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Apr 16, 2013 01:29:58   #
CaptainC Loc: Colorado, south of Denver
 
I am sure that as God sees what humans have done to religion, he must be really pissed. Take Pat Roberston....PLEASE! We got rid of Oral Roberts and Jerry Falwell....What's one more? :-)

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Apr 16, 2013 01:47:59   #
silver Loc: Santa Monica Ca.
 
Hal81 wrote:
I for one am a Bible beliveing christan. You eather belive in the Bible or not. I chose to belive. You must have faith to belive in God and the bible. I will fight for your right to belive in what ever you want. If you belive when you take your dirt nap its all over so be it. I belive theres life after death. If you dont thats your chose. But I like my belifes better.I have somthing to look forward to. Your outlook must be very gloomey.You dont need science to prove anything when you have faith. The Bible says the fool hath said in his heart there is no God..If you dont belive in the Bible that wont bother you.
I for one am a Bible beliveing christan. You eathe... (show quote)


I have a really hard time understanding something in the Bible. As I understand it the sun and the moon were created on the 3rd or 4th day. If this is the case, how could there be a first and second day or third day for that matter when there was no sun and moon? As I understand the natural world there has to be a sun and a moon in order for there to be a day. Logically you have to have a sunrise. So how was there a first and second and third day with no sun? Doesnt make sense does it? In the beginning the Bible makes no sense what so ever and goes on from there.

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Apr 16, 2013 03:51:05   #
rpavich Loc: West Virginia
 
CaptainC wrote:
I am sure that as God sees what humans have done to religion, he must be really pissed. Take Pat Roberston....PLEASE! We got rid of Oral Roberts and Jerry Falwell....What's one more? :-)


Hey! We agree on something! :)

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Apr 16, 2013 09:57:23   #
jthomas Loc: Lancaster, PA
 
silver wrote:
I have a really hard time understanding something in the Bible. As I understand it the sun and the moon were created on the 3rd or 4th day. If this is the case, how could there be a first and second day or third day for that matter when there was no sun and moon? As I understand the natural world there has to be a sun and a moon in order for there to be a day. Logically you have to have a sunrise. So how was there a first and second and third day with no sun? Doesnt make sense does it? In the beginning the Bible makes no sense what so ever and goes on from there.
I have a really hard time understanding something ... (show quote)


Why couldn't there have been some other form of light in the three "days" before the sun & moon?

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Apr 16, 2013 09:59:32   #
tschmath Loc: Los Angeles
 
jthomas wrote:
Why couldn't there have been some other form of light in the three "days" before the sun & moon?


But there's no mention of that alternative light being created. Since Genesis is about the creation of the world, when was this other source created?

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Apr 16, 2013 10:08:04   #
jthomas Loc: Lancaster, PA
 
tschmath wrote:
But there's no mention of that alternative light being created. Since Genesis is about the creation of the world, when was this other source created?


God Himself is Light - He doesn't talk about His creation in Genesis because He's the Creator.

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Apr 16, 2013 10:25:39   #
rpavich Loc: West Virginia
 
silver wrote:
I have a really hard time understanding something in the Bible. As I understand it the sun and the moon were created on the 3rd or 4th day. If this is the case, how could there be a first and second day or third day for that matter when there was no sun and moon?


Can I step in on this one?

A day is just a function of the rotation of the earth, and yes, there most certainly was light but not necessarily the light from the sun.

You are assuming that if light existed, then it must have been from the sun but the text says otherwise.

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Apr 16, 2013 10:27:07   #
rpavich Loc: West Virginia
 
tschmath wrote:
But there's no mention of that alternative light being created. Since Genesis is about the creation of the world, when was this other source created?


My question to you would be...why do you assume that God must reveal (to man) every detail of everything He's ever done?

Does He not have the freedom to reveal what He's chosen to reveal to us?

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Apr 16, 2013 10:46:14   #
silver Loc: Santa Monica Ca.
 
jthomas wrote:
Why couldn't there have been some other form of light in the three "days" before the sun & moon?


In order for there to be a day there must be a sun. A day is from sunrise to sunset. No sun, no day. The Bible makes no sense from the first page.

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Apr 16, 2013 10:52:12   #
rpavich Loc: West Virginia
 
silver wrote:
In order for there to be a day there must be a sun. A day is from sunrise to sunset. No sun, no day. The Bible makes no sense from the first page.


Well..again...that's your assumption but a day is a "360 deg rotation of the earth which takes about 24 hours" not a 'sunrise to sunset"..that's not the definition

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Apr 16, 2013 11:00:13   #
silver Loc: Santa Monica Ca.
 
rpavich wrote:
Well..again...that's your assumption but a day is a "360 deg rotation of the earth which takes about 24 hours" not a 'sunrise to sunset"..that's not the definition


Day- the period of light between sunrise and sunset. Websters dictionary. No sun, no day.

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Apr 16, 2013 11:01:20   #
emrob62 Loc: NEPA
 
silver wrote:
In order for there to be a day there must be a sun. A day is from sunrise to sunset. No sun, no day. The Bible makes no sense from the first page.


That is in your "scientific" explanation of a day. The other factor here is that according to scriptures and scholars, a "day" is not a 24 hour period like we refer to it. It could have been years between these stages. It is just a reference to show the order in which it was all put together.

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Apr 16, 2013 11:18:28   #
rpavich Loc: West Virginia
 
silver wrote:
Day- the period of light between sunrise and sunset. Websters dictionary. No sun, no day.


Day: a rotation of the earth on it's axis taking 24 hours to complete

Miriam Webster dictionary.

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Apr 16, 2013 11:19:52   #
rpavich Loc: West Virginia
 
emrob62 wrote:
That is in your "scientific" explanation of a day. The other factor here is that according to scriptures and scholars, a "day" is not a 24 hour period like we refer to it. It could have been years between these stages. It is just a reference to show the order in which it was all put together.


I'm sorry, but I'm going to disagree with this statement; the context, the grammar all point to a literal, 24 hour day.

No need to capitulate to the secular community because they don't like the answer.

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Apr 16, 2013 11:58:45   #
silver Loc: Santa Monica Ca.
 
emrob62 wrote:
That is in your "scientific" explanation of a day. The other factor here is that according to scriptures and scholars, a "day" is not a 24 hour period like we refer to it. It could have been years between these stages. It is just a reference to show the order in which it was all put together.


sorry, it says a day. Day is 24 hours. No sun, no day. It just dosent make sense.

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