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Why did Canon quit putting viewfinder shutters on their cameras?
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May 25, 2018 13:41:38   #
madclownrme Loc: Southwest Louisiana
 
I just don't understand why viewfinder shutters aren't available on all dslr cameras.
My old Canon A1 had one and it seemed to work fine. Now I have to keep track of a rubber cap to do what used to be done with the flick of a lever.
Does anyone have any ideas why a camera company would stop adding this feature to their cameras?

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May 25, 2018 14:15:12   #
drklrd Loc: Cincinnati Ohio
 
madclownrme wrote:
I just don't understand why viewfinder shutters aren't available on all dslr cameras.
My old Canon A1 had one and it seemed to work fine. Now I have to keep track of a rubber cap to do what used to be done with the flick of a lever.
Does anyone have any ideas why a camera company would stop adding this feature to their cameras?


I never used one. Even though I am told that you need to use the little device Nikon gives you with the camera which is much cheaper than one built into the camera I find no problems with exposures if the camera is on a tripod and my head is not looking through the viewfinder. I keep wondering when I will need that little piece of plastic they gave me.

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May 25, 2018 14:24:42   #
Longshadow Loc: Audubon, PA, United States
 
Manufacturing cost savings......

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May 25, 2018 14:33:44   #
boberic Loc: Quiet Corner, Connecticut. Ex long Islander
 
Why would you need a view finder shutter? Don't even know what a view finder shutter is

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May 25, 2018 14:36:41   #
Bill_de Loc: US
 
Nikon leaves it off less expensive cameras. It can be very useful when shooting without your eye to the viewfinder.

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May 25, 2018 14:37:31   #
Longshadow Loc: Audubon, PA, United States
 
boberic wrote:
Why would you need a view finder shutter? Don't even know what a view finder shutter is


It covers the viewfinder so that no light gets in when you are doing any exposures with your eye not up to the viewfinder,like when using a remote.

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May 25, 2018 14:47:02   #
Kuzano
 
Longshadow wrote:
It covers the viewfinder so that no light gets in when you are doing any exposures with your eye not up to the viewfinder,like when using a remote.


Bingo.. and it is a large problem for people who shoot the way photography should be done. On a tripod with errant light entering the camera from an unshielded viewfinder. Fortunately, because of the latitude of film and now some digital sensors it's not considered a serious problem even though it always affects exposure (only on optical viewfinders)

Professionals always shielded the opening from stray light. Amateurs never even knew the problem existed. But then Amateurs often shot their range finder cameras with the lens cap on.

If you were a amateur using a rangefinder, your keeper rate was

0% of the images where you left the lens cap on
5% of those images where you remembered to take off the lens cap
another 3% of the images in focus.

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May 25, 2018 15:08:06   #
DanInPhx
 
I assume Canon discontinued the lever method because the rubber cap is cheaper. However I’ve never had a problem hanging on to the cap because it threads thru the camera strap. I have a Rebel T6 but even my Maxxum 5000 did it the same way.


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May 25, 2018 15:10:59   #
boberic Loc: Quiet Corner, Connecticut. Ex long Islander
 
Longshadow wrote:
It covers the viewfinder so that no light gets in when you are doing any exposures with your eye not up to the viewfinder,like when using a remote.


Oh OK a view finder COVER. I understand now. I am frequently confused. Couldn't figure out why a view finder would need a shutter, as in shutter speed

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May 25, 2018 15:17:03   #
Longshadow Loc: Audubon, PA, United States
 
boberic wrote:
Oh OK a view finder COVER. I understand now. I am frequently confused. Couldn't figure out why a view finder would need a shutter, as in shutter speed


It may have been internal to the camera, kinda like a "window" shutter, as opposed to the camera shutter.

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May 25, 2018 15:18:38   #
Longshadow Loc: Audubon, PA, United States
 
DanInPhx wrote:
I assume Canon discontinued the lever method because the rubber cap is cheaper. However I’ve never had a problem hanging on to the cap because it threads thru the camera strap. I have a Rebel T6 but even my Maxxum 5000 did it the same way.


I use a wide strap, which the cover will not fit. Concerned about loosing it. Thinking of some kind of strap tether for it.

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May 25, 2018 16:35:15   #
rgrenaderphoto Loc: Hollywood, CA
 
Longshadow wrote:
Manufacturing cost savings......


Cost savings is a key, and they figure the rubber cap is good enough. Which shows how far Canon has gone with the Pro camera market. If you are doing any type of long exposure, like > 1 minute, on tripod, leaving the viewfinder uncovered will allow light to "leak" and ruin the shot with a nasty red streak. My 8xx series Nikons have a shutter, but I carry a small roll of gaff tape for those on trips who don't.

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May 25, 2018 16:44:04   #
Peterff Loc: O'er The Hills and Far Away, in Themyscira.
 
madclownrme wrote:
I just don't understand why viewfinder shutters aren't available on all dslr cameras.
My old Canon A1 had one and it seemed to work fine. Now I have to keep track of a rubber cap to do what used to be done with the flick of a lever.
Does anyone have any ideas why a camera company would stop adding this feature to their cameras?


It's simply a cost thing. The AE-1 had a little plastic device that fitted in the hot shoe. I still have both. The T90, a high end camera of its time had a shutter blind built in, but the camera cost a bunch more. Mine still works.

Canon ships little rubber shutter blinds with many of its cameras today. Perhaps somebody else knows which current Canon models, if any, have built in shutter blinds. Mine lives in my camera bag, so I don't travel without it.

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May 25, 2018 16:59:14   #
BebuLamar
 
Of course it's the matter of cost. Only the more expensive cameras have the built in viewfinder blind. The purpose isn't so much to prevent light from spoiling your pictures because the mirror with the foam around the focusing screen would seal the light out well when it goes up. The main purpose is that when you don't use the viewfinder but you have the camera in auto (A, S, P or auto ISO) then light entering the viewfinder can inflate the meter reading and causes underexposure.

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May 25, 2018 17:15:51   #
SharpShooter Loc: NorCal
 
Kuzano wrote:
Bingo.. and it is a large problem for people who shoot the way photography should be done. On a tripod with errant light entering the camera from an unshielded viewfinder. Fortunately, because of the latitude of film and now some digital sensors it's not considered a serious problem even though it always affects exposure (only on optical viewfinders)

Professionals always shielded the opening from stray light. Amateurs never even knew the problem existed. But then Amateurs often shot their range finder cameras with the lens cap on.

If you were a amateur using a rangefinder, your keeper rate was

0% of the images where you left the lens cap on
5% of those images where you remembered to take off the lens cap
another 3% of the images in focus.
Bingo.. and it is a large problem for people who s... (show quote)


Several well known testers have tested the light leak problem and all report that no trace of light leak can be detected. Maybe it was a problem of yore that no longer exist or it never existed at all.
Yes, I’m VERY familiar with the concept but have never read anything authoritative on that it really is a problem.
Can anyone link something reliable???
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