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Mar 4, 2017 23:22:02   #
gessman Loc: Colorado
 
bkellyusa wrote:
"Thank You" for your thoughts and the suggestions you made. I appreciate your detailed responses. Thanks for taking your time to respond.

You are the second person to recommend 500pix and viewbug. I've already looked at 500pix and plan to sign up tonight. Viewbug is totally new to me. I am going to look into it tooight.

Are you on either of those sites. If you are let me know how I find you.

I am going to put you on my Buddy List if that is OK with you. I'd like to make an effort to keep up with what you are posting.

Thanks again. Brian
"Thank You" for your thoughts and the su... (show quote)


Brian, I'm not on either of those sites. I'm just an old hobbyist duffer who enjoys the chase of trying to catch things we don't often see a lot of so my images, compared to yours, and current day trends, are unfinished and not worthy of competing or trying to sell. I just do it for my enjoyment and to keep me active and limber and let it go at that. Please feel free to put me on your buddy list if you choose but I may go a long time not saying anything - I take it in spurts. This forum is addictive and not a very good way to spend your time if you're very ambitious. The more time you spend here the less time you have for other things that will further your interests much more. PalePictures might be able to suggest ways you can better spend your time than getting bogged down in this forum.

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Mar 4, 2017 23:42:07   #
bkellyusa Loc: Nashville, TN
 
gessman wrote:
Brian, I'm not on either of those sites. I'm just an old hobbyist duffer who enjoys the chase of trying to catch things we don't often see a lot of so my images, compared to yours, and current day trends, are unfinished and not worthy of competing or trying to sell. I just do it for my enjoyment and to keep me active and limber and let it go at that. Please feel free to put me on your buddy list if you choose but I may go a long time not saying anything - I take it in spurts. This forum is addictive and not a very good way to spend your time if you're very ambitious. The more time you spend here the less time you have for other things that will further your interests much more. PalePictures might be able to suggest ways you can better spend your time than getting bogged down in this forum.
Brian, I'm not on either of those sites. I'm just... (show quote)


We are booth running on the same track. I am retired. I am not looking to get involved in anything other than my family, friends, music and photography. Don't worry about me getting to involved I am sort of allergic to the internet. Last night, out of respect and appreciation for their efforts, I tried to respond to as many people as possible on this thread. It ate up a lot of time. I cannot afford to spend too much time on the internet.

I already joined viewbug. I loved all of the pictures on their.

PalePictures comments were meaningful to me. I put him on my Buddies List as well.

Thanks again.

Thanks for your help

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Mar 4, 2017 23:54:14   #
bkellyusa Loc: Nashville, TN
 
PalePictures wrote:
If you go to viewbug.
Look at the badges,
To find the best of the best on Viewbug.
Look for Viewbug Endorsed and Viewbug Editor.
You will notice that they(those photographers) specialize in one area.

Go to a photographers profile and select the about to look at badges.
Those badges will be first.
They are very hard to get.
an image example
https://www.viewbug.com/photo/63965647
example of kenvin's badges

I signed up on viewbug jsut like you suggested. Thanks for yur help.
https://www.viewbug.com/member/kenvinpinardy#/kenvinpinardy/bio
His entire portfolio
https://www.viewbug.com/member/kenvinpinardy
If you go to viewbug. br Look at the badges, br To... (show quote)

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Mar 5, 2017 00:30:01   #
btbg
 
bkellyusa,
You have been given some good advice. Composition, lighting, practice, post processing, studying other photographers, etc is all excellent.

However, I think there are a couple of things that people have left out. It is possible to take technically good photos of any subject, but having a better understanding of the subject makes the success rate better.

I'm a sports photographer. When I shoot sports that I understand completely, it is easier for me to be in the right spot at the right time and anticipate the action. Timing is a big issue in sports that I don't fully understand or have limited practice at.

So, know your subject. The better you understand your subject the better you will be able to put yourself in the right place at the right time.

Second, don't just practice, experiment. Since you like night photography try different portions of the night. For example dusk has very different colors than midnight, which has very different colors than pre-dawn and than dawn.

It is easier to balance light and dark when there is still some ambient light in the sky. Wind is often more calm in pre-dawn settings. Use your knowledge of the differences that you observe in times of night to adjust your photography.

Experiment with what times of night you like best. Experiment with the phases of the moon. Experiment with your exposure times and f stops. Experiment with shooting single images versus shooting hdr. Shoot with fill flash. Shoot with flash with colored gels in front of the flash. Shoot on a tripod. Shoot handheld. See what gives you results that are most like what you envisioned.

When you find things that work well file them away and duplicate them until you become proficient.. When something fails look at why it failed. Did it fail because the composition was poor? Did it fail because you have blown out highlights. Did it fail because the shadows are so deep that they ran to black when you wanted at least a hint of details in them.

Don't be afraid to fail. You can learn a lot from failure. Making mistakes is often how people learn. It is learning not to repeat mistakes that makes us better.

For what it's worth I also like to shoot night photography. I love neon, storefronts, not so much, but restaurant and bar windows absolutely. I love nighttime outside concerts and painting with light, but the thing is I don't really have the time to practice much, since I work 60 hours a week and much of my work is already at night. I can't shoot a game that gets out at 10, and then go shoot the streets at night because I have an early morning deadline and have to get my photos to the paper.

The end result is I don't always get the results that I hope for when I do shoot nighttime photos. Still I find that the more I'm out at night the better I understand what it is I'm shooting.

One other thing you might look at is what equipment you use. I've found that I tend to get better results when I use the camera on a tripod with my pocket wizards or a remote control to fire my shutter instead of using my finger. Remote controls eliminate the possibility that I bump the camera and make the image shaky. Most remote controls also let you set exactly how long your shutter is open. That may not seem like a big deal to many on this forum, but most cameras don't go any longer than 30 second exposures before you have to set the shutter on bulb to get a longer exposure. By using a remote control that has a timer on it you can get more consistent exposure times, making it easier to duplicate your work.

Hope that some of this helps. Thanks for sharing your flckr photos, you have some nice stuff there, but I notice that most of it is taken either in daylight or in lighting that doesn't seem to really matter whether they were shot in day or nighttime.

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Mar 5, 2017 00:54:13   #
PalePictures Loc: Traveling
 
gessman wrote:
Hey Russ. Good to see you. It's been a spell.


Good to see you too.
I'll be out for a while, to much time on this site is not good.
You are Spot on as usual

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Mar 5, 2017 12:27:37   #
blackest Loc: Ireland
 
bkellyusa wrote:
Here are a few of the photos I've taken. Some of them may be older and done with a cheap point and shoot. The cat with the deer at the window for example. Some were taken when I was still learning to use the camera. Others, particularly the pictures of my motorcycle were taken with my cellphone and others are more like personal favorites than anything else but it will give anyone interested an idea of what I like and what I photograph. Generally speaking I like to take pictures at night. The weird effects that artificial lighting creates on color and tone fascinates me. The odd results I get with mixed lighting sources also fascinates me.

Fire away.

https://www.flickr.com/photos/26453594@N02/
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Ok here's a question for you. Which of those photographs have you taken and which are ripped off from other photographers, such as the cat with the deer for example?

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Mar 5, 2017 12:33:22   #
PalePictures Loc: Traveling
 
blackest wrote:
Ok here's a question for you. Which of those photographs have you taken and which are ripped off from other photographers, such as the cat with the deer for example?


http://www.flickr.com/photos/26453594@N02/32768668461/

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Mar 5, 2017 12:36:58   #
blackest Loc: Ireland
 
PalePictures wrote:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/26453594@N02/32768668461/


http://www.uglyhedgehog.com/t-445969-1.html

I thought it looked familiar. I remember it being stolen before.


These links are from 2015

http://www.uglyhedgehog.com/t-352145-1.html
http://www.uglyhedgehog.com/t-352555-1.html
http://www.uglyhedgehog.com/t-354609-1.html

http://lefunny.net/let-us-in-please-its-cold-outside/

http://www.dumpaday.com/random-pictures/pictures-of-the-day-52-pics/attachment/amazing-pictures-4-3/ (november 2012)

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Mar 5, 2017 12:46:45   #
canon Lee
 
bkellyusa wrote:
I'm an intermediate photographer and probably not even an advanced one. As it is now I've read tons of books, listened to a thousand hours of instructive videos and bought at least 5 five course on photography. I started as an absolute beginner about 3 years ago. I'm now at a point where I am buying instructional material that spends a lot time going over stuff I already know. What's next? What books or other instructive material would help me get to the next level. I'm already studying books on art but I don't know if I have the best ones for photography. Please advise?
I'm an intermediate photographer and probably not ... (show quote)


Well my advice is to put your intensive reading and study to the test by booking some paid shoots. Nothing would be more helpful to advance your talents. I suggest that you offer your services for free as a second shooter at a wedding. Learn from the pros on the job.

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Mar 5, 2017 13:42:23   #
bkellyusa Loc: Nashville, TN
 
blackest wrote:
Ok here's a question for you. Which of those photographs have you taken and which are ripped off from other photographers, such as the cat with the deer for example?


Why would you ask a question like that?

That cat I absolutely did myself with a cheap point and shoot years ago and long before my interest in photography. It was taken at my
house. We still have that window and deck as seen in the photograph.

That site was not started as a way of promoting my own photography but more of a personal site. It was never really intended to display my best work but only entertain my family and friends who already know the background story on those photos. As a result there are two pictures on there that are collaborations. One is the picture of my son-in-law with our grandson. My daughter who is a professional photographer took the original shot. Our family liked it but it didn't stand out to anyone but me so I cropped it, did all of the post processing and added the "posterized" effect. It was done before I was really into photography so I took it to someone I knew who had a Photoshop program and told them what I wanted. They did the work. Now, both my wife and I and our daughter have that picture framed and hanging in our homes.

The other collaboration is the neon-ized photo taken at the New Orleans Mardi Gras Museum. I took the picture and my daughter showed me the neon effect. while teaching me to use my new Photoshop program.

You had me worried so I've looked at all of those pictures again. I've saved pictures on my computer for years that were a collection of my own photographs a others that I liked by other photographers so it would be possible that I mistakenly used someone else's photo but these are all personal photographs taken around my home or in the area where I live or during my wife and I's long motorcycle trips.

If you don't mind my asking what made you think I had ripped any of these off? As it is I am a little shy abut posting my pictures anyway and posting someone's pictures and claiming they are mine is really out of the question.

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Mar 5, 2017 13:59:43   #
CHG_CANON Loc: the Windy City
 
bkellyusa wrote:
Why would you ask a question like that?

That cat I absolutely did myself with a cheap point and shoot years ago and long before my interest in photography. It was taken at my
house. We still have that window and deck as seen in the photograph. ... //// ....
Although you've learned enough to manipulate EXIF data to 'claim' your own authorship of the images you're posting in your Flickr stream ... You haven't learned enough about computers to know how to search the same image posted across the internet ...

As others are already posting to your thread, you picked the wrong forum and the wrong image as this specific image has been discussed in the past ... A simple google of "Cat and the Deer window" shows this is likely not your original work regardless of your claim ...

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Mar 5, 2017 14:04:27   #
bkellyusa Loc: Nashville, TN
 


Palefacce,

Oh wow! I just looked through your links and saw my picture posted on the last to website. One is funny something and the and the other is Dumpaday. I am shocked! There si no doubt that that is my photo. I still live in the home it was taken in years ago on a cheap point and shoot. I already contacted the first one but I don't know what I should do. I don't mind them posting it but I would like to be given credit for it.

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Mar 5, 2017 14:08:05   #
blackest Loc: Ireland
 
bkellyusa wrote:
Why would you ask a question like that?

That cat I absolutely did myself with a cheap point and shoot years ago and long before my interest in photography. It was taken at my
house. We still have that window and deck as seen in the photograph.

That site was not started as a way of promoting my own photography but more of a personal site. It was never really intended to display my best work but only entertain my family and friends who already know the background story on those photos. As a result there are two pictures on there that are collaborations. One is the picture of my son-in-law with our grandson. My daughter who is a professional photographer took the original shot. Our family liked it but it didn't stand out to anyone but me so I cropped it, did all of the post processing and added the "posterized" effect. It was done before I was really into photography so I took it to someone I knew who had a Photoshop program and told them what I wanted. They did the work. Now, both my wife and I and our daughter have that picture framed and hanging in our homes.

The other collaboration is the neon-ized photo taken at the New Orleans Mardi Gras Museum. I took the picture and my daughter showed me the neon effect. while teaching me to use my new Photoshop program.

You had me worried so I've looked at all of those pictures again. I've saved pictures on my computer for years that were a collection of my own photographs a others that I liked by other photographers so it would be possible that I mistakenly used someone else's photo but these are all personal photographs taken around my home or in the area where I live or during my wife and I's long motorcycle trips.

If you don't mind my asking what made you think I had ripped any of these off? As it is I am a little shy abut posting my pictures anyway and posting someone's pictures and claiming they are mine is really out of the question.
Why would you ask a question like that? br br T... (show quote)


These three are from around the internet and are stolen from an UHH member Marilyn colo43. I remember back in 2015 when her photo was stolen by a company that was putting it on mugs and such like. You are not the only person who has misappropriated this photo, perhaps the first to rename her cat!

http://www.dumpaday.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/11/amazing-pictures-4.jpg

http://lefunny.net/wp-content/uploads/2012/09/Let-us-in-please.-Its-cold-outside.jpg

This is a low res version of your image on flickr, how on earth did you manage to take a shot so similar to the previous 2 ?

http://c1.staticflickr.com/3/2645/32768668461_8f80c9cfbb_n.jpg

clearly 'your' photo is the same photo.

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Mar 5, 2017 14:24:35   #
tdekany Loc: Oregon
 
bkellyusa wrote:
Palefacce,

Oh wow! I just looked through your links and saw my picture posted on the last to website. One is funny something and the and the other is Dumpaday. I am shocked! There si no doubt that that is my photo. I still live in the home it was taken in years ago on a cheap point and shoot. I already contacted the first one but I don't know what I should do. I don't mind them posting it but I would like to be given credit for it.


I have no idea what is going on, but all you need to do is snap a quick shot of that glass door like in the picture without the animals. Also, is your daughter really a professional photographer?

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Mar 5, 2017 14:24:53   #
Erv Loc: Medina Ohio
 
Wow!! We give you all this help and you are taking others picture and telling us you took them!!! I have no words that I would like to call you right now!!!

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