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Apr 22, 2018 21:56:50   #
whwiden
 
I would be interested for opinions of performance of the newest FF Nikon 70-300mm afp lens on the crop sensor Nikon D7200, after upgrading to the newest firmware. I am not interested in the crop dx versions of this lens for several reasons. I prefer the faster F/5.6 at 300mm, the metal mount, the ability to turn off VR, and ability on a FF camera. Has anyone in a pinch used it with a Kenko 1.4 teleconverter? I am most interested in performance at 300mm on the crop body.

As background, I am struggling to put together a very small kit for two weeks in Namibia. The cameras will be a D750 and a D7200. My Tamron 150-600mm G2 is proving too large, I fear (though I like this lens very much). Other lenses available: 24mm 1.8, 85mm 1.8, 28-300mm, 18-140mm, 24-85mm. I will not take all five of these other lenses, only some subset. Others on the trip will have super zooms like a Nikon B700, and 1 inch sensor compacts.

My space will be limited to about a Domke f2 bag.

I have looked at Sony RX 10 IV etc, and they are not for me. For that money, I might look at a 300mm f/4 prime on the crop, 28-300 on the FF. But the zoom, if solid, seems more practical, and less expense.

Observations on Namibia welcome.

For this potential purchase, I am only considering Nikon. If pushed, I have a 300mm f/4.5 from film days--no vr, manual, but looks pretty good--no purchase required. I could easily pack my film kit--sigh . . .

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Apr 23, 2018 07:27:43   #
jeffhacker Loc: Dallas, Texas
 
I used a Nikon 18-300 f/4.5-5.6 with my D7200, and now, I've upgraded to the D500. Having just come back from Zurich and Munich, I was schlepping around a tripod, the camera, a f/1.4 50mm prime lens, and a Nikon flash unit, I think it was way too much weight. I'd seriously look at taking the least amount of equipment you may need. Especially if you're out looking at animals, etc. you may need to be switching lenses out in the woods or on a moving vehicle. Maybe the 24-85 and the 70-300, but nothing more. Just my 2 cents' worth.

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Apr 23, 2018 07:45:53   #
whwiden
 
jeffhacker wrote:
I used a Nikon 18-300 f/4.5-5.6 with my D7200, and now, I've upgraded to the D500. Having just come back from Zurich and Munich, I was schlepping around a tripod, the camera, a f/1.4 50mm prime lens, and a Nikon flash unit, I think it was way too much weight. I'd seriously look at taking the least amount of equipment you may need. Especially if you're out looking at animals, etc. you may need to be switching lenses out in the woods or on a moving vehicle. Maybe the 24-85 and the 70-300, but nothing more. Just my 2 cents' worth.
I used a Nikon 18-300 f/4.5-5.6 with my D7200, and... (show quote)


Thank you. Light is better, and in this case pretty much required.

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Apr 23, 2018 08:50:40   #
TJBNovember Loc: Long Island, New York
 
whwiden wrote:
I would be interested for opinions of performance of the newest FF Nikon 70-300mm afp lens on the crop sensor Nikon D7200, after upgrading to the newest firmware. I am not interested in the crop dx versions of this lens for several reasons. I prefer the faster F/5.6 at 300mm, the metal mount, the ability to turn off VR, and ability on a FF camera. Has anyone in a pinch used it with a Kenko 1.4 teleconverter? I am most interested in performance at 300mm on the crop body.

As background, I am struggling to put together a very small kit for two weeks in Namibia. The cameras will be a D750 and a D7200. My Tamron 150-600mm G2 is proving too large, I fear (though I like this lens very much). Other lenses available: 24mm 1.8, 85mm 1.8, 28-300mm, 18-140mm, 24-85mm. I will not take all five of these other lenses, only some subset. Others on the trip will have super zooms like a Nikon B700, and 1 inch sensor compacts.

My space will be limited to about a Domke f2 bag.

I have looked at Sony RX 10 IV etc, and they are not for me. For that money, I might look at a 300mm f/4 prime on the crop, 28-300 on the FF. But the zoom, if solid, seems more practical, and less expense.

Observations on Namibia welcome.

For this potential purchase, I am only considering Nikon. If pushed, I have a 300mm f/4.5 from film days--no vr, manual, but looks pretty good--no purchase required. I could easily pack my film kit--sigh . . .
I would be interested for opinions of performance ... (show quote)


Even with a firmware update you'll experience some limitations in performance on the D7200, with the 70-300. Suggest you check out the Nikon website for more info. Here's link to the lens on the Nikon site.

https://www.nikonusa.com/en/nikon-products/product/camera-lenses/af-p-nikkor-70-300mm-f%252f4.5-5.6e-ed-vr.html

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Apr 23, 2018 09:05:26   #
IR Jim Loc: St. Louis
 
I've read on DPReview, KenRockwell, and DSLRBodies that there is a focusing issue with this lens on the D7200 body.
Below is a copy/paste directly from NikonUSA.

The number of cameras compatible with this lens is limited. Even for compatible cameras, a firmware update may be required. Fully compatible models: D7500, D5600, D3400, D500.



Fully compatible models (without limitations) after available firmware update: D5, D750, D610, D600, D5500, D5300, D3300. Download firmware updates at: http://downloadcenter.nikonimglib.com/en/index.html

Regardless of firmware update, these models will still have some limitations*: D4, D4S, D3, D3X, D3S, D810, D810A, D800, D800E, Df, D700, D300, D300S, D7200, D7100, D7000, D5200.



*Because these models reset focus when reverting from standby status (timer off), pre-focus shooting is not available.



Incompatible models: D2 series, D1 series, D200, D100, D90, D80, D70 series, D60, D50, D40 series, D5100, D5000, D3200, D3100, D3000, film SLR cameras.

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Apr 23, 2018 09:22:05   #
JTann Loc: North East, MD
 
Several yrs ago on a fishing trip to Alaska the kit I took was a D700 and an 18-200 3.5-5.6 VR2 lens. It covered just about everything I wanted to shoot, and I shot A LOT. I never had to take the lens off and it fit in a small Lopro fanny pack case. If I were to repeat the trip this summer I might opt for a 28-300 instead but still on an FX body.

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Apr 23, 2018 09:24:06   #
whwiden
 
TJBNovember wrote:
Even with a firmware update you'll experience some limitations in performance on the D7200, with the 70-300. Suggest you check out the Nikon website for more info. Here's link to the lens on the Nikon site.

https://www.nikonusa.com/en/nikon-products/product/camera-lenses/af-p-nikkor-70-300mm-f%252f4.5-5.6e-ed-vr.html


Thank you. Yes, this is very confusing. Shame on Nikon. A recent Q&A on the site suggests full compatibility now...but. hmmmm

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Apr 23, 2018 09:25:24   #
whwiden
 
IR Jim wrote:
I've read on DPReview, KenRockwell, and DSLRBodies that there is a focusing issue with this lens on the D7200 body.
Below is a copy/paste directly from NikonUSA.

The number of cameras compatible with this lens is limited. Even for compatible cameras, a firmware update may be required. Fully compatible models: D7500, D5600, D3400, D500.



Fully compatible models (without limitations) after available firmware update: D5, D750, D610, D600, D5500, D5300, D3300. Download firmware updates at: http://downloadcenter.nikonimglib.com/en/index.html

Regardless of firmware update, these models will still have some limitations*: D4, D4S, D3, D3X, D3S, D810, D810A, D800, D800E, Df, D700, D300, D300S, D7200, D7100, D7000, D5200.



*Because these models reset focus when reverting from standby status (timer off), pre-focus shooting is not available.



Incompatible models: D2 series, D1 series, D200, D100, D90, D80, D70 series, D60, D50, D40 series, D5100, D5000, D3200, D3100, D3000, film SLR cameras.
I've read on DPReview, KenRockwell, and DSLRBodies... (show quote)


Thank you. Nikon has created much confusion.

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Apr 23, 2018 09:29:08   #
whwiden
 
JTann wrote:
Several yrs ago on a fishing trip to Alaska the kit I took was a D700 and an 18-200 3.5-5.6 VR2 lens. It covered just about everything I wanted to shoot, and I shot A LOT. I never had to take the lens off and it fit in a small Lopro fanny pack case. If I were to repeat the trip this summer I might opt for a 28-300 instead but still on an FX body.


Yes. Thank you. A single lens solution has its advantages to be sure. I often pack too much but I can not do so now.

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Apr 23, 2018 10:39:41   #
kb6kgx Loc: Simi Valley, CA
 
You already have the 28-300. Why would you need anything else?

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Apr 23, 2018 10:52:06   #
Rich1939 Loc: Pike County Penna.
 
whwiden wrote:
I would be interested for opinions of performance of the newest FF Nikon 70-300mm afp lens on the crop sensor Nikon D7200, after upgrading to the newest firmware. I am not interested in the crop dx versions of this lens for several reasons. I prefer the faster F/5.6 at 300mm, the metal mount, the ability to turn off VR, and ability on a FF camera. Has anyone in a pinch used it with a Kenko 1.4 teleconverter? I am most interested in performance at 300mm on the crop body.

As background, I am struggling to put together a very small kit for two weeks in Namibia. The cameras will be a D750 and a D7200. My Tamron 150-600mm G2 is proving too large, I fear (though I like this lens very much). Other lenses available: 24mm 1.8, 85mm 1.8, 28-300mm, 18-140mm, 24-85mm. I will not take all five of these other lenses, only some subset. Others on the trip will have super zooms like a Nikon B700, and 1 inch sensor compacts.

My space will be limited to about a Domke f2 bag.

I have looked at Sony RX 10 IV etc, and they are not for me. For that money, I might look at a 300mm f/4 prime on the crop, 28-300 on the FF. But the zoom, if solid, seems more practical, and less expense.

Observations on Namibia welcome.

For this potential purchase, I am only considering Nikon. If pushed, I have a 300mm f/4.5 from film days--no vr, manual, but looks pretty good--no purchase required. I could easily pack my film kit--sigh . . .
I would be interested for opinions of performance ... (show quote)


I suggest you read this current review:
https://photographylife.com/reviews/nikon-70-300mm-vr-af-p.
This new lens ,using a new technology is very appealing and according to the article the compatibility issue has been resolved with the latest firmware update.
That new tech is what helps this lens perform and it is also why older cameras need a firmware up date. There is no free lunch

PS: The firmware up date referenced was on2/27. Your D7200 was covered
I'm keenly aware of this lens as it came out just after I bought the previous model.

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Apr 23, 2018 10:53:48   #
whwiden
 
kb6kgx wrote:
You already have the 28-300. Why would you need anything else?


Increased sharpness and faster focus for wildlife. The 28-300 does not look as good to me when shot on a crop sensor as it does on FF.

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Apr 23, 2018 11:43:11   #
liznitz
 
Where are you headed in Namibia? We are there for 2 weeks starting may 21. I am bringing my d7200 also with three lenses and a canon point and shoot.

Liz

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Apr 23, 2018 14:10:31   #
mas24 Loc: Southern CA
 
whwiden wrote:
I would be interested for opinions of performance of the newest FF Nikon 70-300mm afp lens on the crop sensor Nikon D7200, after upgrading to the newest firmware. I am not interested in the crop dx versions of this lens for several reasons. I prefer the faster F/5.6 at 300mm, the metal mount, the ability to turn off VR, and ability on a FF camera. Has anyone in a pinch used it with a Kenko 1.4 teleconverter? I am most interested in performance at 300mm on the crop body.

As background, I am struggling to put together a very small kit for two weeks in Namibia. The cameras will be a D750 and a D7200. My Tamron 150-600mm G2 is proving too large, I fear (though I like this lens very much). Other lenses available: 24mm 1.8, 85mm 1.8, 28-300mm, 18-140mm, 24-85mm. I will not take all five of these other lenses, only some subset. Others on the trip will have super zooms like a Nikon B700, and 1 inch sensor compacts.

My space will be limited to about a Domke f2 bag.

I have looked at Sony RX 10 IV etc, and they are not for me. For that money, I might look at a 300mm f/4 prime on the crop, 28-300 on the FF. But the zoom, if solid, seems more practical, and less expense.

Observations on Namibia welcome.

For this potential purchase, I am only considering Nikon. If pushed, I have a 300mm f/4.5 from film days--no vr, manual, but looks pretty good--no purchase required. I could easily pack my film kit--sigh . . .
I would be interested for opinions of performance ... (show quote)


Nikon has the DX AF-P 70-300mm and the FX version of the 70-300mm lenses. I own the AF-P DX version and like it. That lens has high praise among DX owners. DX cameras produced before AF-P lenses, required a firmware. Although, I like my 70-300mm, I'm wishing to own a Tamron 18-400mm lens, crop sensor formatted, which is a top seller now. And affordable, $649. A great lens it would be for your trip to Namibia. The FX 28-300mm works great on my friend's DX D7100. Good luck.

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Apr 23, 2018 17:59:55   #
UKBillyBoy Loc: Central Texas
 
whwiden wrote:
I would be interested for opinions of performance of the newest FF Nikon 70-300mm afp lens on the crop sensor Nikon D7200, after upgrading to the newest firmware. I am not interested in the crop dx versions of this lens for several reasons. I prefer the faster F/5.6 at 300mm, the metal mount, the ability to turn off VR, and ability on a FF camera. Has anyone in a pinch used it with a Kenko 1.4 teleconverter? I am most interested in performance at 300mm on the crop body.

As background, I am struggling to put together a very small kit for two weeks in Namibia. The cameras will be a D750 and a D7200. My Tamron 150-600mm G2 is proving too large, I fear (though I like this lens very much). Other lenses available: 24mm 1.8, 85mm 1.8, 28-300mm, 18-140mm, 24-85mm. I will not take all five of these other lenses, only some subset. Others on the trip will have super zooms like a Nikon B700, and 1 inch sensor compacts.

My space will be limited to about a Domke f2 bag.

I have looked at Sony RX 10 IV etc, and they are not for me. For that money, I might look at a 300mm f/4 prime on the crop, 28-300 on the FF. But the zoom, if solid, seems more practical, and less expense.

Observations on Namibia welcome.

For this potential purchase, I am only considering Nikon. If pushed, I have a 300mm f/4.5 from film days--no vr, manual, but looks pretty good--no purchase required. I could easily pack my film kit--sigh . . .
I would be interested for opinions of performance ... (show quote)


I have the D750, the AF-P 70-300 mm lens, and the Kenko 1.4x Teleconverter. I installed the firmware upgrade and have no problems with AF or anything else. I think it is a wonderful lens. The Kenko 1.4x TC has trouble focusing but when it finally does it produces very good IQ.

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