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Dec 6, 2017 09:28:50   #
jwn Loc: SOUTHEAST GEORGIA USA
 
Canon supplied DPP-4 has corrections in the edit section. Another reason to use mfg supplied software to convert from raw.

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Dec 6, 2017 09:41:53   #
williejoha
 
It must be a slow day. That's what happens in winter when people are locked up for to long.
WJH

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Dec 6, 2017 10:03:33   #
dsmeltz Loc: Philadelphia
 
sodapop wrote:
Bingo. You cannot post process an unprocessed raw file. You process a raw file in ACR or whatever.


Of course the RAW file was processed when it was created. The camera used information captured by the sensor to create the RAW file. Unless you believe in magic, the camera used some sort of method (read process) to create that file. In fact the act of the sensor gathering light received through the lens that has been set to focus that light on the surface of the sensor IS A PROCESS. Things done after that are post the initial process.

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Dec 6, 2017 10:14:08   #
sodapop Loc: Bel Air, MD
 
Then picking up the camera and cleaning the lens is a process. Pushing the shutter is a process. For me, getting up in the morning is a process..and a complicated one as well. Where do you draw the process line? We are talking about processing a photo to improve it from an unprocessed raw file. Sheeeze


dsmeltz wrote:
Of course the RAW file was processed when it was created. The camera used information captured by the sensor to create the RAW file. Unless you believe in magic, the camera used some sort of method (read process) to create that file. In fact the act of the sensor gathering light received through the lens that has been set to focus that light on the surface of the sensor IS A PROCESS. Things done after that are post the initial process.

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Dec 6, 2017 10:19:36   #
dsmeltz Loc: Philadelphia
 
sodapop wrote:
Then picking up the camera and cleaning the lens is a process. Pushing the shutter is a process. For me, getting up in the morning is a process..and a complicated one as well. Where do you draw the process line? We are talking about processing a photo to improve it from an unprocessed raw file. Sheeeze


SHEEEEZZZE. You admit it was a process and yet you want to continue to pretend it was not! AND THE ISSUE IS ALREADY SETTLED. The term of art IS post-processing. If you want to find out about this issue, doing a google search on "processing" is going to provide you with way to many hits. Doing a search on post-processing will lead you somewhere because that is what it is called in the photography field. All the moaning and b**ching in the world is not going to change that. So SHHHHEEEEEEEEZZZZEEEE! Just accept the reality that it is and will be called post-processing.

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Dec 6, 2017 10:31:53   #
mcveed Loc: Kelowna, British Columbia (between trips)
 
DXO Photolab, like DXO Optics Pro 10 and 11, uses profiles created for thousands of camera/lens combinations and applies the optical correction on import. These profiles are resident on your computer and the program prompts you to download the appropriate profile if it detects a camera/lens combination that you have not used previously. In addition, you can manually correct for any distortion caused by not holding the camera level.
P.S. I believe the term "Post Processing" is used for processing that we do in our computers to distinguish it from the processing that the camera does to convert the analog data from the sensor into a digital raw file, and to apply our settings to jpeg files.

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Dec 6, 2017 10:35:45   #
russelray Loc: La Mesa CA
 
My camera processes the image. Once I get home, I process it again. Ergo, post processing.

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Dec 6, 2017 10:37:10   #
dsmeltz Loc: Philadelphia
 
mcveed wrote:
DXO Photolab, like DXO Optics Pro 10 and 11, uses profiles created for thousands of camera/lens combinations and applies the optical correction on import. These profiles are resident on your computer and the program prompts you to download the appropriate profile if it detects a camera/lens combination that you have not used previously. In addition, you can manually correct for any distortion caused by not holding the camera level.
P.S. I believe the term "Post Processing" is used for processing that we do in our computers to distinguish it from the processing that the camera does to convert the analog data from the sensor into a digital raw file, and to apply our settings to jpeg files.
DXO Photolab, like DXO Optics Pro 10 and 11, uses ... (show quote)



So, trying to get us back on topic are you!!!

Thanks.

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Dec 6, 2017 13:06:04   #
louparker Loc: Scottsdale, AZ
 
mikedent wrote:
Hello- besides Lightroom, and maybe Photoshop (I am not very familiar with its capabilities) which PP programs, if any, have built-in capability for automatic corrections for various lens-camera combinations? I checked Luminar 2018, for example, they said it uses a manual correction process with sliders. How about Affinity, DxO new-name program, PSE, or others? The included Nikon PP programs will work with Nikon lens/body combos but many of us have combinations of products. Thanks!


ACDSee Photo Studio Professional has a plethora of lenses to select for PP corrections and it automatically selects the camera used for each photo.

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Dec 6, 2017 14:13:59   #
Selene03
 
mcveed wrote:
DXO Photolab, like DXO Optics Pro 10 and 11, uses profiles created for thousands of camera/lens combinations and applies the optical correction on import. These profiles are resident on your computer and the program prompts you to download the appropriate profile if it detects a camera/lens combination that you have not used previously. In addition, you can manually correct for any distortion caused by not holding the camera level.
P.S. I believe the term "Post Processing" is used for processing that we do in our computers to distinguish it from the processing that the camera does to convert the analog data from the sensor into a digital raw file, and to apply our settings to jpeg files.
DXO Photolab, like DXO Optics Pro 10 and 11, uses ... (show quote)


Thank you for actually trying to answer the OP's question. I do have shots where I didn't hold the camera level. With a lot of effort, I can get what I want with ps and lightroom. Do you think DXO Photolab would be better? Should I try to learn how to use the Canon raw processing software? Thanks and I really don't care what we want to call it, I would like to straighten some photos that resulted from my not holding the camera level, sometimes on purpose. Thanks

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Dec 6, 2017 14:20:09   #
NoSocks Loc: quonochontaug, rhode island
 
I'm confused, which for me is a normal state of mind. Do any of these programs accomplish lens correction in the area of perspective or barrel distortion?

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Dec 6, 2017 14:27:43   #
dsmeltz Loc: Philadelphia
 
NoSocks wrote:
I'm confused, which for me is a normal state of mind. Do any of these programs accomplish lens correction in the area of perspective or barrel distortion?


Yes. Some have profiles of lenses that correct based on know issues with a particular lens. In addition there are tools to correct for distortion resulting from basic physics such as perspective distortion for non-T/S lenses.

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Dec 6, 2017 14:31:46   #
Selene03
 
What would you recommend for that kind of perspective distortion from non tilt-shift lenses?

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Dec 6, 2017 14:38:37   #
dsmeltz Loc: Philadelphia
 
Selene03 wrote:
What would you recommend for that kind of perspective distortion from non tilt-shift lenses?


Somewhere under lens correction there is a correction for Vertical Perspective. Not at my own computer right now, but you could search for it.

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Dec 6, 2017 15:23:41   #
Ednsb Loc: Santa Barbara
 
Wow , how about off topic discussion.. Hurts my head. As said On1 Raw 2018 has lens correction. They are using some "standard" database which is pretty good IF they have your lens. If not you can go to the standards site, send them a set of images based on a process they have and they MAY add your lens. Missing lens for me are ones I have had for 40 years..

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