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May 25, 2018 15:38:09   #
Old Timer Loc: Greenfield, In.
 
I use Canon's DPP for most of my editing and was wondering if any one on here has tried the dpp 4 version and what is your assessment of it and will it work retro with cameras such as the 7d or 5dii. I know they said they have change the logarithm with RAW conversion.

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May 25, 2018 16:04:29   #
DWU2 Loc: Phoenix Arizona area
 
Algorithm?

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May 25, 2018 16:28:44   #
Peterff Loc: O'er The Hills and Far Away, in Themyscira.
 
Old Timer wrote:
I use Canon's DPP for most of my editing and was wondering if any one on here has tried the dpp 4 version and what is your assessment of it and will it work retro with cameras such as the 7d or 5dii. I know they said they have change the logarithm with RAW conversion.


DPP4 is better than DPP3, although it will exercise your computer a little more. How old is your computer and how much memory does it have?

DPP4 now works with most Canon DSLRs. We use a Rebel T2i, T3i, and an 80D.

It supports both the 7D and 7D mk II, as well as 5D mk II.

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May 25, 2018 17:34:43   #
SharpShooter Loc: NorCal
 
Old Timer wrote:
I use Canon's DPP for most of my editing and was wondering if any one on here has tried the dpp 4 version and what is your assessment of it and will it work retro with cameras such as the 7d or 5dii. I know they said they have change the logarithm with RAW conversion.


Old, DPP 4 is better. Can’t remember what’s different than 3.
When you install it, it will extract any versions it replaces but will leave in place any version that works with a camera version that DPP 4 will not work with.
For example DPP4 works with all my current cameras but when I want to open a file created by my Canon 20D, I have to open those files with an older version of DPP that was not extracted by the DPP 4.
The old version staying on the computer makes it backwards compatible with older cameras.
My guess is that those older versions needed for the older cameras are still downloadable and won’t affect the existence of newer versions of DPP. You will just have two separate versions on your computer!!!
So download the newest version with confidence that the old version will remain if needed! Good luck!
SS

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May 25, 2018 17:37:52   #
mwsilvers Loc: Central New Jersey
 
Old Timer wrote:
I use Canon's DPP for most of my editing and was wondering if any one on here has tried the dpp 4 version and what is your assessment of it and will it work retro with cameras such as the 7d or 5dii. I know they said they have change the logarithm with RAW conversion.

The very latest version now includes local adjustments, a first for DPP, and has supported the two cameras you mentioned for the last few years.

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May 25, 2018 17:38:14   #
Peterff Loc: O'er The Hills and Far Away, in Themyscira.
 
SharpShooter wrote:
Old, DPP 4 is better. Can’t remember what’s different than 3.
When you install it, it will extract any versions it replaces but will leave in place any version that works with a camera version that DPP 4 will not work with.
For example DPP4 works with all my current cameras but when I want to open a file created by my Canon 20D, I have to open those files with an older version of DPP that was not extracted by the DPP 4.
The old version staying on the computer makes it backwards compatible with older cameras.
My guess is that those older versions needed for the older cameras are still downloadable and won’t affect the existence of newer versions of DPP. You will just have two separate versions on your computer!!!
So download the newest version with confidence that the old version will remain if needed! Good luck!
SS
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May 26, 2018 07:18:14   #
Old Timer Loc: Greenfield, In.
 
Thanks every one for the replies and advice. I am looking forward to updating as it has many features the older versions does not. As for the raw editor I have better results with it than any other and like how it works but has a features that I would use and have to go to other editors to get. It seems they have overcome that problem and DPP more of complete program. Again the help and knowledge here is appreciated.

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May 26, 2018 07:49:03   #
Bison Bud
 
mwsilvers wrote:
The very latest version now includes local adjustments, a first for DPP, and has supported the two cameras you mentioned for the last few years.


What do you mean by "Local Adjustments?"

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May 26, 2018 09:15:55   #
47greyfox Loc: on the edge of the Colorado front range
 
There have been a few issues with DPP 4.8.x. This is worth a read. Many (?) users had crash and speed problems with 4.8.20, which I was one. Pretty much pleased with 4.8.30, the latest version. DPP 3.x.x is still available. All is takes is a call to Canon support and they will send you a link.

http://community.usa.canon.com/t5/Software/DPP-4-8-x-Feedback-Thread/td-p/237350

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May 26, 2018 09:51:17   #
mwsilvers Loc: Central New Jersey
 
Bison Bud wrote:
What do you mean by "Local Adjustments?"


I'm guessing you may not be that familiar with post processing software in general. Local adjustments provide the tools to allow you to modify selected areas of an image rather than the whole image. Most of the feature rich software packages allow you to perform varying degrees of local adjustments. With local adjustments you create a mask on part of your image and make various adjustments such as contrast, or brightness or sharpness to just that area. Some software allows for very complex local adjustments with various types of masks, others like DPP only allow for a few basic corrections.

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May 26, 2018 10:10:08   #
Bison Bud
 
Yeah, it seems simple enough now that you've explained it, but I'm still using an older version of Canon's DPP to still be compatible with our old G9 point and shoot's Raw Files (my wife loves this camera). This older version has no "Local" anything, but I asked the question because I'm now also using "RawTheropee" and it has a "Local Contrast" slider and I really didn't know just what it was supposed to do. Just like anything else, especially if it's technical, everything seems to have it's own lingo, acronyms, abbreviations, etc. and frankly, I think this steepens the learning curve on just about anything your trying to learn. Anyway, thanks for clearing this up for me here, I actually learned something once again! Good luck and good shooting to all.

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May 26, 2018 12:02:44   #
mwsilvers Loc: Central New Jersey
 
Bison Bud wrote:
Yeah, it seems simple enough now that you've explained it, but I'm still using an older version of Canon's DPP to still be compatible with our old G9 point and shoot's Raw Files (my wife loves this camera). This older version has no "Local" anything, but I asked the question because I'm now also using "RawTheropee" and it has a "Local Contrast" slider and I really didn't know just what it was supposed to do. Just like anything else, especially if it's technical, everything seems to have it's own lingo, acronyms, abbreviations, etc. and frankly, I think this steepens the learning curve on just about anything your trying to learn. Anyway, thanks for clearing this up for me here, I actually learned something once again! Good luck and good shooting to all.
Yeah, it seems simple enough now that you've expla... (show quote)

Software can be very complex. Different features have to have different names and terminology to describe them. There's no way to get around that. However, most of the terminology tends to be fairly consistent from package to package, although some software packages insist on using their own labels to define some features that is inconsistent with general usage. For instance, I believe that its either ON1 or Aftershot that uses a lighting slider that encompasses what a shadow slider does in most other software.

Once you develop familiarity with one or more post processing programs, working in other software is usually much easier since the implementation of most of the basic features is similar, although the range of adjustments and quality of the results may be very different.

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May 26, 2018 12:03:21   #
jeep_daddy Loc: Prescott AZ
 
Old Timer wrote:
I use Canon's DPP for most of my editing and was wondering if any one on here has tried the dpp 4 version and what is your assessment of it and will it work retro with cameras such as the 7d or 5dii. I know they said they have change the logarithm with RAW conversion.


Yes, it works with all the Canon DSLR's. It's always being improved so in my opinion if you use DPP, keep it up to date and you can enjoy it more and more as they continue to make these improvements.

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May 26, 2018 13:46:33   #
TriX Loc: Raleigh, NC
 
47greyfox wrote:
There have been a few issues with DPP 4.8.x. This is worth a read. Many (?) users had crash and speed problems with 4.8.20, which I was one. Pretty much pleased with 4.8.30, the latest version. DPP 3.x.x is still available. All is takes is a call to Canon support and they will send you a link.

http://community.usa.canon.com/t5/Software/DPP-4-8-x-Feedback-Thread/td-p/237350


Thanks for that. Recently, DPP 4.8 is either crashing after every import or taking forever to process, so I’ll download the update and hope that addresses the issue. I’ve been meaning to address it, just been too lazy...

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May 26, 2018 13:49:36   #
Peterff Loc: O'er The Hills and Far Away, in Themyscira.
 
TriX wrote:
Thanks for that. Recently, DPP 4.8 is either crashing after every import or taking forever to process, so I’ll download the update and hope that addresses the issue. I’ve been meaning to address it, just been too lazy...


I had similar problems and 'downgraded' to an earlier version of DPP 4, which seemed to improve things. I'm now using DPP 4.8.30 and things are much better. I'm glad that I archive install kits so that I have option of going backwards!

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