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Feb 23, 2013 21:42:42   #
ted45 Loc: Delaware
 
Bmac wrote:
pounder35 wrote:
roger allen wrote:
DennisK wrote:
ted45 wrote:
roger allen wrote:
DennisK wrote:
roger allen wrote:
that is so much hog-wash it is begining to stink - Why do you tea types live in such fear of what you dont like. the government is not coming after you -
you simply lost an election because you are out of touch with what the American people want- and i am begning to wonder if the lot of you have lost touch with reality.

What would YOU know of reality? Pull your head out of your ass for a minute and you'd realize that the guvment has been coming after us for a long time now.
quote=roger allen that is so much hog-wash it is ... (show quote)


well pull your head out of your ass and learn to spell - it is government you teabag idiot - go back to school or at least learn to use spell check- lol boo!
quote=DennisK quote=roger allen that is so much ... (show quote)


You keep assuming that people you disagree with are "teabag" people. If you can respond without abuse and use real logic I would be curious what brings you to that assumption. Do you even know what is meant by the term "Teabag Party". Keep in mind there is no such political party in existence.
quote=roger allen quote=DennisK quote=roger all... (show quote)

Come on Ted. Can't you see 'ol Roger ain't right in the head? Give the poor miscreant a break.
quote=ted45 quote=roger allen quote=DennisK qu... (show quote)


hey stick it up your ass you piece of right wing shit !
quote=DennisK quote=ted45 quote=roger allen qu... (show quote)


So much for tolerance. Can't we all just get along? And the right wing is intolerant? :roll: :lol:
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Hahaha......Roger is a card isn't he. :lol:
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Roger is a proud, eloquent graduate of our liberal school system. Makes you proud to be an American! :roll:

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Feb 23, 2013 22:26:01   #
silver Loc: Santa Monica Ca.
 
rcirr wrote:
UP-2-IT wrote:
rcirr wrote:
ole sarg wrote:
It is more than a load of crap. It was not written by some marine it was .penned by some right wing hack!

I have news for you you will lose the next election too because of this kind of subversive nonsense!

I served with many a African American soldier. We bled, and we died and none of us considered our color, race or religion.

I guess this post was written by some Chicken Hawk and posted by the same!

Don't dishonor my flag with your crap!


Sarge, You are amazing! You can tell who authored something just by looking at it? For purposes of full disclosure, I have never served in the military (a fact I deeply regret) but do honor those who have. This was pounded into me by my father who earned 2 purple hearts as well as many other awards so I take it seriously. Therefore, my sincere to you and anyone else who has honorably worn the uniform.
Having said that, how can you make assumptions regarding the author of this post? I have often been confronted by servicemen or vets having opinions I would not think a member of the military (or former member) would have. This does not mean I do not respect their right to have that opinion.
I also think you are misunderstanding his reference to "white Christain Males" was not due to any racist proclivities...rather it is in response to that group (of which he and I are a member) which has become such a target to the forces of political correctness! As far as the next election, I have seen the Republican party been pronounced dead before...only to see them win huge victories.
Finally, whaile a lot of the changes in this country are just normal evoloution, there are a lot of changes being pushed politically that have been a loss to this country. There was a lot to be said for the Norman Rockwell America.

One last point...it's not just your flag!
quote=ole sarg It is more than a load of crap. It... (show quote)


No it's not just the Sarge's flag, it's mine as well, and I resent the hell out of the post, the lies and the crap he quotes as being the truth. I bet your Father was really proud of you.
quote=rcirr quote=ole sarg It is more than a loa... (show quote)


Ok...I can see where some of the statements may be subject to interpretation....but don't really see what specifically are lies. You must also keep in mind the context of the post. Exactly what are the lies? I do not fear truth..if there are false statements there, tell me what they are....how is it factually wrong?
Just for the record, my father was proud of me. I don't think it is your right to question that just because you disagree with something I posted however. I take that back...it is your right...it's just not very civil.
quote=UP-2-IT quote=rcirr quote=ole sarg It is ... (show quote)


Read the first and second paragraphs carefully. This is a racist rant and it is shameful and disgusting.

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Feb 23, 2013 22:58:51   #
C. David Loc: Wisconsin
 
pounder35 wrote:
Hanoverfarms wrote:
You should have expected that from any thinking, intelligent individual. You are one sick bigoted A hole. Get a life pounder. Your comments make you look like a complete fool.


I'm not bigoted at all. You make that assumption based on something I forwarded from another email. I didn't say I agreed or disagreed with the content. I just threw it out there to see what the response would be. So now I have another lab rat to work with. Thank you for your participation. As I see it right now, judging from the feedback of the so called "open minded" liberals you a venomous group that spews out as much hatred as the Klan. Keep going. The end of the maze is near. Then we'll try something a little more challenging. :thumbup:
quote=Hanoverfarms You should have expected that ... (show quote)


Really, Pounder, do you honestly believe that some narrow-minded folks are capable of trying to digest and/or be able to understand anything more than picking the lint out of their belly-buttons? :roll: 8-)

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Feb 23, 2013 23:09:23   #
pounder35 Loc: "Southeast of Disorder"
 
C. David wrote:
pounder35 wrote:
Hanoverfarms wrote:
You should have expected that from any thinking, intelligent individual. You are one sick bigoted A hole. Get a life pounder. Your comments make you look like a complete fool.


I'm not bigoted at all. You make that assumption based on something I forwarded from another email. I didn't say I agreed or disagreed with the content. I just threw it out there to see what the response would be. So now I have another lab rat to work with. Thank you for your participation. As I see it right now, judging from the feedback of the so called "open minded" liberals you a venomous group that spews out as much hatred as the Klan. Keep going. The end of the maze is near. Then we'll try something a little more challenging. :thumbup:
quote=Hanoverfarms You should have expected that ... (show quote)


Really, Pounder, do you honestly believe that some narrow-minded folks are capable of trying to digest and/or be able to understand anything more than picking the lint out of their belly-buttons? :roll: 8-)
quote=pounder35 quote=Hanoverfarms You should ha... (show quote)


Hard to see the lint in your belly button when you're head is stuck up your ass. But don't be too harsh C. Sometimes you just have to pity the fools. To paraphrase Mr. T. :thumbup:



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Feb 23, 2013 23:10:33   #
C. David Loc: Wisconsin
 
pounder35 wrote:
C. David wrote:
pounder35 wrote:
Hanoverfarms wrote:
You should have expected that from any thinking, intelligent individual. You are one sick bigoted A hole. Get a life pounder. Your comments make you look like a complete fool.


I'm not bigoted at all. You make that assumption based on something I forwarded from another email. I didn't say I agreed or disagreed with the content. I just threw it out there to see what the response would be. So now I have another lab rat to work with. Thank you for your participation. As I see it right now, judging from the feedback of the so called "open minded" liberals you a venomous group that spews out as much hatred as the Klan. Keep going. The end of the maze is near. Then we'll try something a little more challenging. :thumbup:
quote=Hanoverfarms You should have expected that ... (show quote)


Really, Pounder, do you honestly believe that some narrow-minded folks are capable of trying to digest and/or be able to understand anything more than picking the lint out of their belly-buttons? :roll: 8-)
quote=pounder35 quote=Hanoverfarms You should ha... (show quote)


Hard to see the lint in your belly button when you're head is stuck up your ass. But don't be too harsh C. Sometimes you just have to pity the fools. To paraphrase Mr. T. :thumbup:
quote=C. David quote=pounder35 quote=Hanoverfar... (show quote)


10-4.

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Feb 23, 2013 23:16:10   #
ted45 Loc: Delaware
 
silver wrote:
rcirr wrote:
UP-2-IT wrote:
rcirr wrote:
ole sarg wrote:
It is more than a load of crap. It was not written by some marine it was .penned by some right wing hack!

I have news for you you will lose the next election too because of this kind of subversive nonsense!

I served with many a African American soldier. We bled, and we died and none of us considered our color, race or religion.

I guess this post was written by some Chicken Hawk and posted by the same!

Don't dishonor my flag with your crap!


Sarge, You are amazing! You can tell who authored something just by looking at it? For purposes of full disclosure, I have never served in the military (a fact I deeply regret) but do honor those who have. This was pounded into me by my father who earned 2 purple hearts as well as many other awards so I take it seriously. Therefore, my sincere to you and anyone else who has honorably worn the uniform.
Having said that, how can you make assumptions regarding the author of this post? I have often been confronted by servicemen or vets having opinions I would not think a member of the military (or former member) would have. This does not mean I do not respect their right to have that opinion.
I also think you are misunderstanding his reference to "white Christain Males" was not due to any racist proclivities...rather it is in response to that group (of which he and I are a member) which has become such a target to the forces of political correctness! As far as the next election, I have seen the Republican party been pronounced dead before...only to see them win huge victories.
Finally, whaile a lot of the changes in this country are just normal evoloution, there are a lot of changes being pushed politically that have been a loss to this country. There was a lot to be said for the Norman Rockwell America.

One last point...it's not just your flag!
quote=ole sarg It is more than a load of crap. It... (show quote)


No it's not just the Sarge's flag, it's mine as well, and I resent the hell out of the post, the lies and the crap he quotes as being the truth. I bet your Father was really proud of you.
quote=rcirr quote=ole sarg It is more than a loa... (show quote)


Ok...I can see where some of the statements may be subject to interpretation....but don't really see what specifically are lies. You must also keep in mind the context of the post. Exactly what are the lies? I do not fear truth..if there are false statements there, tell me what they are....how is it factually wrong?
Just for the record, my father was proud of me. I don't think it is your right to question that just because you disagree with something I posted however. I take that back...it is your right...it's just not very civil.
quote=UP-2-IT quote=rcirr quote=ole sarg It is ... (show quote)


Read the first and second paragraphs carefully. This is a racist rant and it is shameful and disgusting.
quote=rcirr quote=UP-2-IT quote=rcirr quote=ol... (show quote)


I did read them several times and I can't see his point. How exactly is what he wrote and example of right-wing mythology?

I don't think the two paragraphs are racist. It appears to be a historical accounting of the battle of Bunker Hill in the first paragraph and then a revision in the second. Pointing out that black men served willingly in battle is not racist.

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Feb 23, 2013 23:59:36   #
jjwright71 Loc: Lubbock,Tx
 
UP-2-IT wrote:
pounder35 wrote:
Written by a USMC Vietnam Vet

A dear WW II Marine Friend sent this along to us ~ his comment: "Just had to pass along because it kind of sums it all up." ~ The Rocking P

The American Dream ended (on November 6th) in Ohio. The second term
of Barack Obama will be the final nail in the coffin for the legacy of
the white Christian males who discovered, explored, pioneered,
settled and developed the greatest Republic in the history of mankind.

A coalition of Blacks, Latinos, Feminists, Gays, Government Workers,
Union Members, Environmental Extremists, The Media, Hollywood,
uninformed young people, the "forever needy," the chronically
unemployed, illegal aliens and other "fellow travelers" have ended
Norman Rockwell's America.

The Cocker Spaniel is off the front porch...the Pit Bull is in the backyard!!!!!

The American Constitution has been replaced with Saul Alinsky's "Rules
for Radicals" and Chicago shyster, David Axelrod, along with
international Socialist George Soros will be pulling the strings on
their beige puppet to bring us act 2 of the New World Order!!!!!

Our side ran two candidates who couldn't even win their
own home states, and the circus fatster Chris Christie helped Obama
over the top with a glowing "post Sandy" tribute that elevated the
"Commander-in-Chief" to Mother Teresa status. People like me are
completely politically irrelevant, and I will never again comment on
or concern myself with the aforementioned coalition which has
surrendered our culture, our heritage and our traditions without a
shot being fired!!

You will never again out vote these people. It will take individual acts of
defiance and massive displays of civil disobedience to get back the
rights we have allowed them to take away. It will take Zealots, not
moderates -- not reach-across-the-aisle RINOs to right this ship and
restore our beloved country to its former status.

Those who come after us will have to risk their lives, their fortunes
and their sacred honor to bring back the Republic that this generation
has timidly frittered away due to "white guilt" and political
correctness.....

I’m done!




--
James I. Goldsmith Sr.
Written by a USMC Vietnam Vet br br A dear WW II... (show quote)


It's a shame your friend is so confused and misdirected. Why in the world would you want to see us back in the mud hole that our President is struggleing to pull us out of.


Written by a US Navy Vietnam vet.
quote=pounder35 Written by a USMC Vietnam Vet br ... (show quote)
well US navy vietnam vet ,you aint seen a mudhole yet ,HAR!

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Feb 24, 2013 00:00:59   #
jjwright71 Loc: Lubbock,Tx
 
rcirr wrote:
UP-2-IT wrote:
rcirr wrote:
ole sarg wrote:
It is more than a load of crap. It was not written by some marine it was .penned by some right wing hack!

I have news for you you will lose the next election too because of this kind of subversive nonsense!

I served with many a African American soldier. We bled, and we died and none of us considered our color, race or religion.

I guess this post was written by some Chicken Hawk and posted by the same!PS he wrote this lil thing form canada

Don't dishonor my flag with your crap!
It is more than a load of crap. It was not written... (show quote)


Sarge, You are amazing! You can tell who authored something just by looking at it? For purposes of full disclosure, I have never served in the military (a fact I deeply regret) but do honor those who have. This was pounded into me by my father who earned 2 purple hearts as well as many other awards so I take it seriously. Therefore, my sincere to you and anyone else who has honorably worn the uniform.
Having said that, how can you make assumptions regarding the author of this post? I have often been confronted by servicemen or vets having opinions I would not think a member of the military (or former member) would have. This does not mean I do not respect their right to have that opinion.
I also think you are misunderstanding his reference to "white Christain Males" was not due to any racist proclivities...rather it is in response to that group (of which he and I are a member) which has become such a target to the forces of political correctness! As far as the next election, I have seen the Republican party been pronounced dead before...only to see them win huge victories.
Finally, whaile a lot of the changes in this country are just normal evoloution, there are a lot of changes being pushed politically that have been a loss to this country. There was a lot to be said for the Norman Rockwell America.

One last point...it's not just your flag!
quote=ole sarg It is more than a load of crap. It... (show quote)


No it's not just the Sarge's flag, it's mine as well, and I resent the hell out of the post, the lies and the crap he quotes as being the truth. I bet your Father was really proud of you.
quote=rcirr quote=ole sarg It is more than a loa... (show quote)


Ok...I can see where some of the statements may be subject to interpretation....but don't really see what specifically are lies. You must also keep in mind the context of the post. Exactly what are the lies? I do not fear truth..if there are false statements there, tell me what they are....how is it factually wrong?
Just for the record, my father was proud of me. I don't think it is your right to question that just because you disagree with something I posted however. I take that back...it is your right...it's just not very civil.
quote=UP-2-IT quote=rcirr quote=ole sarg It is ... (show quote)

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Feb 25, 2013 18:23:59   #
rcirr Loc: Gilbert, Arizona
 
sb wrote:
I love it when people claim that trying to make sure that all Americans have access to health care is somehow destroying the Constitution. They want to "take back America" - from the majority! These are treasonous words apparently spoken by racist embeciles who simply are upset that a black man far more intelligent then them is their president (and Commander in Chief). These same people never raised their voice when a conservative Republican president encarcerated an American without charges for over a year, lied us into a war which killed over 125,000 people, kidnapped people, tortured people, etc. By the way - I am concerned about my 2nd Amendment rights, but I am also concerned about ALL of my other constitutional rights as well.
I love it when people claim that trying to make su... (show quote)


Can you please tell me when "having access to health care" became equivalent with the government dictating what health care insurance we must buy? And of course, since I have the arrogance to suggest that I would like to "take back" the country from the policies of this administration, I am a traitor and one of a number of "racist embeciles who simply are upset that a black man far more intelligent then them is their president (and Commander in Chief)." I must be since I "never spoke up when a conservative Republican president encarcerated an American without charges for over a year, lied us into a war which killed over 125,000 people, kidnapped people, tortured people, etc."

Sir, there are so many things wrong in you post I don't know if I can respond to all of them but let me try. If you are going to make statements denigrating other people's intelligence, you might want to use the correct form of words and correct spelling. For example, in your phrase "far more intelligent then them" you should have said "far more intelligent than them". If you wanted to call people like me stupid, you might want to call them imbeciles, not embeciles. One last spelling correction, if you are describing detaining someone in jail or prison, the word is incarcerated, not encarcerated.
Now, as to the never speaking up when a conservative Republican did wrong, I did speak up about many things George Bush did (as did many conservatives). Yes, I voted for him but I did not agree with him on everything. Another thing you are wrong on is Bush isn't now and never was a conservative. George Bush was a moderate who spent too much trying to play nice with the Democrats. Setting that aside, you need to compare apples to apples. The only thing Obama did that was similar to things Bush did was the drone program. I approved of things Bush did to fight terrorists and I have agreed to things Obama has done (killing bin Ladin and the drone program are two examples). The bottom line is conservatives like me still believe the government dictating so much to the American people about their healthcare is contrary to the Constitution (Justice Robert's contorted ruling notwithstanding). Finally, I'd like to point out that the majority of this country is center right, has been for decades and will probably continue to be so for decades to come. Obama didn't win reelection because he represents the majority of this country. He won reelection because he is an excellent campaigner and he had the help of a liberal press.

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Feb 25, 2013 18:31:37   #
rcirr Loc: Gilbert, Arizona
 
ted45 wrote:
BW326 wrote:
jimbo70 wrote:
Watch Atlas Shrugged 1 & 2 to see where we are headed.


I remember reading Atlas Shrugged when I was in college but hadn't heard of the sequel movie so I looked up a writeup of it on Wikipedia

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Atlas_Shrugged:_Part_II

Is it supposed to be a comedy? It sounds hilarious.


I think it is funny how the youth of today cannot see the difference between a novel and actual history. This book has become a bible to many of them.
quote=BW326 quote=jimbo70 Watch Atlas Shrugged 1... (show quote)


They don't see it as history. On the contrary, they see what's happening today and see similarities in the story. They realize that the story is demonstrating what can happen when the government gets too powerful.

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Feb 25, 2013 19:15:34   #
ted45 Loc: Delaware
 
rcirr wrote:
ted45 wrote:
BW326 wrote:
jimbo70 wrote:
Watch Atlas Shrugged 1 & 2 to see where we are headed.


I remember reading Atlas Shrugged when I was in college but hadn't heard of the sequel movie so I looked up a writeup of it on Wikipedia

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Atlas_Shrugged:_Part_II

Is it supposed to be a comedy? It sounds hilarious.


I think it is funny how the youth of today cannot see the difference between a novel and actual history. This book has become a bible to many of them.
quote=BW326 quote=jimbo70 Watch Atlas Shrugged 1... (show quote)


They don't see it as history. On the contrary, they see what's happening today and see similarities in the story. They realize that the story is demonstrating what can happen when the government gets too powerful.
quote=ted45 quote=BW326 quote=jimbo70 Watch Atl... (show quote)


I understand your point but talk to some of them. They do see it as a guide to big business. It is a novel. Using that book to predict the future is not any different that using Blade Runner as a view of whats to come.

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Feb 25, 2013 20:14:31   #
pounder35 Loc: "Southeast of Disorder"
 
ted45 wrote:
rcirr wrote:
ted45 wrote:
BW326 wrote:
jimbo70 wrote:
Watch Atlas Shrugged 1 & 2 to see where we are headed.


I remember reading Atlas Shrugged when I was in college but hadn't heard of the sequel movie so I looked up a writeup of it on Wikipedia

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Atlas_Shrugged:_Part_II

Is it supposed to be a comedy? It sounds hilarious.


I think it is funny how the youth of today cannot see the difference between a novel and actual history. This book has become a bible to many of them.
quote=BW326 quote=jimbo70 Watch Atlas Shrugged 1... (show quote)


They don't see it as history. On the contrary, they see what's happening today and see similarities in the story. They realize that the story is demonstrating what can happen when the government gets too powerful.
quote=ted45 quote=BW326 quote=jimbo70 Watch Atl... (show quote)


I understand your point but talk to some of them. They do see it as a guide to big business. It is a novel. Using that book to predict the future is not any different that using Blade Runner as a view of whats to come.
quote=rcirr quote=ted45 quote=BW326 quote=jimb... (show quote)


You mean Blade Runner is not a documentary? Next you'll tell me Star Trek is fiction. I think you're part of a government cover up. :shock:

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Feb 25, 2013 20:18:28   #
RMM Loc: Suburban New York
 
rcirr wrote:
He won reelection because he is an excellent campaigner and he had the help of a liberal press.

Then how come he won a majority of the vote, as well as a majority of the electoral college votes? You sound like Romney, bemoaning how the election was "bought."

Deal with it.

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Feb 25, 2013 20:30:25   #
pounder35 Loc: "Southeast of Disorder"
 
RMM wrote:
rcirr wrote:
He won reelection because he is an excellent campaigner and he had the help of a liberal press.

Then how come he won a majority of the vote, as well as a majority of the electoral college votes? You sound like Romney, bemoaning how the election was "bought."

Deal with it.


When you have a voter base that is mostly uneducated and vote multiple times it's tough to win out over them. Now I'm sounding racist I guess. :roll:

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Feb 25, 2013 20:56:37   #
ted45 Loc: Delaware
 
pounder35 wrote:
RMM wrote:
rcirr wrote:
He won reelection because he is an excellent campaigner and he had the help of a liberal press.

Then how come he won a majority of the vote, as well as a majority of the electoral college votes? You sound like Romney, bemoaning how the election was "bought."

Deal with it.


When you have a voter base that is mostly uneducated and vote multiple times it's tough to win out over them. Now I'm sounding racist I guess. :roll:


Maybe your just being practical.

A local TV news channel was trying to show crowd reactions on election night. They went to the Obama headquarters to do some on the spot interviews. There was a long line of people getting checks. When the first three people in line were interviewed they did not know who Obama was, they said they came in and voted to get the money. The interview camera mysteriously broke down at that point and nothing else was shown.

Before I start getting flack, understand this is what I saw with my eyes on election night. Since nothing else appeared on any other station or in the news paper I have no way of verifing if what appeared to be going on was what was going on. Most of the people I talked to that saw it just shrugged their shoulders and said it was politics as usual in this area.

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