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Is there a time when aperture-priority is the optimum exposure mode?
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Mar 24, 2017 14:12:11   #
cfbudd Loc: Atlanta, Georgia
 
John Gerlach wrote:
I do pans and HDR and focus stacking/in-camera HDR combos, and HDR alone. I just select the aperture I want and to keep the same, and manually adjust the shutter to get to the same result as using aperture-priority. I don't have much luck with in-camera autobracketing because the camera shoots the series of images too fast, causing less sharp images due to shutter bounce.


OMG! How insane! That's what 'mirror up' and 'shutter delay' are for. Surely Canon's have those features.

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Mar 24, 2017 14:12:56   #
DMGill Loc: Colorado
 
John Gerlach wrote:
I haven't found the problem of light passing into the viewfinder and influencing the auto exposure to be no longer a problem...

I suspect that if your eye is behind the viewfinder, very little light will pass into the viewfinder unless you have a particularly bright eye.

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Mar 24, 2017 14:16:37   #
cfbudd Loc: Atlanta, Georgia
 
John Gerlach wrote:
I do pans and HDR and focus stacking/in-camera HDR combos, and HDR alone. I just select the aperture I want and to keep the same, and manually adjust the shutter to get to the same result as using aperture-priority. I don't have much luck with in-camera autobracketing because the camera shoots the series of images too fast, causing less sharp images due to shutter bounce.

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Mar 24, 2017 14:23:55   #
Mark W Loc: Camden, Maine
 
SOCIAL INTERACTION ?

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Mar 24, 2017 14:31:05   #
Bobspez Loc: Southern NJ, USA
 
John Gerlach, it's hard to imagine you haven't come across these on your own. Maybe I'm missing something,
1. Maximum depth of field... wide open lens.
2. Minimum depth of field... lens closed down.
3. Stars... wide open lens, timed exposure, base iso.
4. Hummingbirds ... very bright flash, very fast shutter speed, very small aperture to increase depth of field.

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Mar 24, 2017 14:42:08   #
cfbudd Loc: Atlanta, Georgia
 
John Gerlach wrote:
Hi Hogs,

I am about to begin the second revision of my landscape photography book by Focal Press.? Exposure and metering are important skills to master. Over 40 years of photographing close-ups, wildlife. and countless landscapes for fun and to earn a living, I have never found a situation where aperture-priority works better than the other choices I prefer that include shutter-priority, manual, shutter-priority and Auto ISO, or just manually setting a known exposure for stuff too small to meter like stars. Can any one think of a situation where aperture-priority really works best in case it should be in the updated book. I never have found a reason to use aperture-priority, but that doesn't mean there aren't any! Thanks for considering this question.
Hi Hogs, br br I am about to begin the second rev... (show quote)


This is all a gigantic spoof! And we UHH'ers have wasted 10 pages so far. Refer to your own writing, John. "Aperture-priority-is probably the most widely used exposure mode of serious photographers.", and "Barbara prefers Aperture-priority-", page 62 of your and Barbara's book, "Digital Wildlife Photography", Focal Press, 2013.

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Mar 24, 2017 14:53:17   #
Bobspez Loc: Southern NJ, USA
 
Thanks for exposing the OP as a fraud. I guess that is what I was missing. Something didn't make sense about a photographer with 40 years experience never having a reason to use aperture priority mode.
cfbudd wrote:
This is all a gigantic spoof! And we UHH'ers have wasted 10 pages so far. Refer to your own writing, John. "Aperture-priority-is probably the most widely used exposure mode of serious photographers.", and "Barbara prefers Aperture-priority-", page 62 of your and Barbara's book, "Digital Wildlife Photography", Focal Press, 2013.

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Mar 24, 2017 15:01:03   #
cfbudd Loc: Atlanta, Georgia
 
John Gerlach wrote:
Hi Hogs,

I am about to begin the second revision of my landscape photography book by Focal Press.? Exposure and metering are important skills to master. Over 40 years of photographing close-ups, wildlife. and countless landscapes for fun and to earn a living, I have never found a situation where aperture-priority works better than the other choices I prefer that include shutter-priority, manual, shutter-priority and Auto ISO, or just manually setting a known exposure for stuff too small to meter like stars. Can any one think of a situation where aperture-priority really works best in case it should be in the updated book. I never have found a reason to use aperture-priority, but that doesn't mean there aren't any! Thanks for considering this question.
Hi Hogs, br br I am about to begin the second rev... (show quote)


"-so aperture priority is often used by landscape photographers.", page 65 of the original Focal Press book by John and Barbara Gerlach on the subject of landscape photography, "Digital Landscape Photography".

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Mar 24, 2017 15:01:24   #
cjc2 Loc: Hellertown PA
 
I prefer to always be in control of aperture so I use this mode, or some variety of it a lot. For things like sports action, I shoot wide open. For portraits and landscapes I prefer to choose and set my own depending upon​ my desired results. Best of luck with your book.

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Mar 24, 2017 15:04:43   #
John Gerlach Loc: Island Park, Idaho
 
this is true, but skilled photographers tend to use tripods and don't have their eye to the viewfinder to prevent camera shake, especially for landscapes and macri.
DMGill wrote:
I suspect that if your eye is behind the viewfinder, very little light will pass into the viewfinder unless you have a particularly bright eye.

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Mar 24, 2017 15:21:01   #
John Gerlach Loc: Island Park, Idaho
 
What I said in the book years ago is likely true. I do believe most photographers probably prefer aperture-priority (perhaps as they do today), and so did Barbar back then. I tried it years ago when I first went to digital in 2003, but the problems it created were so serious I soon abandoned it. And I have rarely used it for any reason since. Prior to 2003, I only used manual with film, so I did not find out how often light in the viewfinder caused underexposure. I avoided that problem accidently by just using manual exposure with film, but digital made the pitfalls readily evident. So back to manual, especially for landscapes for many reasons. If you don't think you have a light through the viewfinder problem with your system, try this test. Put the camera on any auto mode and a polarizer over the lens. Point the camera at a dark area in the shade, but arrange the camera so sun can shine into the uncovered viewfinder. Look at the auto exposure that is set by the camera. Now cover the viewfinder with your hand or close the curtain. If there is a difference, that is the problem. If the unblocked viewfinder says 1/8 second at f/16, and the covered viewfinder says 1/30 at f/16, that means the image will be seriously too dark with auto exposure due to ambient passing into the viewfinder.

Bobspez wrote:
Thanks for exposing the OP as a fraud. I guess that is what I was missing. Something didn't make sense about a photographer with 40 years experience never having a reason to use aperture priority mode.

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Mar 24, 2017 15:25:52   #
buddingfatographer Loc: Nashville
 
cfbudd wrote:
This is all a gigantic spoof! And we UHH'ers have wasted 10 pages so far. Refer to your own writing, John. "Aperture-priority-is probably the most widely used exposure mode of serious photographers.", and "Barbara prefers Aperture-priority-", page 62 of your and Barbara's book, "Digital Wildlife Photography", Focal Press, 2013.


So what's the big conspiracy here? Are you insinuating that the OP is trying to pretend like he doesn't know what AP is? What's the motive? There has to be a motive! And basing your prosecution on the limited quotes you've provided, that "AP is probably the most widely used exposure mode for serious photographers" proves his "spoof?" He stated that it is widely used... not that he personally uses it or that he understands or sees a purpose for others using it. And on to exibit 2 of your evidence... "Barbara prefers AP." Well... Barbara isn't asking the question in the post... and asking on a forum to obtain a wide variety of responses would appear to me to be an obvious approach if you were wanting to mention a mode that you don't often use in a book. The word research comes to mind. You don't survey one person, not Barbara or anyone else. You cast the net wide and see what you come up with. It's funny to me that you guys are putting John on the cross because you believe that he's trying to make it appear that he doesn't know what AP is. He hasn't said that once... and hasn't claimed at all, in whole or in part that he has no clue what it is... never heard of it. He simply asked who uses it and why. Your evidence is baseless. When I'm a professional, and after 40 years experience (in 40 years), I can guarantee I'll never ask a question if this is the result... you guys are something else. Why buy a book in the first place... does anyone here not know how to expose a photograph with a camera? Anyone? Oh... there are other ways to do it? Maybe a way you aren't used to? Good grief! Like editing... if you send a raw file to 100 different people and ask them to edit it, you think you'll get 2 that are identical? Asking how others use a tool and why and gets pounded by "fellow" photographers? SHAMEFUL!

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Mar 24, 2017 15:34:07   #
davidrb Loc: Half way there on the 45th Parallel
 
John Gerlach wrote:
What I said in the book years ago is likely true. I do believe most photographers probably prefer aperture-priority (perhaps as they do today), and so did Barbar back then. I tried it years ago when I first went to digital in 2003, but the problems it created were so serious I soon abandoned it. And I have rarely used it for any reason since. Prior to 2003, I only used manual with film, so I did not find out how often light in the viewfinder caused underexposure. I avoided that problem accidently by just using manual exposure with film, but digital made the pitfalls readily evident. So back to manual, especially for landscapes for many reasons. If you don't think you have a light through the viewfinder problem with your system, try this test. Put the camera on any auto mode and a polarizer over the lens. Point the camera at a dark area in the shade, but arrange the camera so sun can shine into the uncovered viewfinder. Look at the auto exposure that is set by the camera. Now cover the viewfinder with your hand or close the curtain. If there is a difference, that is the problem. If the unblocked viewfinder says 1/8 second at f/16, and the covered viewfinder says 1/30 at f/16, that means the image will be seriously too dark with auto exposure due to ambient passing into the viewfinder.
What I said in the book years ago is likely true. ... (show quote)


Canon includes something they call the eyepiece cover (high-tech). It is a small piece of rubber that is fit onto the beloved camera strap. Canon recommends using it whenever the eyepiece is unused by the shooter. The 1 DX has one built in the viewfinder but all the other Canons I own came with the rubber piece. Why would someone not use this?

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Mar 24, 2017 15:41:05   #
Certo Loc: Western North Carolina & Near Gulf of Mexico
 
Since my first SLR in 1984, a Canon AE1-P and my first How-To photography book, I've shot manual. I doubt I shot a half dozen images in P mode and I used Shutter Priority only for metering. Once an aperture was suggested I chose, often bracketing, what I wanted. Since the AE1-P did not offer Aperture Priority, I'd mentally calculated what I wanted for DoF. Thirty-three years later, I cannot imagine shooting without Aperture Priority, especially for people still learning to ace exposures with their gear. It's hard to imagine any serious discussion of photography excluding the power of DoF, across its entire spectrum from isolation to inclusion.

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Mar 24, 2017 15:51:35   #
Jjackko
 
How about when going for selective focus and depth of field

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