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Dec 12, 2017 19:52:09   #
rehess Loc: South Bend, Indiana, USA
 
Back in 1971, after I'd had a 35mm camera for about two years, I had a long-remembered experience. I was touristing the Southwest,taking {for me} lots of pictures, when one morning the shot counter on my camera reached 27 ... on a 24 exposure roll. My first thought was "It's nice that they gave me some extra film", follow by "Oh NO!!!". Yes, it turned out that the film had not been caught up on the take-up reel, and all the pictures I'd taken on that roll actually weren't. Ever after then, I would pull the film taut as I loaded it, and then watch the rewind crank to make sure it was turning as I advanced the film.

This past Friday, forty-six years and some days after that experience, I was out shooting with the Pentax Super Program I had originally purchased in 1984. "Why?" my wife asked. "Well, just because I like visiting the good old days on occasion."

Except this wasn't a good old day, as I discovered as I passed exposure 27 on a 24 exposure roll. So, I rewound the film, and took it to my local camera store to be developed. Today I picked up my film - completely blank!! I had forgotten my lesson of forty-six years ago! This time, since those pictures were {not}taken just a few miles from home, I can go back to those places, but even so it is frustrating to make that same mistake twice in one lifetime,

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Dec 12, 2017 20:09:31   #
LoneRangeFinder Loc: Left field
 
I did a similar thing: I had several Pentaxes stolen just before an 8 week trip to Europe. I purchased a Nikon in Seattle on my way to Amsterdam. The take up reel spooled differently, and my first roll (fjords in Norway) on a trip over the mountains. Same thing. Nada. I developed the same routine as you: tighten the spool and then advance until you see the reel take at least one turn. Forget trying to get 37. Make sure you get 36.

So I feel your pain

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Dec 12, 2017 20:22:59   #
DeanS Loc: Capital City area of North Carolina
 
On a business trip to San Antonio several years ago, my consultant and I had spare time one afternoon so we headed out on the Mission Trail for a few hours. At one stop at a curio shop I noticed an older lady looking at her camera. I spoke to her and asked if she was experiencing a prob. She said she wasn’t sure, that she had shot a lot of pix, and still must have many shots left. I checked the shutter count and it was off the chart. I took it into the men’s room, turned off the lights, opened the back, and sure enough, film not threaded onto take-up reel. Heartbreaking to deliver the bad news.

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Dec 12, 2017 20:30:13   #
wmurnahan Loc: Bloomington IN
 
Add me to the list, only takes once to learn the rewind trick. My second camera was an FTb and it had an load system that always caught the film, you just laid the film across the back and closed it, I still rewound it, never trusted technology and old habits are hard to change.

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Dec 12, 2017 20:35:36   #
ELNikkor
 
Happened to me once, early on thought that if the counter was counting, the film was running. Got a never-to-be-repeated shot of my older brother in the winter snows with a red beard and black hair, holding by the tail the only fox he had ever taken with his shotgun. His red beard matched the fox pelt. The photo is frozen in my memory, but it, alas, never made it onto film!

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Dec 12, 2017 20:59:07   #
BassmanBruce Loc: Middle of the Mitten
 
Don't kick yourself to hard, 46 yrs between screwups isn't a really bad record though I do feel your pain on the lost shots. Been there done that, I doubt anyone who shot 35mm hasn't.

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Dec 12, 2017 21:00:11   #
cameraf4 Loc: Delaware
 
rehess, I'm with you, buddy. While on Kauai on my 25th anniversary I was taking shots at Waimea Canyon when I reached the end of the roll. As I was rewinding, I noticed that a beautiful rainbow had popped-up in the canyon. My fumble-fingers failed me as I "loaded" a new roll of film and started capturing what I expected to be the best shots of the trip. It wasn't until the next day that I discovered that the take-up reel hadn't "taken up". I don't miss those days at all. Shout-out for digital!

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Dec 12, 2017 21:05:27   #
Wingpilot Loc: Wasilla. Ak
 
I got married when I was in the Army helicopter training program back in 1968. My roommate at the time claimed to be a photographer of some decent ability and experience, and volunteered to take the wedding pictures. I gladly handed him my Pentax Spotmatic and off we went to the wedding. Rene took lots of pictures and then he asked me where I got a roll of film with more than 36 exposures!! Oh Noooo!! I trusted him to take care of the details and totally forgot to make sure the camera was loaded. So other than a couple old Polaroid shots someone took, we have no wedding photos. Lesson learned— only trust yourself, if you dare. This coming summer is our 50th anniversary, and I will make sure the camera is loaded. I believe I can trust my grandson. He’s pretty professional.

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Dec 12, 2017 21:20:38   #
lamiaceae Loc: San Luis Obispo County, CA
 
rehess wrote:
Back in 1971, after I'd had a 35mm camera for about two years, I had a long-remembered experience. I was touristing the Southwest,taking {for me} lots of pictures, when one morning the shot counter on my camera reached 27 ... on a 24 exposure roll. My first thought was "It's nice that they gave me some extra film", follow by "Oh NO!!!". Yes, it turned out that the film had not been caught up on the take-up reel, and all the pictures I'd taken on that roll actually weren't. Ever after then, I would pull the film taut as I loaded it, and then watch the rewind crank to make sure it was turning as I advanced the film.

This past Friday, forty-six years and some days after that experience, I was out shooting with the Pentax Super Program I had originally purchased in 1984. "Why?" my wife asked. "Well, just because I like visiting the good old days on occasion."

Except this wasn't a good old day, as I discovered as I passed exposure 27 on a 24 exposure roll. So, I rewound the film, and took it to my local camera store to be developed. Today I picked up my film - completely blank!! I had forgotten my lesson of forty-six years ago! This time, since those pictures were {not}taken just a few miles from home, I can go back to those places, but even so it is frustrating to make that same mistake twice in one lifetime,
Back in 1971, after I'd had a 35mm camera for abou... (show quote)


Sorry to hear that. Never had it happen but I can see how it easily can happen. I'm careful to avoid it. As I recall, the take up mechanism is different on Pentax K cameras from Pentax M cameras. Never had a Pentax A camera (like your Super Program). I own or have owned a Pentax Spotmatic, KM, K2 DMD, K1000SE, K1000(trashy Hoya Chinese copy), K1000 (authentic Asahi Pentax), ME, ME Super, MX. I found the M-series too small for my hands.

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Dec 12, 2017 21:39:16   #
lamiaceae Loc: San Luis Obispo County, CA
 
I've had the back of a vintage range-finder open up on me.

I once went past the count on a 120 Format roll in a (bought used) Pentax 6x7 camera. The film spooled fine but the film advance had broken. The film was OK.

Same Pentax 6x7 after repairs, the shutter curtain broke loose, jamming the shutter box and film transport. Film was not saveable. I sold the Lenses and Meter Prism Finder, gave away the dead body free and made a profit. I must have gotten the one lemon Asahi Pentax ever made.

A good friend of mine made a really funny error. After shooting 120 film in a Rolleichord for a class. When he went to process his film he found when he turned the dark room lights back on that he had spooled the paper backing onto the metal reel and had it in the can with the film now on the floor with the lights on it. I walked into the room, saw it and said "why is your film on the floor?"

I also remember someone using a view camera and loading the film holder wrong so that when they pulled the slide out the sheet of film dropped inside of the camera. In fact may be I did that once, since at one time I had a job to take 10,000 8x10" film images of art work. Many things went wrong there over a 3 year period.

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Dec 12, 2017 22:24:39   #
ejones0310 Loc: Tulsa, OK
 
rehess wrote:
Back in 1971, after I'd had a 35mm camera for about two years, I had a long-remembered experience. I was touristing the Southwest,taking {for me} lots of pictures, when one morning the shot counter on my camera reached 27 ... on a 24 exposure roll. My first thought was "It's nice that they gave me some extra film", follow by "Oh NO!!!". Yes, it turned out that the film had not been caught up on the take-up reel, and all the pictures I'd taken on that roll actually weren't. Ever after then, I would pull the film taut as I loaded it, and then watch the rewind crank to make sure it was turning as I advanced the film.

This past Friday, forty-six years and some days after that experience, I was out shooting with the Pentax Super Program I had originally purchased in 1984. "Why?" my wife asked. "Well, just because I like visiting the good old days on occasion."

Except this wasn't a good old day, as I discovered as I passed exposure 27 on a 24 exposure roll. So, I rewound the film, and took it to my local camera store to be developed. Today I picked up my film - completely blank!! I had forgotten my lesson of forty-six years ago! This time, since those pictures were {not}taken just a few miles from home, I can go back to those places, but even so it is frustrating to make that same mistake twice in one lifetime,
Back in 1971, after I'd had a 35mm camera for abou... (show quote)


I am embarrassed to admit I did a similar thing in 1970. My wife and I had just married and I had two 35mm cameras loaded with 36 exposures each. Toward the end if the first day I realized I was past 36 on both camera bodies and had a really bad feeling about it. Come to find out, I had unloaded them to check them out and brush out any dust and film chips. Then forgot to reload them.

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Dec 12, 2017 22:27:51   #
rook2c4 Loc: Philadelphia, PA USA
 
Unless the camera's rewind knob/crank is really stiff, you should be able to tell simply by the resistance force if you are rewinding film or not.

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Dec 12, 2017 23:25:03   #
jaymatt Loc: Alexandria, Indiana
 
Been there & done that--I imagine everyone has, but only some will admit it.

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Dec 13, 2017 06:08:25   #
LarryFitz Loc: Beacon NY
 
Almost same thing with digital. Set the exposure compensation to -5 so that I could get nice pictures of holiday lights on the house. Two days later went on a short hike. Half way I checked the LCD. The twelve images were black. I have told myself to always check the first two pictures of the day, but sometime I forget. I was able to say adjust in post processing the black images enough to get a visible image.

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Dec 13, 2017 06:18:08   #
jerryc41 Loc: Catskill Mts of NY
 
rehess wrote:
Back in 1971, after I'd had a 35mm camera for about two years, I had a long-remembered experience. I was touristing the Southwest,taking {for me} lots of pictures, when one morning the shot counter on my camera reached 27 ... on a 24 exposure roll. My first thought was "It's nice that they gave me some extra film", follow by "Oh NO!!!". Yes, it turned out that the film had not been caught up on the take-up reel, and all the pictures I'd taken on that roll actually weren't. Ever after then, I would pull the film taut as I loaded it, and then watch the rewind crank to make sure it was turning as I advanced the film.

This past Friday, forty-six years and some days after that experience, I was out shooting with the Pentax Super Program I had originally purchased in 1984. "Why?" my wife asked. "Well, just because I like visiting the good old days on occasion."

Except this wasn't a good old day, as I discovered as I passed exposure 27 on a 24 exposure roll. So, I rewound the film, and took it to my local camera store to be developed. Today I picked up my film - completely blank!! I had forgotten my lesson of forty-six years ago! This time, since those pictures were {not}taken just a few miles from home, I can go back to those places, but even so it is frustrating to make that same mistake twice in one lifetime,
Back in 1971, after I'd had a 35mm camera for abou... (show quote)


Funny! The same thing happened to my father-in-law on the day of our wedding. Fortunately, he wasn't the only one taking pictures.

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