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Nov 14, 2017 05:58:31   #
CO
 
SteveR wrote:
I'm confused!! I thought one of the reasons to go full frame was greater dynamic range. Are we being misled?? Or is DXO incorrect? How would the D500 compare to the D810?


DXO is correct. There isn't much difference in the dynamic range of the latest crop sensor and full frame sensors. The full frame camera still has a higher signal to noise ratio though. That's usually due to the increased pixel pitch which allows for larger pixels.

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Nov 14, 2017 06:16:13   #
Architect1776 Loc: In my mind
 
skornfeld wrote:
I've had a 7200 for about 2 years and think I've improved quite a bit during that time. I am an obsessed amateur and retired so I have time to shoot. I shoot mainly landscape and grandkids. Lately I've become enamored with daytime black and white landscape but think I'm somewhat restricted with the dynamic range and also the low light performance of interior grandkids photos. Usually handheld no flash since they don't pose or stay still. Would I notice a difference with the 810? I already have the nikon 24-70 and 70-200, both 2.8's so I already have fx lenses but would have to buy a new 50.
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Have you considered the built in flash you have? That is why you have it and it works great on people interior shots under mixed lighting. Better color, better action stopping of kids that allows for candids rather than posed photos etc.

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Nov 14, 2017 06:21:14   #
WessoJPEG Loc: Cincinnati, Ohio
 
skornfeld wrote:
I've had a 7200 for about 2 years and think I've improved quite a bit during that time. I am an obsessed amateur and retired so I have time to shoot. I shoot mainly landscape and grandkids. Lately I've become enamored with daytime black and white landscape but think I'm somewhat restricted with the dynamic range and also the low light performance of interior grandkids photos. Usually handheld no flash since they don't pose or stay still. Would I notice a difference with the 810? I already have the nikon 24-70 and 70-200, both 2.8's so I already have fx lenses but would have to buy a new 50.
I've had a 7200 for about 2 years and think I've i... (show quote)

Save your money, the camera you have Is good enough.

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Nov 14, 2017 06:31:38   #
Architect1776 Loc: In my mind
 
WessoJPEG wrote:
Save your money, the camera you have Is good enough.



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Nov 14, 2017 06:32:29   #
billnikon Loc: Pennsylvania/Ohio/Florida/Maui/Oregon/Vermont
 
skornfeld wrote:
I've had a 7200 for about 2 years and think I've improved quite a bit during that time. I am an obsessed amateur and retired so I have time to shoot. I shoot mainly landscape and grandkids. Lately I've become enamored with daytime black and white landscape but think I'm somewhat restricted with the dynamic range and also the low light performance of interior grandkids photos. Usually handheld no flash since they don't pose or stay still. Would I notice a difference with the 810? I already have the nikon 24-70 and 70-200, both 2.8's so I already have fx lenses but would have to buy a new 50.
I've had a 7200 for about 2 years and think I've i... (show quote)

The D850, D500, and D5 share the exceed 5 image processor for low light. The D810 has the exceed 4 image processor.

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Nov 14, 2017 07:39:05   #
Nukepr Loc: Citrus County, FL
 
skornfeld wrote:
I've had a 7200 for about 2 years and think I've improved quite a bit during that time. I am an obsessed amateur and retired so I have time to shoot. I shoot mainly landscape and grandkids. Lately I've become enamored with daytime black and white landscape but think I'm somewhat restricted with the dynamic range and also the low light performance of interior grandkids photos. Usually handheld no flash since they don't pose or stay still. Would I notice a difference with the 810? I already have the nikon 24-70 and 70-200, both 2.8's so I already have fx lenses but would have to buy a new 50.
I've had a 7200 for about 2 years and think I've i... (show quote)


I have the D7200 and love the camera, but I wanted full frame for landscapes, so earlier this year I bought a refurbished D810. I absolutely love the camera, and the low light capability is simply better. In addition to landscape shooting, I am involved in a local community theater and take photos of our productions using available light from stage lighting. I recently shot a show where the light was fairly low in some scenes and using high ISO got some really nice shots that I simply could not have taken available light with my D7200. Since you have the lenses, getting the full frame camera seems like a logical step. Best wishes and hope you continue to enjoy shooting.

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Nov 14, 2017 08:08:12   #
skornfeld
 
queencitysanta wrote:
After Christmas New Nikon sales should drive the price of the used 810's down.

That is my thought process. Already ordered Darrell Youngs book Mastering the D810. Got his book for the 7200 and thought it was excellent. This way I'll have a head start. Yes I made up my mind.

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Nov 14, 2017 08:11:35   #
ELNikkor
 
The dynamic range of the D750 is better than any of the D800 line. You didn't mention if you have the 35 mm DX 1.8, but using that indoors would boost your speed by over 2 stops with the D7200 and could save you a bundle. If you are determined to go to FX, the D750 will best meet your needs, is on a discount for Black Friday, and has that built in flash, which, if set for 1.5 stops under, can give a nice fill to those indoor shots without overpowering the ambient light.

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Nov 14, 2017 08:50:55   #
WessoJPEG Loc: Cincinnati, Ohio
 
I have pictures shot at 25000 iso with my D7200 that are great.

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Nov 14, 2017 09:44:33   #
DavidPine Loc: Fredericksburg, TX
 
The D810 is an excellent camera. The D500 is excellent as well. The D750 is Excellent and the D850 is excellent. I have my personal pecking order of use which isn't scientific but it is my preference for Nikon cameras I own. 1. D850. 2. D500. 3. D810. 4. D750. 5. D800. 6. D7100

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Nov 14, 2017 10:29:06   #
StaneeRae Loc: Lincroft, NJ USA
 
jerryc41 wrote:
Look at comparisons between the two. Immediately below is a link someone posted yesterday about upcoming Nikon sales. Get a D810 with battery grip for $1,410. https://www.bfads.net/stores/nikon/ads/black-friday/page-3

$1,410 is the savings. The sale price is listed underneath the photo ($2799.95).

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Nov 14, 2017 10:47:07   #
PhotoTime Loc: SW Ohio, USA
 
RickL wrote:
Cameta camera is all US, they will provide shutter count. Usually not an issue since shutters last into the hundreds of thousands


Cameta is excellent to work with. I bought my D5600 and D750, lenses and SB-700 AF flash from them.

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Nov 14, 2017 11:19:57   #
Wingpilot Loc: Wasilla. Ak
 
One of the advantages of a full frame format camera is that it tends to perform better in low light situations. Given equal size sensors, as with the D7200 and D750, at 24mp, the D750 will perform better in low light because the pixels are larger due to the larger physical size of the sensor. As a result, they gather more light in a given situation. As for which camera has better dynamic range, generally a full frame camera will have deeper dynamic range, but, as the DXO chart shows, that’s not necessarily so universally. My grandson started out with a Nikon D90, and took some amazing photos, but the difference in image quality was stunning when he moved to a D810. Obviously his lenses, such as the Nikon 24-70 f/2.8 and 70-200 VRii contributed to that, but I think you would do well, for what you want to do, with a D810.

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Nov 14, 2017 11:45:42   #
skornfeld
 
Wingpilot wrote:
One of the advantages of a full frame format camera is that it tends to perform better in low light situations. Given equal size sensors, as with the D7200 and D750, at 24mp, the D750 will perform better in low light because the pixels are larger due to the larger physical size of the sensor. As a result, they gather more light in a given situation. As for which camera has better dynamic range, generally a full frame camera will have deeper dynamic range, but, as the DXO chart shows, that’s not necessarily so universally. My grandson started out with a Nikon D90, and took some amazing photos, but the difference in image quality was stunning when he moved to a D810. Obviously his lenses, such as the Nikon 24-70 f/2.8 and 70-200 VRii contributed to that, but I think you would do well, for what you want to do, with a D810.
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thanks - I already own the 24-70 2.8 VR ED and 70-200 2.8 vrii - I'd only need to replace the 50 1.8 DX

Just waiting for the holiday season to pass and then decide between a highly rated used or refurbished - which will depend on what's available and price difference.

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Nov 14, 2017 12:04:38   #
Wingpilot Loc: Wasilla. Ak
 
skornfeld wrote:
thanks - I already own the 24-70 2.8 VR ED and 70-200 2.8 vrii - I'd only need to replace the 50 1.8 DX

Just waiting for the holiday season to pass and then decide between a highly rated used or refurbished - which will depend on what's available and price difference.


There might be some terrific Black Friday sales, and often the closer it gets to Christmas, deals start showing up. You might not need to wait as long as you think to pick up a D810.

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