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Oct 9, 2012 13:46:44 #
sinatraman wrote:
by the way burger jing is not owned by Pepsico ( they own taco bell, kfc, and pizza hut)last I knew burger king was owned by the English. Just like 7-11 is owned by the Japanese. Just another inconvienent truth. But don't woory Im sure its the altitude that caused your mistake, Im sure al gore will vouch for you!
You appear to have missed "docrob" admitting that he made those claims up (Page 1, post 4) to show how easy it is to mislead intentionally. And some bit without attempting to research how valid the information was. See? Do go back and look for it.
And good old, LOL, predictable "Blurryeyed" (post 5) then made an absurd claim that "all dems" make their facts up.
Al Gore? I like you. You silly.
Oct 9, 2012 13:51:25 #
Phreedom wrote:
quote=sinatraman by the way burger jing is not ow... (show quote)
ROFLMAO
Like I said, Dems lie especially Puddles....
"Princeton Economist: Obama Campaign Is Misrepresenting My Study on Romney's Tax Plan"
http://www.weeklystandard.com/blogs/princeton-economist-obama-campaign-misrepresenting-my-study-romneys-tax-plan_653917.html
Oct 9, 2012 15:53:14 #
VHD-Tex wrote:
O' my God Blurry, by comparing Ford to GM you have just stirred up another debate. You and I might be kicked out of the forum soon. He he.
Yeah, what's next, Canon vs. Nikon?......oh.....
Oct 9, 2012 17:48:34 #
VHD-Tex wrote:
Hey docrob--- Think about it....we are talking about private money VS. taxpayer money....don't you get it!
That's the whole point,.......he believes private money should be public money.
Oct 9, 2012 18:02:27 #
From what I've read, the folks that really got screwed were the GM stock holders and bond holders. It was the unions that really came out smelling like a rose and they were the primary reason for Obama's bailout. ........ Coot
The financial structure of the GM bailout should not have been a gift of 10's of billions of taxpayer dollars, the tax credit flow through which is against the federal bankruptcy law as well as the stock purchase was nothing less than a gift of taxpayer dollars to the tune of $45 billion, I am not arguing that GM should have gone under, but the taxpayers of this country got screwed as well as did the non union employees of GM... It is the structure of the deal that goes against most anybody's sense of fairness and above the board dealings.[/quote]
The financial structure of the GM bailout should not have been a gift of 10's of billions of taxpayer dollars, the tax credit flow through which is against the federal bankruptcy law as well as the stock purchase was nothing less than a gift of taxpayer dollars to the tune of $45 billion, I am not arguing that GM should have gone under, but the taxpayers of this country got screwed as well as did the non union employees of GM... It is the structure of the deal that goes against most anybody's sense of fairness and above the board dealings.[/quote]
Oct 9, 2012 18:19:10 #
Blurreyed wrote:
quote=Lazy Old Coot From what I've read, the folk... (show quote)
That part is very much true, the unions stood inline behind the secured creditors, again that is the law, but the president and his henchmen changed the rules... look at what he did to the non union employees, he did not protect them at all, he just brushed them aside and they lost everything.
Oct 9, 2012 18:58:27 #
Hunter Lou 1947
Loc: Minnesota
docrob wrote:
quote=VHD-Tex Romneys Bain capital invested priva... (show quote)
And the Obama administration took the Auto Industry out of solvency and look at them today. Romney wanted them to go bankrupt and loose millions of jobs and tax revenue. Manu other polieies the president put in place to move this country forward to where we are today. We still have a long way to go but we are moving in the right direction and we need to keep the engineer at the controls.
Oct 9, 2012 19:04:12 #
Hunter Lou 1947 wrote:
quote=docrob quote=VHD-Tex Romneys Bain capital ... (show quote)
Obama stole from the taxpayers in the bailout and the structure of the bailout, GM will never be asked to repay some $40 plus billion that Obama gave it.... He could have done something real while at the same time being fair to the taxpayer, instead he tarnished what maybe in the end his only lasting achievement.
Oct 9, 2012 19:10:00 #
Hunter Lou 1947
Loc: Minnesota
Blurryeyed wrote:
quote=Hunter Lou 1947 quote=docrob quote=VHD-Te... (show quote)
Your just dead wrong on the money not being paid back by the Auto Industry. Where's the proof of what your saying? Are you turning into another Lyin Romney and Lyin Ryan? Have you been drinking the water they have been drinking?
Oct 9, 2012 19:23:31 #
Hunter Lou 1947 wrote:
quote=Blurryeyed br br br Obama stole from the... (show quote)
Well, lets see, why did we purchase stock? Why was not all the money put in to GM a loan so that they would actually have to pay it back? It was done so that the company would not be burdened by the debt that it really owes the taxpayer. Then there is this Hunter Lou, they created special rules that are not available to any other corporation going through a bankruptcy... So if your neighbor down the street goes through a bankruptcy which restructures his business he does not get it, but GM did... a $45 billion carry forward of tax credits meaning that they will not have to pay taxes on profits that are due the American Taxpayer.... it is all a scam Hunter Lou... and you defend it.. I guess you don't pay federal taxes because if you did you should be a little pissed off...
http://www.dailyfinance.com/2010/11/03/gm-to-get-45-billion-tax-break-thanks-to-bailout/
It is you Hunter Lou who is lost in your little Red Book... Put Marx down and pay attention to what Obama is up to ... But, not to worry, he is losing ground fast and his snide approach to campaigning, telling the same lies.. over and over again, will not be enough to save his campaign....
Oct 9, 2012 20:53:14 #
Blurryeyed wrote:
quote=Hunter Lou 1947 quote=docrob quote=VHD-Te... (show quote)
Right once again, Blurryeyed. We should have put you up for election to the highest office. From the point of intelligence combined with common sense, you would win, hands down.
Oct 10, 2012 08:34:33 #
Hunter Lou 1947
Loc: Minnesota
Blurryeyed wrote:
quote=Hunter Lou 1947 quote=Blurryeyed br br ... (show quote)
I'm not one of the 2%. Who have opportunities to shove money offshore to avoid taxes here.
Oct 10, 2012 21:59:34 #
Hunter Lou, "shoving money offshore" doesn't avoid taxation unless you fail to report it. Since it seems to be common knowledge Romney did I would have to assume he reported it and paid what ever the tax laws required on the interest he received. If he had failed to report it you wouldn't even have known about it, would you?
You have every right to denigrate the wealthy if you want to, but I doubt you will be able to gain much traction unless you can produce some convincing facts to back up your rant. ......... Coot
I'm not one of the 2%. Who have opportunities to shove money offshore to avoid taxes here.[/quote]
You have every right to denigrate the wealthy if you want to, but I doubt you will be able to gain much traction unless you can produce some convincing facts to back up your rant. ......... Coot
I'm not one of the 2%. Who have opportunities to shove money offshore to avoid taxes here.[/quote]
Oct 10, 2012 23:01:44 #
HUNTER LOU ...................
If you have some actual knowledge about wrondoings on Romney's taxes, you have a duty to report it to the IRS. Also they will pay you 15% of anything they recover.
If you are just making it up, forget it.
If you have some actual knowledge about wrondoings on Romney's taxes, you have a duty to report it to the IRS. Also they will pay you 15% of anything they recover.
If you are just making it up, forget it.
Oct 10, 2012 23:11:47 #
Hunter Lou 1947 wrote:
quote=docrob quote=VHD-Tex Romneys Bain capital ... (show quote)
That's all well and good, Hunter Lou, but the engineer at these controls is an absolute fool, and can't see the bridge is out ahead. He is going to run our train right into the river of debt. . . .
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