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Feb 12, 2018 10:02:20   #
Chris T Loc: from England across the pond to New England
 
camerapapi wrote:
The subject seems to me was stationary. Even so I tend to shoot continuous firing but keep AF-S as my main focus modality with the center sensor selected. This has worked for me.
We all know that the aperture in use is important because even at great magnifications we always have the advantage of some depth of field. A high ISO setting is a must to allow a high shutter speed in conditions like this when it is cloudy and windy.
The exposure was off, I do not believe I have to comment on that. The first shot is easily 1.5 stop underexposure. The others are also underexpose. Editing programs can improve on that exposure using curves and some sharpening to improve on the quality of the photograph. I tend to use selective sharpening also when in need although I am not aggressive using it.
I used the third shot to do what I would have done in post with my image. I used Photoshop and I hope the gentleman who is the original poster will not mind my intrusion. I am only trying to help.
I am sure Mr. Perry will be the first one to tell you that most AF problems are operator's problems. When I am using AF with lenses that have IS or VR, I wait a second after I achieve focus to snap the shot. That gives the IS or VR a chance to stabilize the image. That is what I have done for years and it seems to work very well for me. Obviously, I am talking about stationary subjects.
You have gotten excellent advise for your inquires from other members so I believe that using those advises at your next shooting should improve on your technique...and make sure the histogram in camera shows a good exposure.
The subject seems to me was stationary. Even so I ... (show quote)


You made some excellent improvements, there, William ....

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Feb 12, 2018 10:02:48   #
Feiertag Loc: British Columbia, Canada
 
Try "Live View" and zoom in, the next time. I guarantee you will have better results.

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Feb 12, 2018 10:25:14   #
RRS Loc: Not sure
 
jarneyd wrote:
I did use single point AF and I would have focused on the eyes had the grass not been waving around in front of him and had he kept looking my way.His head was constantly spinning from side to side and I tried to grab my shots while he was looking. If I get a chance and can find him again I will try the f8-11 and a little better exposure and in the 500-550 range. I don't know photoshop so I won't be trying anything with that. Thanks to all of you for your help on this.


You say you don't know Photoshop, do you know Fine Tune? Even using single spot focus on the third image I can see where it would have been difficult to focus on the eye due to the grasses. In cases like that I have reverted to focusing on the pattern on the shoulder or chest and reduced the aperture to increase the DOF. Gene is right, don't try and get any closer as you could stress the owl. Snowy owls are all different, some are comfortable with people at 50 yards and others will fly once you hit about 100 yards. As to Photoshop, it's not all that bad, you'll never use all of it but there are several easy procedures that you can master that will make a world of difference. Your shots are pretty good and will be better when you make the small changes to your exposure and you see what a difference some PP has done. Good luck with the snowy owls as they won't be around much longer this season.

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Feb 12, 2018 10:32:21   #
ricosha Loc: Phoenix, Arizona
 
jarneyd wrote:
I did use single point AF and I would have focused on the eyes had the grass not been waving around in front of him and had he kept looking my way.His head was constantly spinning from side to side and I tried to grab my shots while he was looking. If I get a chance and can find him again I will try the f8-11 and a little better exposure and in the 500-550 range. I don't know photoshop so I won't be trying anything with that. Thanks to all of you for your help on this.



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Feb 12, 2018 10:39:14   #
bigwolf40 Loc: Effort, Pa.
 
jarneyd wrote:
I was able to find a snow owl to shoot yesterday and he was pretty sedentary even with folks coming and going to get his Photo. I used my D7100 with a Sigma 150-600 on a monopod stabilazation active because of the high winds, with the Iso up a bit to keep the Shutter speed up and because of the grass blowing right in front of his face, I used his front shoulder as my focus point. It just doesn't seem as sharp as it should be. I also shot with my D600, Nikon 80-200, 2.8 with a 2x converter and no stabilazition and had about the same result. Then I tried with the 600 and the Sigma and basically got the same result. I used his shoulder for my focus point in each photo. It was late afternoon and overcast. Am I expecting to much or is there something I could try for a better result?
Thanks for your informed replies.
I was able to find a snow owl to shoot yesterday a... (show quote)


A little PP might have helped....Rich

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Feb 12, 2018 10:43:55   #
jarneyd Loc: New England
 
Thanks for all the help on this. The Photoshopped versions certainly look better than the original. The reason I focused on his shoulder was because there was contrast between the brown and white and probably only an inch or two at most from his eye, I figured DOF would take care of that, guess I was wrong. I used single point focus on all shots with both cameras. In most shots he did not have his eyes wide open to give me a good target to focus on and he was rotating his head constantly, his shoulder stayed put. I had a tripod with me, but feared that if I went and got it he would be gone before I got back. I also took some shots in manual focus with the same results. I will go back and try to find him with all of your suggestions in hand to try, if he gives me the time.

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Feb 12, 2018 10:46:32   #
zlatanlex24 Loc: New York
 
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Feb 12, 2018 10:46:34   #
jarneyd Loc: New England
 
I have not used Photoshop,or any other post processing, guess its time to learn.

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Feb 12, 2018 10:52:58   #
Chris T Loc: from England across the pond to New England
 
jarneyd wrote:
I have not used Photoshop,or any other post processing, guess its time to learn.


I guess, D .... OR - any other Photo Editor ... some are free for the download ... Gimp, Darktable, Faststone, et al .....

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Feb 12, 2018 11:01:33   #
sergio
 
I believe the grass makes it the way you show and not the lens, teleconverter and the like.

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Feb 12, 2018 11:01:44   #
camerapapi Loc: Miami, Fl.
 
"You made some excellent improvements, there, William ...."

I used a Curves Adjustment and some Sharpening, that was all.

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Feb 12, 2018 11:25:16   #
TheShoe Loc: Lacey, WA
 
Doesn't stabilization work for camera movement and not subject motion. Any camera I have had that has in camera (4 of them), as opposed to in lens (0), stabilization says to disable stabilization if the camera is supported. That would seem to me to suggest faster shutter or higher ISO for windy conditions. And I definitely think that the eyes would have been a better choice for the focus point.

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Feb 12, 2018 11:43:15   #
Chris T Loc: from England across the pond to New England
 
camerapapi wrote:
"You made some excellent improvements, there, William ...."

I used a Curves Adjustment and some Sharpening, that was all.


Oh, is THAT all, William?

Still ... it did the trick, didn't it?


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Feb 12, 2018 11:43:51   #
Nikon1201
 
At that distance I would use a tripod , possible shutter release and single point focus on the owls eyes

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Feb 12, 2018 11:45:01   #
jeep_daddy Loc: Prescott AZ
 
jarneyd wrote:
I was able to find a snow owl to shoot yesterday and he was pretty sedentary even with folks coming and going to get his Photo. I used my D7100 with a Sigma 150-600 on a monopod stabilazation active because of the high winds, with the Iso up a bit to keep the Shutter speed up and because of the grass blowing right in front of his face, I used his front shoulder as my focus point. It just doesn't seem as sharp as it should be. I also shot with my D600, Nikon 80-200, 2.8 with a 2x converter and no stabilazition and had about the same result. Then I tried with the 600 and the Sigma and basically got the same result. I used his shoulder for my focus point in each photo. It was late afternoon and overcast. Am I expecting to much or is there something I could try for a better result?
Thanks for your informed replies.
I was able to find a snow owl to shoot yesterday a... (show quote)


First off, you aren't going to get the sharpest images with a Sigma lens. They will not compare to a Nikon 600mm prime. Second, if you shoot raw, you need to sharpen your images. This will help a lot with a lens that isn't the sharpest. Third, why were you at f/18 and such a high ISO? You could have opened up to f/8 and lowered your ISO. Less noise means a sharper image. Last, it looks like a pretty dull day. You'll never get the greatest images when the light isn't up to par. You can get ok images, but not the best. I think you got the best you could get in the lighting conditions and the equipment you have except that you could have dropped the ISO for a slightly better result.

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