Best Drones
Dec 10, 2017 10:36:36 #
Want a drone? Take a look here. Keep in mind that DJI drones have been banned by many organizations and even countries for concerns over spying my China. China said it would no longer have the drones send data back to them. Is that good enough for you?
https://www.dpreview.com/reviews/2017-buying-guide-best-consumer-drones
https://www.dpreview.com/reviews/2017-buying-guide-best-consumer-drones
Dec 10, 2017 11:00:39 #
Jerry,
I think you may be causing me to do some reading today. I want to find out if the feed from DJI to China is a real thing or an internet rumor/legend.
If Google Earth is not sufficient for the Chinese, I guess they deserve feeds from a million or so drones.
It is true that I am hoping for a DJI Magix Pro to be under the tree. As a matter of fact, there is a box about that size as I write!!
I think you may be causing me to do some reading today. I want to find out if the feed from DJI to China is a real thing or an internet rumor/legend.
If Google Earth is not sufficient for the Chinese, I guess they deserve feeds from a million or so drones.
It is true that I am hoping for a DJI Magix Pro to be under the tree. As a matter of fact, there is a box about that size as I write!!
Dec 10, 2017 11:06:34 #
Interesting, I had heard rumors about the China connection but wasn't sure. I have a P3P and love it. I won't quit using it as China has access, and so much more, to what I record anyway. To much fun and nice video
Dec 10, 2017 11:46:20 #
Easier than I thought. Google can find anything!
In August was a document from US Customs and Immigration Enforcement (Homeland Security) that stirred up the issue. Apparently, the concern is not consumer use of the small DJI drones. The issue is where government agencies and large companies are using commercial models for mapping, surveying and security. A worst case might be where a contractor building a military project is using a drone for detailed security and documentation of the project.
https://info.publicintelligence.net/ICE-DJI-China.pdf
In August was a document from US Customs and Immigration Enforcement (Homeland Security) that stirred up the issue. Apparently, the concern is not consumer use of the small DJI drones. The issue is where government agencies and large companies are using commercial models for mapping, surveying and security. A worst case might be where a contractor building a military project is using a drone for detailed security and documentation of the project.
https://info.publicintelligence.net/ICE-DJI-China.pdf
Dec 10, 2017 11:55:08 #
In November Forbes provided an article suggesting that there may be some suspicions about the CIE memo and that DJI is trying to explain the inaccuracies and improbability of the claims in the memo. It also states that DJI's US attorneys can't get Homeland Security to respond.
"the allegations in the bulletin are so profoundly wrong as a factual matter that ICE should consider withdrawing it, or at least correcting its unsupportable assertions"
https://www.forbes.com/sites/thomasbrewster/2017/11/29/us-fear-dji-drones-hand-data-to-china-falsehoods/2/#7a54d8563c47
"the allegations in the bulletin are so profoundly wrong as a factual matter that ICE should consider withdrawing it, or at least correcting its unsupportable assertions"
https://www.forbes.com/sites/thomasbrewster/2017/11/29/us-fear-dji-drones-hand-data-to-china-falsehoods/2/#7a54d8563c47
Dec 10, 2017 12:00:10 #
Also in November the NY Times wrote a similar article. It emphasized "The I.C.E. memo focused on the drones used by companies and institutions, not the drones flown by hobbyists in the United States ..."
https://www.nytimes.com/2017/11/29/technology/dji-china-data-drones.html?_r=0
https://www.nytimes.com/2017/11/29/technology/dji-china-data-drones.html?_r=0
Dec 10, 2017 12:04:55 #
PetaPixel may be more closely aimed at hobby photographers. It provides the same information. It does add that, "DJI responded less than 2 months later by launching a Local Data privacy mode that allows drones to fly completely offline."
https://petapixel.com/2017/11/30/us-says-dji-camera-drones-spying-china-dji-says-claim-insane/
https://petapixel.com/2017/11/30/us-says-dji-camera-drones-spying-china-dji-says-claim-insane/
Dec 10, 2017 12:11:00 #
PetaPixel describes how the privacy mode works. "What the mode does is stop all internet traffic to and from the DJI Pilot app."
https://petapixel.com/2017/10/03/dji-launches-privacy-mode-flying-drones-offline/
https://petapixel.com/2017/10/03/dji-launches-privacy-mode-flying-drones-offline/
Dec 10, 2017 12:14:09 #
I wonder how its going with Russian Kaspersky virus software on 400 million computers? The Russians probably know more about the USA than the Chinese!
Dec 10, 2017 12:17:24 #
Is it just me or do others think that the whole China spying with drones thing is silly.
Not the possibility that they are doing it but the idea that they would get anything useful from doing it.
Drones are not allowed to fly over anything even remotely sensitive like airports, military bases, etc.
What could they get that could not be found on Google maps and street view?
Not the possibility that they are doing it but the idea that they would get anything useful from doing it.
Drones are not allowed to fly over anything even remotely sensitive like airports, military bases, etc.
What could they get that could not be found on Google maps and street view?
Dec 10, 2017 12:22:10 #
"Is it just me or do others think that the whole China spying with drones thing is silly."
It is silly for the consumer drones like the DJI Mavic Pro that I want. There is nothing I would take videos of that would be of use to China. The concept is less silly after I read the articles because the commercial drones that are only a few thousand more than the consumer drones can be set up to do more serious work.
The US Army was buying DJI drones for something. They can fly over the important stuff!
It is silly for the consumer drones like the DJI Mavic Pro that I want. There is nothing I would take videos of that would be of use to China. The concept is less silly after I read the articles because the commercial drones that are only a few thousand more than the consumer drones can be set up to do more serious work.
The US Army was buying DJI drones for something. They can fly over the important stuff!
Dec 10, 2017 12:59:35 #
It is "only" $800 for my dream drone!
https://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/1285011-REG/dji_cp_pt_000500_mavic_pro.html
https://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/1285011-REG/dji_cp_pt_000500_mavic_pro.html
Dec 11, 2017 16:10:53 #
bsprague wrote:
It is "only" $800 for my dream drone!
https://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/1285011-REG/dji_cp_pt_000500_mavic_pro.html
https://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/1285011-REG/dji_cp_pt_000500_mavic_pro.html
Hope your dream comes true. I love mine.
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