A refurbished 810 will take you a long way. Accessories are cheaper than an 850. Computer horse-power requirements are lower. The 800/810 will be a very sought after prior-generation camera just like the D700 was for many years. Plus you can take possession of one today.
The 800 was my Holy Grail and I jumped at owning one when a refurbished one came on my radar in 2015. Essentially 1/2 price of the original srp. Been happier than a puppy with 2 peters.
BlackRipleyDog wrote:
A refurbished 810 will take you a long way. Accessories are cheaper than an 850. Computer horse-power requirements are lower. The 800/810 will be a very sought after prior-generation camera just like the D700 was for many years.
The 800 was my Holy Grail and I jumped at owning one when a refurbished one came on my radar in 2015. Essentially 1/2 price of the original srp. Been happier than a puppy with 2 peters.
that's funny - think I've justified the 810 just have to convince my wife that it would be an excellent Holiday present!
Keep the d7200, bump the ISO, learn to post process the noise out and take the grand kids to Disney. Focus on the experience and less on gear.
If your focus was more on landscapes...I’d say go for the D810.
skornfeld wrote:
that's funny - think I've justified the 810 just have to convince my wife that it would be an excellent Holiday present!
My wife and I are empty-nesters and we both just buy ourselves what we would like for presents.
It is just when we confess to the other, that we preface our mea culpa with "Honey, I did a bad bad thing...."
I quickly forgave her when she bought me the Boston Whaler last year.
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I've had a 7200 for about 2 years and think I've improved quite a bit during that time. I am an obsessed amateur and retired so I have time to shoot. I shoot mainly landscape and grandkids. Lately I've become enamored with daytime black and white landscape but think I'm somewhat restricted with the dynamic range and also the low light performance of interior grandkids photos. Usually handheld no flash since they don't pose or stay still. Would I notice a difference with the 810? I already have the nikon 24-70 and 70-200, both 2.8's so I already have fx lenses but would have to buy a new 50.
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Cameta camera is all US, they will provide shutter count. Usually not an issue since shutters last into the hundreds of thousands
Part of the problem is that f2.8 is pretty a pretty slow light gatherer compared to a f1.4 or f1.8. I have the Nikon 50mm f1.8D and I'm amazed how it sucks up light compared to my f2.8's. There's a world of difference. Of course, it will restrict your dof. I must ask you, why are you against using flash? What's the problem with using a diffused bounce flash? Kids don't have to pose for flash. One thing about flash is that it stops action. You can shoot at 1/60/sec. and the flash will stop the action. However, you should be able to shoot faster than that with the proper flash and get better results as well.
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Part of the problem is that f2.8 is pretty a pretty slow light gatherer compared to a f1.4 or f1.8. I have the Nikon 50mm f1.8D and I'm amazed how it sucks up light compared to my f2.8's. There's a world of difference. Of course, it will restrict your dof. I must ask you, why are you against using flash? What's the problem with using a diffused bounce flash? Kids don't have to pose for flash. One thing about flash is that it stops action. You can shoot at 1/60/sec. and the flash will stop the action. However, you should be able to shoot faster than that with the proper flash and get better results as well.
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Have nothing against a flash and have a sb900 but not always handy. Have a 50 1.8 and works great for single kid with narrow dof. Not great when on different focal planes. I'd say they are 10% of pics and landscape is 75%, dog is 10% and the rest is misc.
skornfeld wrote:
Have nothing against a flash and have a sb900 but not always handy. Have a 50 1.8 and works great for single kid with narrow dof. Not great when on different focal planes. I'd say they are 10% of pics and landscape is 75%, dog is 10% and the rest is misc.
The pop-up flash works nicely with grand-kids. I've used the ones on both my D7000 and D800.
I just went on the DXO sensor comparison tool online and loaded the D810 and D7200. The dynamic range of these two cameras is practically identical. The gold line is the D7200 and the red line is the D810. Some people are advocating an increase in ISO. Increasing the ISO has a negative impact on dynamic range. The horizontal scale is ISO and the vertical scale is EV dynamic range. You can see that dynamic range is continuously decreasing as ISO is increasing.
The D810 does have a better signal to noise ratio (lower chart).
CO wrote:
I just went on the DXO sensor comparison tool online and loaded the D810 and D7200. The dynamic range of these two cameras is practically identical. The gold line is the D7200 and the red line is the D810. Some people are advocating an increase in ISO. Increasing the ISO has a negative impact on dynamic range. The horizontal scale is ISO and the vertical scale is EV dynamic range. You can see that dynamic range is continuously decreasing as ISO is increasing.
The D810 does have a better signal to noise ratio (lower chart).
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I'm confused!! I thought one of the reasons to go full frame was greater dynamic range. Are we being misled?? Or is DXO incorrect? How would the D500 compare to the D810?
If you want low light in a crop sensor camera, check out the D500.
After Christmas New Nikon sales should drive the price of the used 810's down.
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