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Feb 13, 2018 09:12:05   #
Robertven Loc: Fort Worth
 
TriX wrote:
Does any other member use a free computer asset inventory tool that they can recommend to Susan? The tool that I use professionally is FAR too expensive. Lacking that, as I mentioned, go to “start”, then “control panel”, then “system” to get the basics. Hopefully, even though you don’t have the original configuration, perhaps you have the various documentation on the motherboard, graphic card, etc. which will give you manufacturer and model number. Feel free to PM me with details if you like.


I use Belarc Advisor. It's free and tells you everything about the components in your computer very detailed. https://www.belarc.com/products_belarc_advisor

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Feb 13, 2018 09:13:37   #
art pear Loc: North Dakota
 
If you shoot raw make sure it has 12 gig of ram at least. Lenovo is what I have at home and work for a pc and my personal laptop. All three have been solid for about 4 years so far. My pc at home has 8 gig of ram and is fine with my D7000 raw files, but doesn't like the D800 raw files. It tends to lag a bit.

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Feb 13, 2018 09:33:50   #
DK Loc: SD
 
jaduff wrote:
Agree with the iMac suggestions above. I’ve been an Apple fan since my first Mac Plus in 1986. Developed globally distributed software on a Mac ii CI in the early 90s for a major financial institution.

Have had the 27” iMac since 2010 and love the screen real estate even without Retina. My iPad Air meets my portability needs.

The kids (adults really!) all have MBPs and love them if you really need a laptop. Admittedly pricier than the Windows alternative but they last forever.

Best of luck!
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I absolutely agree. I've always used Mac and travel with the Mac Book Air which is a full computer, but compact. My Macs last way longer than my friend's PCs. Only had one out of five crash. Still using three of them. The first one became too outdated, but I can still look up stuff on it.

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Feb 13, 2018 10:19:44   #
AlfredU Loc: Mooresville, NC
 
rmalarz wrote:
27" iMac.
--Bob


As usual, I agree with Bob.

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Feb 13, 2018 10:47:27   #
TriX Loc: Raleigh, NC
 
Robertven wrote:
I use Belarc Advisor. It's free and tells you everything about the components in your computer very detailed. https://www.belarc.com/products_belarc_advisor


Thanks - much appreciated. I was leery of recommending one without an endorsement from an actual user.

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Feb 13, 2018 10:51:50   #
John_F Loc: Minneapolis, MN
 
There are quite a few other venues where Mac people gab with other Mac people and the same with PC and Windows people. I would suggest you find them and see what is being gripped and hyped about. One of my gripes about Apple is the elimination of the optical drive (for CDs and DVDs, reading & burning), restrictions on ports, USB, Firewire, Lightening. Apple has essentialy converted its laptop to a table top. Plus, Apple has spoiled iTunes & iPhotos (now Photos), like hiding stuff in folders you can not see. Another point is that older Macs (PCs too?) are of 32 bit architecture and the new stuff coming out is 64 bit architecture, so you have to buy new software. Apple stores carry little so you are stuck with doing OtherWorldComputing.

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Feb 13, 2018 10:59:57   #
timkramer Loc: PA
 
art pear wrote:
If you shoot raw make sure it has 12 gig of ram at least. Lenovo is what I have at home and work for a pc and my personal laptop. All three have been solid for about 4 years so far. My pc at home has 8 gig of ram and is fine with my D7000 raw files, but doesn't like the D800 raw files. It tends to lag a bit.


I shoot in RAW+JPEG mode so thanks for the tip on the D800 raw files. I have a D700 so am assuming lag time would be similar?

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Feb 13, 2018 11:04:12   #
timkramer Loc: PA
 
Really great comments and recommendations out here. I do appreciate the time you all have taken. Looks like the Mac vs. PC battle is still alive and well. That being said, I'm still no closer to a decision yet :) But hey, lots of things to research out there.

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Feb 13, 2018 11:25:18   #
mikeglaw
 
If you can replace your hdd with an ssd, at least 512gb (cost about $130 on Amazon) you can add about a 5x speed improvement. Also, if you can double your memory tha may help.

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Feb 13, 2018 11:50:05   #
TheShoe Loc: Lacey, WA
 
I use a desktop for all of my PP for a couple of reasons. The first is the bang for the buck, where the laptop or tablet is always left in the dust. The second is expandability - have you ever extended the life of a laptop by upgrading components? I generally am able to maintain the performance of my desktop well beyond, years beyond, the life of that more expensive laptop. I do carry a laptop when I am traveling, but do not use it much while at home.

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Feb 13, 2018 11:58:33   #
SusanFromVermont Loc: Southwest corner of Vermont
 
timkramer wrote:
Really great comments and recommendations out here. I do appreciate the time you all have taken. Looks like the Mac vs. PC battle is still alive and well. That being said, I'm still no closer to a decision yet :) But hey, lots of things to research out there.

Just be sure you consider that with a Mac you are limited by what they offer on it. Similar idea about buying into a camera system. But at least there are 3rd party lenses for cameras - not sure there is any way to substitute on a Mac.

PC's are not limited by who makes the components. Only by compatibility between components. And even that can be overcome by replacing the source of the incompatibility.

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Feb 13, 2018 12:08:33   #
timkramer Loc: PA
 
mikeglaw wrote:
If you can replace your hdd with an ssd, at least 512gb (cost about $130 on Amazon) you can add about a 5x speed improvement. Also, if you can double your memory tha may help.


Might be able to swap the HDD with the SSD, but currently my 4GB memory is only expandable to 8 max I believe. I need to check the specs on which Envy model it is, but I think it only has 1 additional memory slot and I thought it would only reach 8GB. At the time I bought it, I figured 4 was enough and the 500MB storage was plenty. This was a long time ago in computer years though.

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Feb 13, 2018 12:18:41   #
GED Loc: North central Pa
 
SusanFromVermont wrote:
Just be sure you consider that with a Mac you are limited by what they offer on it. Similar idea about buying into a camera system. But at least there are 3rd party lenses for cameras - not sure there is any way to substitute on a Mac.

PC's are not limited by who makes the components. Only by compatibility between components. And even that can be overcome by replacing the source of the incompatibility.


To add to Susan's comment, Apple has also decided to remove connections on their laptops which are needed on a professional machine. It's all well and good to incorporate the newest fastest technology however when someone has to travel and actually use it in many different venues they should not have to carry a case of adapters to make commonly available connections. A good design would provide for both until one is obsolete.

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Feb 13, 2018 12:51:01   #
Meganephron Loc: Fort Worth, TX
 
If money is not an issue, Apple with Retina display properly calibrated will give you brillliant displays. I have a new MacBook Pro and it is brilliant and super fast. Draw backs are USB C inputs. Virtually everything you currently use will require an adapter. No DVD for backup if you chose that method.

My final images are done on 27 inch 2011 iMac calibrated with Spyder Pro printed on Canon Pixima 9000i soon on Canon Prograf Pro 1000. If you don’t print yourself would try to find local print source that will work with you to get the output you want. Many online services will tweak your image and you may not be happy. So, try a variety of services.

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Feb 13, 2018 13:42:15   #
therwol Loc: USA
 
timkramer wrote:
I have an older HP Envy, which I purchased about 5 years back. Over time, it has served me well, but has been running like a pig and the fan seems to be doing some overtime especially when reviewing photos. I use Lightroom and feel like the action is always 1 or 2 clicks behind. I am looking at investing a new PC and wanted to get some recommendations out there from folks who absolutely love what they have.

The internal debate I have been having is pretty standard...laptop vs. desktop, PC vs. Mac, cost vs. not caring, etc. Anyway, I have been gravitating towards the all in ones I have seen out there based on price and for the ability to double as a TV in my office. However, I have a 24" monitor that I use for work that I also connect my personal lap to when I am viewing/editing pictures. Obviously the portability comes into play for the laptop, but I have my iPad if I really needed something portable with me.
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Which operating system are you using now? I assume it's Windows 7 64 bit. If it's 32 bit, then I would definitely not keep the machine. Adding more RAM would do no good. Have you ever reinstalled the operating system? Windows runs slower and slower over time because of accumulated stuff that you may not be aware of. If the fan is going at high speed all of the time, have you looked at the heat sink and fins to see if you have a big dust ball inside?

Just some thoughts. If you replace the machine, you will get more bang for your buck with a desktop versus a laptop. All-in-ones are attractive but often use laptop processors that don't run as fast as desktop processors, and there is no room for expansion.

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