2, 2017 09:45:54   #
cthahn
 
If you like what you are using, that is OK. Please do not tell everyone else what they should or have to do.

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Apr 2, 2017 09:50:24   #
streetmarty Loc: Brockton, Ma
 
viscountdriver wrote:
In the last few weeks I have read numerous article on Raw versus JPG. Then I took hundreds of pictures in both formats.I knew enthusiasts swear by RAW but I reached a conclusion. For the average amateur JPG Fine is what they should shoot.I have Corel Paint Brush Pro and this gives me tremendous opportunity to manipulate my shots and the average photographer would not be skill full enough to do the same in RAW. I don't need telling all the advantages of RAW and if I were a professional or a semi-professional I would use it.
I know a lot of people do not rate Ken Rockwell but he has the same conclusion.
Moden programmes made by Adobe,Serif and Corel are so good that is all the average shooter needs.
Finally,of course I can get more on my memory card as Raw does use a lot of space.
In the last few weeks I have read numerous article... (show quote)


Hello, I spent a lot of time with FF Nikons in the raw world and then I got onto Fuji. Now with the Fuji X-T2, SOOC jpegs are spec-tac-ular! Explore the following link for a professional view on the topic. Good luck. Marty

http://f16.click/tips/fuji-raw-v-jpeg.html

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Apr 2, 2017 09:54:07   #
imagemeister Loc: mid east Florida
 
blackest wrote:
I shoot raw because I can think of nothing better to do than post process photographs. Jpeg is far more suited to a hectic lifestyle.


Yes, if you are a computer geek, you will want to shoot RAW ....

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Apr 2, 2017 10:09:18   #
Ricinus Loc: Leduc Alberta
 
Being new to DSLRs, I enjoy the comments and thoughts. I had decided to shoot in RAW, but now I'm not sure if it's worth the time processing for me. I just have a so-so computer and monitor, I'm not sure I can do a better job than letting the camera decide and shoot JPEGs. Decisions, decisions.

Mike

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Apr 2, 2017 10:45:35   #
JohnSwanda Loc: San Francisco
 
With storage as cheap as it is these days, I can't see a downside to shooting RAW + JPEG, even if you don't use the RAW files right now. One day you might get a great shot you want to print large where the RAW file would make a difference. Or you may get more serious about photography in the future where you would want to go back and process RAW versions of your favorite shots.

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Apr 2, 2017 11:06:55   #
BobHartung Loc: Bettendorf, IA
 
viscountdriver wrote:
In the last few weeks I have read numerous article on Raw versus JPG. Then I took hundreds of pictures in both formats.I knew enthusiasts swear by RAW but I reached a conclusion. For the average amateur JPG Fine is what they should shoot.I have Corel Paint Brush Pro and this gives me tremendous opportunity to manipulate my shots and the average photographer would not be skill full enough to do the same in RAW. I don't need telling all the advantages of RAW and if I were a professional or a semi-professional I would use it.
I know a lot of people do not rate Ken Rockwell but he has the same conclusion.
Moden programmes made by Adobe,Serif and Corel are so good that is all the average shooter needs.
Finally,of course I can get more on my memory card as Raw does use a lot of space.
In the last few weeks I have read numerous article... (show quote)


You are free to have your own opinion and do things 'your' way. However, when printing a moderate sizes with subtle gradations of color and tone, a RAW image and 16-bit workflow are still supreme, IMHO.

The great thing about RAW, is that I can go back to old files and reprocess them from the original data, adding newly acquired knowledge and understanding of the process. So for me - only RAW.

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Apr 2, 2017 11:35:54   #
viscountdriver Loc: East Kent UK
 
Reading up some more to try and get the right answer I read an opinion which made me chuckle.It said ,Raw is an excuse for sloppy shutter work. Everyone has their own opinion and, why not?

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Apr 2, 2017 11:49:06   #
cfbudd Loc: Atlanta, Georgia
 
jerryc41 wrote:
True. I shoot raw - just because. As you've no doubt read, raw always requires processing, especially to color and focus. JPEG can produce excellent results if you have correct lighting and exposure.


focus????

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