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Mar 12, 2018 08:02:51   #
pipehitter
 
This is my first post. Soon after my daughter was born, 18 months ago, I decided to take the leap and purchase a DSLR. I shoot mostly landscape, interiors, and aerials, but do enjoy the occasional candid shots of my family. I have a speedlight, but don't know how to use it (ha! it's amazing how reading a manual is just not a priority these days), so I rely on natural light. I try to capture the essence of my daughter's innocence in a natural state. By now she is used to having a camera in her face and often likes to "ham it up". Here are three of my favorites. Critiques/comments/technique advice always welcome.

#1 Snowglobe Magic
#1 Snowglobe Magic...

#2
#2...

#3 Strike a Pose
#3 Strike a Pose...

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Mar 12, 2018 08:04:16   #
Red Sky At Night
 
SharpShooter wrote:
Red, thanks and welcome to the Hog!!!
Hopefully you will get some pointers and ideas to get some great shots of those grandkids of yours.
The problem when starting out is that you probably don't have lighting which of course contributes greatly to the look and quality of the image.
AND ambient light is the hardest of all to use it right. It takes way more experience than using strobes because it's much harder to apply and control, not to mention it can be changing on you and sometimes FAST!!! LoL
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Red, thanks and welcome to the Hog!!! br Hopefully... (show quote)

Yes, light will be the key disadvantage and the most important aspect. Fortunately they are years away from something as import as senior pictures and by then I will have been able to add equipment and experience so that I will be able to get some better shots by then. For now, hopefully I can capture some out of the box moments that will capture their personalities and get a few keepers to smile at years from now. Thank you for starting this topic.

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Mar 12, 2018 08:08:49   #
Red Sky At Night
 
RichardTaylor wrote:
Some thoughts, and this is from experience even though I am just a hobbyst (with just one grandaughter), and an available light shooter;

#1 Get down to their level - it will make the shots more "intimate".
#2 Know your gear backward - keep in mind that if you are not looking through the viwfinder you usually can't shoot it.
Fidling with the camera is not good or playing around with menues.
Know how to quickly and consistently nail the exposure and the focus (on the eyes).
#3 Overcast days or indirect skylight is your friend (no harsh shadows or squinting).
#4 If shooting indoors windows with indirect skylight are also your friend.
#5 Be prepared to shoot at high to very high ISO values if need be and be prepared to post process your raw files to get the most out of them.
#6 Fill the frame with your subject, however shoot a little "loose" so you are not inadverantly cutting off hands or feet etc

I generally like to use fast lenses at wider apertures (to isolate the subject) and auto ISO.
I usually shoot aperture priority with some exposure compensation dialed in if need be (my current bodies have a live histogram in the viewfinder).
When shooting I keep chimping to a minimum unless the subject wants to see the image I have just shot.

For practice you may like to try shooting birds in flight!
Some thoughts, and this is from experience even th... (show quote)

Thank you for taking the time to offer these suggestions. Very helpful.

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Mar 12, 2018 08:21:15   #
berchman Loc: South Central PA
 
I have been reading about and watching YouTube videos on taking portraits/headshots and this weekend a friend of mine has volunteered to be a guinea pig for my first attempt. It's a two hour drive to his house and I will be bringing three light stands (one of them a C stand with boom), sandbags, 3 Nikon speedlights with a snoot and a grid for them, 3 Pocket Wizards, a HoneyBadger strobe with a remote controller, a StrobePro 36" deep parabolic softbox and grid, a Westcott 43" Apollo Orb, a Flashpoint 5 in One Reflector, a Westcott 5x6 collapsible background, and a Sekonic 478DR light meter. I'm jumping into the deep end of the pool. Swim or drown.

SharpShooter's first shot is slick and professional, but the bright white printing on the subject's shirt is distracting as is the spot of green on the index finger of her right hand, either an earring or an artificial nail. She is also rather expressionless so no particular personality is being captured.

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Mar 12, 2018 09:08:36   #
bengbeng Loc: Houston, Texas
 
This is my take on an almost 'out of the box portrait' :+)

I tried a couple of ways to light this and eventually used a pop up macro light disc ( can't think of a better way to describe it )

Hope it fits the theme.



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Mar 12, 2018 09:42:27   #
davefales Loc: Virginia
 
bengbeng wrote:
This is my take on an almost 'out of the box portrait' :+)

I tried a couple of ways to light this and eventually used a pop up macro light disc ( can't think of a better way to describe it )

Hope it fits the theme.


Interesting concept. A little vignetting might improve it.

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Mar 12, 2018 10:03:26   #
SpikeW Loc: Butler PA
 
In sharp shooter's top two portraits The top of the heads are cut off. I personally like them the way they are but I attended a discussion talk in Fl. some time back and they kept stressing that viewed photos missed the tip of a wing etc. So is this a point to address or not. As I am a stupid photographer is this a problem in photos in portraits ,or wildlife or even landscapes and is it acceptable in one type photo and not another.

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Mar 12, 2018 10:05:51   #
bengbeng Loc: Houston, Texas
 
davefales wrote:
Interesting concept. A little vignetting might improve it.


Thanks for the feedback

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Mar 12, 2018 10:06:49   #
berchman Loc: South Central PA
 
SpikeW wrote:
In sharp shooter's top two portraits The top of the heads are cut off. I personally like them the way they are but I attended a discussion talk in Fl. some time back and they kept stressing that viewed photos missed the tip of a wing etc. So is this a point to address or not. As I am a stupid photographer is this a problem in photos in portraits ,or wildlife or even landscapes and is it acceptable in one type photo and not another.


Cropping the tops of the heads directs the viewer's gaze to the face. It is definitely not a problem. Look at the portraits of one of NYC's top headshot photographers, Peter Hurley.

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Mar 12, 2018 10:28:19   #
Fotoartist Loc: Detroit, Michigan
 
This is the only Out of the box composition for portraits that I see on this thread.
bengbeng wrote:
This is my take on an almost 'out of the box portrait' :+)

I tried a couple of ways to light this and eventually used a pop up macro light disc ( can't think of a better way to describe it )

Hope it fits the theme.

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Mar 12, 2018 10:33:55   #
CO
 
berchman wrote:
Cropping the tops of the heads directs the viewer's gaze to the face. It is definitely not a problem. Look at the portraits of one of NYC's top headshot photographers, Peter Hurley.


Agree. Cropping at the top of the head is fine. Never crop at joints or parts of hands.

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Mar 12, 2018 10:35:13   #
Fotoartist Loc: Detroit, Michigan
 
Cropping the tops of heads off has been ubiquitous in the culture since the TV news shows have been adapted to the modern TV screen format.
berchman wrote:
Cropping the tops of the heads directs the viewer's gaze to the face. It is definitely not a problem. Look at the portraits of one of NYC's top headshot photographers, Peter Hurley.

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Mar 12, 2018 10:47:19   #
CPR Loc: Nature Coast of Florida
 
If you're doing a portrait I think it should show something about the personality of that person. If it's a wild pose and that person is not wild then it's not a portrait but simply art.

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Mar 12, 2018 11:13:29   #
Rolk Loc: South Central PA
 
bengbeng wrote:
This is my take on an almost 'out of the box portrait' :+)

I tried a couple of ways to light this and eventually used a pop up macro light disc ( can't think of a better way to describe it )

Hope it fits the theme.


I have no idea what a "pop up macro light disc" is, and I'm sure I wouldn't be able to use it properly, but regardless, your portrait is fantastic! Love, love, love it!!


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Mar 12, 2018 11:25:01   #
bengbeng Loc: Houston, Texas
 
Rolk wrote:
I have no idea what a "pop up macro light disc" is, and I'm sure I wouldn't be able to use it properly, but regardless, your portrait is fantastic! Love, love, love it!!



Thank you so much , really !!

So this is the pop up thingy. Camera lens pokes through and shoe mount flash inside. About $20 or $30 I think. Bit of fun





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