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Oct 25, 2011 04:02:16   #
Admin
 
A few people contacted me about setting up a new section for pictures to be used solely for advice and critique, as opposed to simply showing the photos.

The one problem I see with having two pictures sections is that people would be misplacing their topics. Those who simply want to show off a photo (not necessarily looking for critique) would sometimes post it in the advice section and vice versa.

So without clear guidelines, deciding what should go where and moving misplaced topics would be difficult.

One solution I see is having a restrictive set of rules for the advice section.
Something like:
- Must state the settings used for taking the picture (ISO, aperture, shutter speed, any body presets).
- Must describe the lighting (sources, intensity, locations, weather, etc.).
- Must list the gear (body, lenses, etc.)
- Must ask specific questions about either improving the existing picture in post or about retaking the shot.

Any topic that is placed in the advice section without the required info/questions gets moved into the pictures section.

Such set of rules would probably help with keeping the advice section focused on its intended purpose. But at the same time, I'm not sure what to do abut open-ended posts like "Here is a picture, how can I make it better?"

Any suggestions/opinions are welcome.

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Oct 25, 2011 04:06:24   #
Nikonian72 Loc: Chico CA
 
The new section can be called "Critique" or "Critique & Comments". No confusion there.

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Oct 25, 2011 05:33:44   #
BrandyVSOP Loc: Oregon USA
 
The Photo group I lead just has gone through this, and so far we are deciding that if you want "Critique / Comments / Advice etc " that you need to ask for it when you post your picture. Then people are free to comment on those, otherwise just be nice.

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Oct 25, 2011 05:58:40   #
TJ Loc: Austraila, Toowoomba.
 
Admin wrote:
A few people contacted me about setting up a new section for pictures to be used solely for advice and critique, as opposed to simply showing the photos.

The one problem I see with having two pictures sections is that people would be misplacing their topics. Those who simply want to show off a photo (not necessarily looking for critique) would sometimes post it in the advice section and vice versa.

So without clear guidelines, deciding what should go where and moving misplaced topics would be difficult.

One solution I see is having a restrictive set of rules for the advice section.
Something like:
- Must state the settings used for taking the picture (ISO, aperture, shutter speed, any body presets).
- Must describe the lighting (sources, intensity, locations, weather, etc.).
- Must list the gear (body, lenses, etc.)
- Must ask specific questions about either improving the existing picture in post or about retaking the shot.

Any topic that is placed in the advice section without the required info/questions gets moved into the pictures section.

Such set of rules would probably help with keeping the advice section focused on its intended purpose. But at the same time, I'm not sure what to do abut open-ended posts like "Here is a picture, how can I make it better?"

Any suggestions/opinions are welcome.
A few people contacted me about setting up a new s... (show quote)


All the requied fields you sugest are good ones,and can that be done, make them requied fields without those fields present it wont post.
And what about posting full size files so they maybe downloaded and viewed in full.
Critique is a great learning tool and a seperate section is a great idea.

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Oct 25, 2011 06:38:48   #
Cornishpete Loc: Illinois
 
I am not sure what a "body preset" is. What I think could be usefully added to the "must" list of rules would be to ask which photo manipulation program and version was used (if any), so that suggestions are relevant to that, rather than suggesting using some 'smart tool' that is only available on the very latest verion 10 or whatever.

Oh yeh! let's ban for ever the use of 'Awesome' just because there is some snow on a mountain in the background! :D

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Oct 25, 2011 06:42:59   #
JimH Loc: Western South Jersey, USA
 
Cornishpete wrote:
I am not sure what a "body preset" is.
It's a setting like "Sports" or "Closeup " or "Night Portrait" that's a selection on a wheel that a novice user would select - "sports" for things like baby portraits in the dining room, "Closeup" for mountains and seascapes, etc etc.. :)

Cornishpete wrote:
Oh yeh! let's ban for ever the use of 'Awesome' just because there is some snow on a mountain in the background! :D
:thumbup: many times.

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Oct 25, 2011 07:24:37   #
Bobbee
 
Sounds like the Republicans have taken over the list too. First GM, then Ugly................next Disney.

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Oct 25, 2011 08:17:06   #
naturepics43 Loc: Hocking Co. Ohio - USA
 
How about using the "KISS" method?

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Oct 25, 2011 08:21:36   #
Greg Loc: Maryland
 
naturepics43 wrote:
How about using the "KISS" method?


Is that where you post your picture and say 'If you don't like it you can "Kiss" my' ... oh wait, wrong forum ;)

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Oct 25, 2011 08:52:08   #
Country's Mama Loc: Michigan
 
Too many rules and you the admin. are going to be going crazy trying to make sure the pictures are posted in the right section. I agree with Nikonian72. Just have a section called. "Critique & Comments". If you accidentally post your picture there and get an unwanted critique you won't do it again.

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Oct 25, 2011 09:13:29   #
rhin0ski Loc: Boise, Idaho
 
I think the best improvement that could be made is a search bar so you could look up your question, because it is likely that it has already been asked and there is an abundance of good info here that relates to it.

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Oct 25, 2011 09:19:15   #
BurtLehman Loc: Santa Fe, NM
 
Country's Mama wrote:
Too many rules and you the admin. are going to be going crazy trying to make sure the pictures are posted in the right section. I agree with Nikonian72. Just have a section called. "Critique & Comments". If you accidentally post your picture there and get an unwanted critique you won't do it again.


A much needed section.

I recently posted a topic asking for specific information to be included with posts. With few exceptions, the replies missed the point.

At least this section should generate replies from those who can give specific advice and, for the most part, stay on subject.

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Oct 25, 2011 09:20:39   #
BurtLehman Loc: Santa Fe, NM
 
rhin0ski wrote:
I think the best improvement that could be made is a search bar so you could look up your question, because it is likely that it has already been asked and there is an abundance of good info here that relates to it.


Amen!

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Oct 25, 2011 09:28:13   #
JimH Loc: Western South Jersey, USA
 
Ummm...



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Oct 25, 2011 09:32:43   #
MWAC Loc: Somewhere East Of Crazy
 
Country's Mama wrote:
Too many rules and you the admin. are going to be going crazy trying to make sure the pictures are posted in the right section. I agree with Nikonian72. Just have a section called. "Critique & Comments". If you accidentally post your picture there and get an unwanted critique you won't do it again.


I totally agree, we are all adults here (well according to the rules we should be) and if someone accidentally posts in the C&C forum and gets unwanted feedback, I'm pretty sure next time they will be extra careful where they post. I think having a sub-forum just for CC would help greatly, I know I look at some pictures in and think about offering feedback and as I'm typing my reply I just happen to pick up on the fact that they didn't request any. I'm pretty sure someone is going to get some feedback they weren't requesting any day now with the current system. There are just way to many posts in one sub-forum.

rhin0ski wrote:
I think the best improvement that could be made is a search bar so you could look up your question, because it is likely that it has already been asked and there is an abundance of good info here that relates to it.


There already is one, right under the title "Ugly Hedgehog - Photography Forum" there are 5 tabs, 3rd one is is "SEARCH", it works, I've used it.

:)

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